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"The fear that I have is that the legitimate rage which is being expressed by our dispossessed is being captured by proto-fascist movements: Tea Party movements, Oath Keepers, militias. And the longer that liberals continue to speak in the bloodless, sterile language of policy and issues, the less credibility that they will have."

Chris Hedges, 2010

Full speech and partial transcript below the fold

This speech from over 4 years ago is becoming more and more prescient.  With the recent outbreaks of violence against women, against traditional authority and against minorities, the growing dispossessed appear to be gathering into a decentralized fascist movement that is just as pervasive, just as omnipresent as the decentralized mechanisms of power and control within the inverted totalitarian corporate state that is birthing it.

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The Poverty Initiative at Union Theological Seminary brought Chris Hedges to their Poverty Scholars Strategic Dialogues on Media and Religion



I think we have to face the fact that the poverty initiative and the civil rights movement failed; that what it did was propel the upper third of African Americans into the middle class, but one could argue that the bottom two-thirds are worse off now than they were when Dr. King was assassinated; that what we have undergone is an assault against the working class which has essentially decimated and destroyed the working class itself.

 We live in a post-industrial society. I just spent a few weeks in Camden, New Jersey writing a story for The Nation Magazine. Camden per-capita is the poorest city in the United States, also ranked the most dangerous. And what we are going to see with a kind of permanent underclass in our so-called jobless recovery that Lawrence Summers talks about is these internal colonies, as Malcolm X and later Dr. King called them, leeching outwards across the country bringing all the attendant problems with them. One of the reasons I wanted to focus on Camden was because it’s a window into what is going to affect larger and larger pockets, rural and urban, within the United States.

 There is no supermarket in Camden; there is one outside the city... There's no movie theaters; there's no hotels. There are vast sections of the city that have been utterly abandoned; 1,500 buildings, roofs caved in, over a hundred open air drug markets. Because of course when you have no possibility to enter the formal economy, you enter the informal economy. I also have a personal experience with the new peculiar system of neo-feudalism that we are visiting on the country, and that most of my family comes from the former mill towns in the state of Maine that have likewise been utterly devastated.

 I think the great failing on the part of the liberal class in the United States was its decision to continue to support the Democratic Party after 1994 with the passage of NAFTA.  NAFTA thrust a knife into the back of the American working class. And the failure on the part of people who spoke in language which purported to be concerned with the interests of the poor and the working class was that year after year they supported a party that decimated the working class. The Democrats under Clinton were as guilty as the Republicans.

 Clinton’s so-called welfare reform bill, 1996 – Why do you think they keep passing extension of unemployment benefits? Because you can’t live on $143 a month off of Welfare. The Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999, given to us courtesy of Larry Summers, which ripped down the firewalls between commercial and investment banks, allowing speculators to take over the banking system and generate the kind of financial crisis that we find ourselves in now, with the largest transference of wealth upwards in American history - it is not an exaggeration to say at this point that our political and economically elite constitutes a criminal class.

The longer that liberals continue to support a Democratic Party that collaborates in the Weimarization of the American working class, the less credibility they have, because their hypocrisy is exposed. The fear that I have is that the legitimate rage which is being expressed by our dispossessed is being captured by proto-fascist movements: Tea Party movements, Oath Keepers, militias. And the longer that liberals continue to speak in the bloodless, sterile language of policy and issues, the less credibility that they will have.

If you remember during the so-called health care reform debate, I think that many of you have read through this bill, it is essentially, it is for the for-profit health care industry what the bailout stimulus packages were for Wall Street.

You remember that there was a moment when Tea Party people made racial slurs against Jon Lewis and Barney Frank.  Richard Rorty, in his last book, the great philosopher, called Achieving our Country before he died, he wrote, for me, a very prescient. . .he saw where we were heading. . . and he wrote a very prescient paragraph when he said,  

"The anger toward the college educated, Liberal elites, who continue to talk in a language in which they cared about the working class and yet supported systems that decimated the working class will bring with it a backlash, not against Liberals, but against Liberal values, including that kind of political correctness which sought to counter the endemic sadism that exists within American society."

