Skip to main content

The DailyKos diary which featured the gun-toting asshole inside the baby department at a Target store turned my stomach.  Target is apparently too timid to refuse entrance to people sporting firearms.

The only solution is to boycott Target, and to let them know you think their policy is disgusting.

Address for Target Stores’ president is below.


Originally posted to Pragmatus on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 05:56 PM PDT.

Also republished by Shut Down the NRA.

EMAIL TO A FRIEND X
Your Email has been sent.
You must add at least one tag to this diary before publishing it.

Add keywords that describe this diary. Separate multiple keywords with commas.
Tagging tips - Search For Tags - Browse For Tags

?

More Tagging tips:

A tag is a way to search for this diary. If someone is searching for "Barack Obama," is this a diary they'd be trying to find?

Use a person's full name, without any title. Senator Obama may become President Obama, and Michelle Obama might run for office.

If your diary covers an election or elected official, use election tags, which are generally the state abbreviation followed by the office. CA-01 is the first district House seat. CA-Sen covers both senate races. NY-GOV covers the New York governor's race.

Tags do not compound: that is, "education reform" is a completely different tag from "education". A tag like "reform" alone is probably not meaningful.

Consider if one or more of these tags fits your diary: Civil Rights, Community, Congress, Culture, Economy, Education, Elections, Energy, Environment, Health Care, International, Labor, Law, Media, Meta, National Security, Science, Transportation, or White House. If your diary is specific to a state, consider adding the state (California, Texas, etc). Keep in mind, though, that there are many wonderful and important diaries that don't fit in any of these tags. Don't worry if yours doesn't.

You can add a private note to this diary when hotlisting it:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from your hotlist?
Are you sure you want to remove your recommendation? You can only recommend a diary once, so you will not be able to re-recommend it afterwards.
Rescue this diary, and add a note:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from Rescue?
Choose where to republish this diary. The diary will be added to the queue for that group. Publish it from the queue to make it appear.

You must be a member of a group to use this feature.

Add a quick update to your diary without changing the diary itself:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary?
(The diary will be removed from the site and returned to your drafts for further editing.)
(The diary will be removed.)
Are you sure you want to save these changes to the published diary?

Comment Preferences

  •  Tip Jar (10+ / 0-)

    “When it comes to this, I shall prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty—to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.” —Abraham Lincoln

    by Pragmatus on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 05:56:57 PM PDT

  •  I'm curious what the solution is for this (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    drmah, alypsee1, Skyye

    maybe to have the senior citizen door greeting person working at a shit job trying to make ends meet confront these crazies?

    To me it seems like you're targeting the wrong entity here - how about boycotting counties or states that allow this behavior in the first place?

    •  Target has greeters? (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Gooserock, alypsee1, Calamity Jean

      They didn't the last time I set foot in one of their stores, which has to be 8 or 9 years ago.

      Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

      by JeffW on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 06:11:19 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Maybe not a greeter per se, methinks the (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Calamity Jean

        role is really to deter shoplifters from walking out with stuff (although, like the gun situation, I'm not sure what they're really equipped to to do if they detected such activity)

        In any event, they sometimes nod to you when you're on your way in . . . . hence, the "greeter" designation.

    •  How would one boycott (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Karl Rover, Pragmatus

      a county or state? It makes more sense (and numbers) to individually boycott the Targets we shop in.

      "Just when you think you've lost everything, you find out you can lose a little more." Bob Dylan

      by weezilgirl on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 06:35:44 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Obvious answer (4+ / 0-)

      Post signs, saying NO GUNS. Then call 911 whenever a gun appears.

      This has been another: Simple answer to stupid question.

      This Rover crossed over.. Willie Nelson, written by Dorothy Fields

      by Karl Rover on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 06:50:37 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  There was a diary about that strategy (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        travelerxxx, blackhand

        here a DailyKos a few days ago - apparently a person is in legal jeopardy for calling 911 to report things that are perfectly legal.

        So, if open carry is legal, what are the police going to do?

        •  And as you shop in Target with children, (0+ / 0-)

          how do you know the big guy with the really big assault rifle is doing something legal, and he has no nefarious intent?  And what are the consequences if a concerned shopper calls the police and is mistaken, versus assuming the guy is harmless and being mistaken?

          I am also in Texas, Roadbed Guy, and if I recall correctly, any retailer can post signs prohibiting firearms, and anyone violating same is trespassing, subject to escort off the property, and arrest.  Works for me, and I think we should let Target and others know we won't patronize if they don't change their policy.  Other states' laws vary, of course, including those that prohibit open carry.

          I'm part of the "bedwetting bunch of website Democrat base people (DKos)." - Rush Limbaugh, 10/16/2012 Torture is Wrong! We live near W so you don't have to. Send love.

          by tom 47 on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 06:29:37 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  Private property (0+ / 0-)

          if you post a sign, you can keep out whoever you want (exceptions apply: no discrimination by color, etc) Ever been to Arizona or other gun-toting states? the signs are all over. If someone comes in and won't leave, they're trespassing, which is never "perfectly legal"

          This has been obvious answers to silly questions.

          This Rover crossed over.. Willie Nelson, written by Dorothy Fields

          by Karl Rover on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 01:54:57 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  And, Or, Both (0+ / 0-)

      I boycott both as best I can!

      All combinations work for me. IT is insanity!

      what will our society be one of a fearful citizenry?

      I am thankful I don't have children, I deeply feel for those who must send their children to school now and for the children that must think of the potential of gunfire and death instead of being children, learning to think and interact with others.

      Practice With Intent, Conscious Awareness to Expand and Shift In This Newness of All That Is

      by Skyye on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 05:32:52 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Open carriers have a name for those greeters. They (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Roadbed Guy, tcdup, rb608, annieli

    call them Target Practice.

  •  Good idea in theory, but, to be pragmatic, (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    JeffW, JackND, Pragmatus

    successful boycotts aren't so simple.  If the groundwork isn't laid for an organized, nationwide boycott, it won't spontaneously work, and Target will ignore it.

    "Trust me... I've been right before." ~ Tea party patriot

    by Calvino Partigiani on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 06:06:02 PM PDT

    •  The most effective outcome of a boycott (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Calvino Partigiani

      is really nasty publicity.  Doesn't matter how widespread the actual boycott is, only the number of people interested in the possibility.

      “When it comes to this, I shall prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty—to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.” —Abraham Lincoln

      by Pragmatus on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 07:00:09 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Sign this petition (9+ / 0-)

    “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

    by Catte Nappe on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 06:20:52 PM PDT

  •  #OffTarget (6+ / 0-)

    Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America has a campaign underway on this very issue. On Twitter:
    #OffTarget
    @target
    #Moms Demand

    Call Target at 888-897-0086

  •  I am curious, what is the policy of Walmart (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Eyesbright, weezilgirl, alypsee1

    regarding the carrying of firearms?

    An illusion can never be destroyed directly... SK.

    by Thomas Twinnings on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 06:30:15 PM PDT

  •  I was figuring to call Target before going, (8+ / 0-)

    asking if it was safe to shop right now. I know it sounds crazy and might be a tad embarrassing, but if they got these kinds of calls often enough, they'd start wondering how much business they are losing because of their gun policy.

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 06:38:23 PM PDT

    •  Of course that would be effective only if real (0+ / 0-)

      people answered the phone. Going through "automation telephone hell" serves only to irritate the caller. The callee suffers no inconvenience. Other than that, great idea!

    •  I think that is a PERFECT idea (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      travelerxxx

      Boycotts don't work by actually causing a loss of revenue, but by creating severe negative publicity.

      Every time an item appears in the press affirming that Target allows people