So that when I heard this group shout out these racial epithets, against Lewis or these slurs against Barney Frank, I remember Rorty's prediction that what will get swept aside with the rise of these frightening right-wing movements will be the attempts by liberal society to counter overt forms of homophobia, racism, sexism and that undercurrent of bigotry and intolerance will be carried like a baton by these movements that oppose us.

I have largely given up on the Liberal class in this country.  I think that the great book of our time is Dostoevsky's Notes From Underground, it is a book about defeated dreamers, Liberals, people who stood and chanted, "Yes we Can", and then were betrayed, and then they withdrew into their own private self-indulgent cells.

And as Dostoevsky foresaw, he wrote Notes From Underground in 1878, I believe, that when you have a bankrupt liberal class, as we do, you inevitably propel yourself toward a form of moral Nihilism.  To a world in which there are no moral values left.  

We live in a corporate state.  We live in what the great political philosopher Sheldon Wolin called a system of "Inverted Totalitarianism".  For those who have not seen Wolin's great book Democracy Incorporated, I encourage you to take a look at it.  

In Inverted Totalitarianism, it is not, as Wolin writes, like classical totalitarianism.  which is built around a demagogue or a charismatic leader.  In the system of Inverted Totalitarianism, the Totalitarianism is expressed in the anonymity of the Corporate State.  That you have forces that pay fealty to electoral politics and to the constitution, to patriotic symbols and iconography.  Yet, it has so corrupted the levers of power that the citizenry is, utterly, impotent within the system.  .  

And you see that, starkly illustrated in this new administration.  Whether it is the refusal to confront our permanent war economy, which is literally hollowing us out from the inside, whether it is the refusal to restore basic civil liberties, including Habeas Corpus, an end to warrantless wiretappings, the decision to give, through the FISA Reform Act, to protect the telecommunication companies that, under the Bush Administration spied on, we know of, tens of millions of Americans, that information is still, by the way being stored.  

Whether it is the continuation of our Imperial Projects in Iraq and Afghanistan, which I can tell you, after having spent seven years in the Middle East, won't work.  They are doomed to failure, number 1, but number 2, under post Nuremburg Laws, they are defined as criminal wars of aggression.  That we have no legal or moral right to debate the terms of the occupation.

And so what we have seen with the election of a new Democratic president is a codification of the assaults on domestic and international laws that was put into place by the Bush Administration.

Now, I don't need to tell people in this room that those pockets of Americans who have suffered most have been rendered utterly invisible by the corporate media.  We have about six to eight corporations that controls almost everything this country sees, watches, and hears.  And what they have done is impose a bland uniformity of opinion.

Look at the healthcare debate.  

In moral terms, in this nation it is legally permissible for a for-profit healthcare company to hold sick children hostage while their mothers and fathers bankrupt themselves trying to save their sons or daughters.  That is the moral condition.  The health care industry in this country profits on the death and suffering in the same way that the arms manufacturers and the defense industry profits from the death and suffering.

The failure on the part of our media to confront this moral abomination when 40,000 Americans died in this country last year because they could not get proper medical care.  Half of all bankruptcies in this country were caused by those families who could not afford their medical bills.  

This was never part of the debate.

We have the most inefficient and costly health care system in the industrialized world.  It doesn't work.  But the corporations, through the media, drove the discussion.  And, of course, once this healthcare bill was passed, with hundreds of millions of dollars in subsidies, for these for-profit health care industries, all of their stocks went up on Wall Street.

We have seen, once again how we, as citizens, have been undergoing what can only be called a Coup D'état in slow motion.

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  •  Wowzers- (4+ / 0-)
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    but one could argue that the bottom two-thirds are worse off now than they were when Dr. King was assassinated
    Sure, you could argue that, but you'd come across as a completely out of touch idiot who doesn't understand how bad things actually were for black people in the 40s, the 50's, the 60's. You'd have to have forgotten how common lynching was. You'd have to ignore the fact that black male life expectancy is is 71.4 years of age now, but in 1940 it was 60.1 years. In other words, you'd be twisting an awful lot of facts to suit your agenda.

    Sorry, when an essay starts with something that full on STUPID, I can't be bothered with the rest of it.

    I do not understand how educated people can take these mouthnoises seriously.

    •  One could argue. .. (10+ / 0-)

      Economically they are worse off.  Context is important.

      The most un-convincable man is the one whose paycheck depends on remaining unconvinced. -- H. L. Mencken

      by kharma on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 09:46:22 AM PDT

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      •  not to mention (4+ / 0-)
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        Silencio, corvo, jlb1972, kharma

        entirely not anything to do with the context of the diary.

        just a blatant threadjacking.

        Be the change that you want to see in the world

        by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 10:03:25 AM PDT

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        •  Your diary declared that the civil-rights movement (2+ / 0-)
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          6412093, Deep Texan

          failed.  The argument is stop the GOP by black balling Dems .
          It continues with libertarian antiObama and antidemocratic rhetoric.  These fascists have been agitated by backlash against Civil Rights since the GOP's counterrevolution, beginning with Nixon. The election of a black president threw them over the edge. The GOP forced a great deal of Clinton's bad decisions (triangulating) and obstructed Obama. Yes there is a rise in protofascists but blaming Civil Rights, liberals and democrats not the answer.

           

          •  It was a transcript (3+ / 0-)
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            from a speech given at the Union Theological Seminary

            From an invited speaker at their poverty initiative.

            they are predominately black.  If you watch the video you would see a white scholar talking about poverty to a study of predominately black scholars who invited him to talk to them about poverty.

            he knows what he is talking about.  watch the video, the audience is giving him a standing ovation.

            Be the change that you want to see in the world

            by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 11:15:01 AM PDT

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            •  sadly (4+ / 0-)
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              I understand now,

              it takes a lot of time and thought to get the message that was in the speech.  I felt that it was so thorough, so well thought out, that it needed to be shared in its original context.

              suffice it to say,

              the implosion of an economy and a well financed campaign of fascist propaganda opposed by a tepid and removed liberal elite has been THE recipe for fascism throughout modern human history.

              That is what this diary is about.

              Be the change that you want to see in the world

              by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 11:19:00 AM PDT

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              •  Actually, the "tepid and removed liberal elite" (2+ / 0-)
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                is a new phenomenon, different from the 1930s.

                The German Socialists, for instance, fought street battles against their fascist opponents; they were anything but "tepid and removed."  Just outnumbered and outgunned.

                Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                by corvo on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 11:25:32 AM PDT

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                •  It has always been the libertarian position to (0+ / 0-)

                  answer in kind. The government and both political parties are at fault. Amp up the rhetoric and hyperbole. Both sides should take up arms against the evil gummint.

                  •  only (1+ / 0-)
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                    decisive response to the structures of totalitarianism within the mechanisms of our current government structures will save our children from the perils of climate change and the growing Weimarization of the working class, the dissolution of representative democracy and the establishment of a neofeudal society in place of our current economic system.

                    Be the change that you want to see in the world

                    by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 12:51:37 PM PDT

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                •  I disagree, though it is a good point (1+ / 0-)
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                  Those protests happened well after the burning of the Reichstag, before the dissolution of the SDP and the passage of the enabling act.  

                  Even though Hitler had well published Mein Kampf and was opposed by the Weimar political party coalition, only the equivalent of the "black flag" German socialists (communists really) actually opposed him after 1933.

                  Prior to that was ineffectual working within the rules to allow the steady accumulation of power by the totalitarian forces of the National Socialist German Worker's party.

                  in the end, all of the Weimar coalition eventually joined in and voted for him.  he consolidated power and became supreme chancellor.

                  Be the change that you want to see in the world

                  by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 12:49:44 PM PDT

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    •  I will tell you what stupid is (9+ / 0-)

      looking at 1940 statistics when we are talking about what happened a generation later.

      or do you really think that Dr. King was assassinated in the 1940s?

      have you even looked at the incarceration rates?

      tell me again how things are better????  

      Be the change that you want to see in the world

      by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 09:51:39 AM PDT

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    •  And let's not forget the drastically increased (6+ / 0-)

      number of incarcerated black men, either. To focus on just one parameter--say, life expectancy--to the exclusion of all other indicators is its own brand of "full on STUPID."


      "Either way, if we surrender, it is the end of us, and of the government. They will repeat the experiment upon us ad libitum." — President Abraham Lincoln


      by vahana on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 09:53:21 AM PDT

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    •  also (4+ / 0-)
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      besides average life expectancy not being a good metric to determine quality of life.  the gains of the top 1/3 have grown so much more than the bottom 2/3 as well as female life expectancies over male life expectancies.

      Be the change that you want to see in the world

      by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 10:00:37 AM PDT

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    •  hiderated for threadjacking (1+ / 0-)
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      a complete violation of terms, using false information (1940s vs. 1960s life expectancies)  and basically disrupting the discussion.

      this comment should be removed from the thread because it is disrupting the conversation (i.e. the rightwing fascist movements growing in the U.S.)

      Be the change that you want to see in the world

      by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 10:05:08 AM PDT

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      •  Don't HR people in your own diary (4+ / 0-)
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        And if you're too sensitive to have people dispute the facts underlying your argument, you might re-think posting diaries in the first place.

        •  it isn't a dispute (2+ / 0-)
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          it is a threadjack attempt.

          he isn't even posting facts, he is distracting from the discussion about the growing violence and what is causing it.

          thanks for helping. . .

          Be the change that you want to see in the world

          by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 10:12:44 AM PDT

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          •  You must not HR somebody in your own diary. (0+ / 0-)

            That's a fundamental DKos rule, and you know it.

            And you're wrong about it being a threadjack.  I didn't read it that way.

            If anybody is threadjacking it's you yourself with your overreaction to that comment.  Chill out.

            •  where is it a "rule" (1+ / 0-)
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              show me the link.

              Be the change that you want to see in the world

              by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 11:02:12 AM PDT

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              •  You've been here 3.5 years. You must have (0+ / 0-)

                seen it.  In any event, here you have several long-time Kossacks informing you.  You really should trust that.

                As corvo implied, you run a genuine risk of getting NRd--like 32 people got a week ago--if you don't remove the HR.

                The etiquette, which I'm sure you must have seen many times, is for a diarist to say something like:  "I can't HR in my own diary, but I think this deserves to be hidden."  If it's HRable, then it will get hidden.

  •  Bingo! Truth. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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    Many times I’ve returned. Never was I the same in any of my guises. I feel inside, my times before, with no memories of each journey. My soul’s shadows haunt all the paths it has traveled.

    by Wendys Wink on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 09:53:46 AM PDT

  •  I'm not sure if it's a hard-set rule... (4+ / 0-)

    but it's bad form, at least, to HR someone in your own diary, especially when it appears to be based on a matter of disagreement.

    How about I believe in the unlucky ones?

    by BenderRodriguez on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 10:07:46 AM PDT

    •  it isn't a disagreement (2+ / 0-)
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      it is a disruption.  I am trying to preserve the conversation about the growing fascist/extremist movements in the U.S.

      he is threadjacking to prevent that discussion so I am HOPING that others will simply help to remove that thread.

      because (as this thread is now doing) it is distracting the conversation away from the topic of the diary.

      Be the change that you want to see in the world

      by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 10:10:40 AM PDT

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      •  You're asking for a world of pain (1+ / 0-)
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        by HRing someone in your own diary.  Your reading of the rules may be correct, but the rules around here are enforced arbitrarily and capriciously, as you probably know by now.  And you've been seen with too many of the wrong Kossacks.

        Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

        by corvo on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 10:39:14 AM PDT

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        •  hmmmm (1+ / 0-)
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          this is so petty, I can't believe I actually spent time talking about any of this.

          what I am seeing here is message control by a small group if people.

          it is just sad.  

          this kind of activity is the problem, not the solution.

          I will remove the HR because, obviously, there is no actual discussion now.

          the thread jack worked.

          congratulations.  I hope it serves you well.

          Be the change that you want to see in the world

          by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 11:01:18 AM PDT

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          •  I'm also sorry about what happened (2+ / 0-)
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            to your diary.  I'd just like for you to be around to write more like it.

            Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

            by corvo on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 11:04:28 AM PDT

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        •  what exactly do you mean by (0+ / 0-)
          And you've been seen with too many of the wrong Kossacks
          ???

          are you an administrator?  do you keep track of people on this site?

          Be the change that you want to see in the world

          by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 11:03:23 AM PDT

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          •  What I meant is that people like me (0+ / 0-)

            have recced comments and diaries of yours.

            That's not going to make you look good in the eyes of the admins.

            Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

            by corvo on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 11:05:22 AM PDT

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            •  I notice that (0+ / 0-)

              you didn't rec this diary. . .so  what exactly are you talking about?

              Be the change that you want to see in the world

              by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 11:12:06 AM PDT

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              •  I've recced several of your comments, (0+ / 0-)

                but am now rethinking that.

                Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                by corvo on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 11:14:26 AM PDT

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                •  what I meant was (0+ / 0-)

                  "that's not going to make you look good in the eyes of the administrators"

                  does that mean that you are somehow blacklisted?

                  are you a bad actor? should I be worried about talking with you on DKos???

                  cause you smell fine by me. . .

                  Be the change that you want to see in the world

                  by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 11:25:01 AM PDT

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                  •  You know, for someone claiming to be interested (0+ / 0-)

                    in discussing issues, you've spent a remarkable amount of bandwidth lashing out indiscriminately in your diary.

                    I think I'm done here.

                    Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                    by corvo on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 11:26:57 AM PDT

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                    •  hmmm (0+ / 0-)

                      good point,

                      sure wish you wanted to talk about substance and not this crap.

                      I look forward to having a real conversation with you sometime.  thanks for looking out for me tho'

                      Be the change that you want to see in the world

                      by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 11:43:32 AM PDT

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      •  Most of us (1+ / 0-)
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        are very good at ignoring these distractions to get to the mental nutrition of the conversation. Ignoring tends to work well also.

        It is the heart that makes a man rich. He is rich according to what he is not what he has -Henry Ward Beecher

        by PSWaterspirit on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 12:16:35 PM PDT

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  •  Marching toward fascism (3+ / 0-)
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    See Marcy Wheeler, emptywheel.com and the fascist national surveillance state.

    Restore the Fourth! Save America!

    by phillies on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 10:33:50 AM PDT

  •  I absolutely agree with the diarist (3+ / 0-)
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    That is a hard thing to hear:  that 2/3 of the poor and minorities are worse off now than they were in the 1960's.  I agree with it, however, and here is why.

    Prior to the civil rights movement and the 1960's race and anti-war protests and riots, the economics of the far right and conservatism were an academic exercise.  For forty years after FDR and the New Deal, America made progress towards a middle class economy.  Unionization, better working conditions, living wages, defined benefits pensions, employer provided HC, and social mobility (within reason) were advancing steadily.  Republicans couldn't get elected dog catcher unless they moderated their conservative economics, and ran like Ike, in the center.  Many of the economic and political positions in the current GOP platform would have been laughed out of the room by even politically savvy "conservatives" in that era. Challenge the New Deal, and you were political road kill.

    Things weren't great for blacks, but the slowly rising tide of economic growth was making things better.  Slowly.  And, people's attitudes were changing.  

    Then came the 1960's.  I'll risk saying that the country wasn't quite ready (and a lot of the country was definitely not ready).  The Right used this racial and social animosity to divide and conquer.  All of a sudden, the discredited economics of the 1920's were not being laughed at, they were being taken seriously.  Why, because they came with a heaping helping of racial and socio-economic polarization that soothed the fears of the privileged who's privilege was under siege.

    Whether the 1960's was "moral" or not, is not the issue or the question.  What that period did was let the genie out of the box that FRD and the great depression put it in.  The vampires of the roaring 20's, who never really died, but were put in hibernation by the regulations and taxes of the 1930's and 40's, rose from their sleep.  The 1960's allowed the conservative economic agenda to breath, and that oxygen renewed it's life and made Nixon, and later Reagan, possible.  And, Reagan was magnificent as a messenger for the agenda.  The plutocratic cabal and their agenda, that has foisted modern fascism on America, was not created by the 1960's, but it's success and domination was made possible by it.  And, it has decimated the poor and minorities (at least that bottom 2/3), perhaps beyond being saved.

    Now, it's too late.  The power (money) has been consolidated.  We're headed for a new feudalism, and it won't be pretty (that's if the Chinese are benevolent rulers of the next century).  We can all argue if it's been worth it, and depending on who you are, I'm sure your opinion will be different.  We no longer have school segregation and separate restrooms for blacks.  Abortion is legal, and gender discrimination isn't.  War protests have an effect (see 1996 midterms).  But, economically, the war on poverty and the civil rights movement have failed, in that they became the vehicle for the fascist soft-dictatorship the country will know, for at least the rest of our lives.

    •  I agree except for the last part (2+ / 0-)
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      the war on poverty and civil rights were not the vehicle,  the war on poverty was coopted.  In fact it was a letter from a young Dick Cheney to a young-ish Donald Rumsfeld about how to dismantle the office of poverty control that got him "discovered".

      The movement toward the soft-dictatorship you speak of was founded as a reactionary movement to the civil rights and anti-war movements of the 60's.  It was the Powell memo.  from the very beginning it was all about taking the reigns of government and instituting a corporate state.

      So, it wasn't through those positive developments that it happened, it was a response to it (and the coopting of it)

      just like they did with the leadership of the democratic party.

      Be the change that you want to see in the world

      by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 11:23:49 AM PDT

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        planned out it was certainly brilliant in an incredibly evil way.

        It is the heart that makes a man rich. He is rich according to what he is not what he has -Henry Ward Beecher

        by PSWaterspirit on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 12:11:30 PM PDT

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      •  the Powell memo became law in Buckley, now (1+ / 0-)
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        the bedrock of the oligarchy relied on in McCutcheon. Hedges was off by about 18 years. Carter was elected post-Watergate as an anticorruption candidate, but his party went corrupt out from under him in a plutocratic money war with the GOP after Buckley kicked in. Carter was inconvenient and was primaried, I'm guessing far more because he was out of step with corrupt party bosses like O'Neill who then cooperated with Reagan.

        Hedges can be forgiven for being unaware of US history back in 2010, but by now to not report the big lie of Buckley would be malpractice. None of this was new for plutocrat families waiting to avenge what TR and then FDR did to their fortunes. FDR had stared down the Court in his fireside chat of 3-9-37, telling the people straight about what the Court did to hijack their future, violating separation of powers. as had usually been the case since Dred Scott. This won the war against the Court, leading to the golden era of democracy that ended in Buckley. Jefferson's warning after Marbury , that the Court justices were "sappers and miners"undermining democracy, again goes unheeded.

        American politics is not hard to figure, McCutcheon is a wholesale takeover of Congressional power, after Buckley and progeny had left it a defenseless second-class branch. Clearly, you defeat a republic by segregating its law-making branch as separate and unequal. Under the new constitutional system, the permanent Executive and Court run the store, the Congress are just hired phone-bank callers selling access to the treasury.

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          thanks for writing that.  It is so clear now that this has been a 40 year planned response to the "crisis of democracy" brought about in the late 1960's.

          do you have any suggestions on how we can possibly amend the constitution?  what will it take?

          Be the change that you want to see in the world

          by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 04:30:42 PM PDT

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    dontchaknow?

    -You want to change the system, run for office.

    by Deep Texan on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 11:28:37 AM PDT

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    I intend to look up more information by him and read it.

    I have seen the democratic party shoot itself in the foot also and he is spot on with much of it.

    Here is what I have come to see. our government thinks in Macro it rolls out a cookie cutter to deal with a problem then applies it across the board. When what is really going on are a lot of micro problems that may have very different solutions. In the end it often destroys what it was meant to fix.

    I was young when affirmative action pretty much took down the construction unions in the PNW. It was not the people who were given preference that caused it, it was the way it was forced to be implemented. Prior to affirmative action people coming into union apprenticeship had already had years of experience working in non union companies. The best and brightest of those got union apprenticeships. When affirmative action kicked in the unions had to fill quotas even if that meant hiring people who had never done the work.

    Most of these jobs require years of experience actually doing the work to be really good at them. The union shops got their contracts because they produced higher quality work and finished on time. Without the experienced people they no longer had that edge. Those who got locked out of the union jobs were resentful and turned on the unions. The non union shops began being a better choice because they had the experienced people and could do a better job.

    The plan was obviously created by someone who thought construction was a unskilled job that was easy to learn. When anyone tried to explain the real problem they were instantly labeled a racist without ever hearing what they had to say.

    Had someone actually listened it may have worked out much much better. It was a problem that needed a fine mind with ALL the facts not just a bunch of assumptions.

    Somewhere else in this same field of work solving the problem may have needed a whole different set of solutions.

    The resentment lives on to this day and has created many republicans.

    It is the heart that makes a man rich. He is rich according to what he is not what he has -Henry Ward Beecher

    by PSWaterspirit on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 11:34:42 AM PDT

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    given the abrasive response to comments. I have my own questions about the diary's premise of economic conditions declining since the 1940s.  But I don't see the point in discussing it, if I just get called names and accused of untoward behavior.

    “The answer must be, I think, that beauty and grace are performed whether or not we will or sense them. The least we can do is try to be there.” ― Annie Dillard, Pilgrim at Tinker Creek

    by 6412093 on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 11:35:40 AM PDT

    •  agreed, a cheeky response (0+ / 0-)

      is really all this deserves.

      I say if you really think being slave was better then come on down to the fields.

      -You want to change the system, run for office.

      by Deep Texan on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 11:44:14 AM PDT

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        nobody said anything like that, I suggest you read the transcript and find out what he is talking bout.

        here, watch the closure of the speech.  listen to what he says in closing.

        https://www.youtube.com/...

        Be the change that you want to see in the world

        by New Minas on Tue Jun 10, 2014 at 12:57:49 PM PDT

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        •  You are right, (0+ / 0-)

          the reproduced text in the diary said conditions had worsened since 1967, not the 40s as I commented.

          but one could argue that the bottom two-thirds are worse off now than they were when Dr. King was assassinated;
          I dispute that contention also.

          “The answer must be, I think, that beauty and grace are performed whether or not we will or sense them. The least we can do is try to be there.” ― Annie Dillard, Pilgrim at Tinker Creek

          by 6412093 on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 12:07:52 PM PDT

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          •  do you have facts (0+ / 0-)

            that show that what he is saying isn't true?

            for example, what is the difference in wage income for black America since 2008?

            for instance,

            where do you suppose the bottom 2/3 of the African American population sits on this graphic?

            http://depts.washington.edu/...

            the fact is he was presenting at the Union Theological Seminary for their Poverty Initiative discussion.  You can hear the approval of this statement from the audience.

            These are specialists on poverty in the united states. arguably THE ones most aware of the reality on the ground.

            Hell even Hedges himself used to be in charge of a mission in Boston when he was at Harvard Divinity.

            Be the change that you want to see in the world

            by New Minas on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 08:49:08 PM PDT

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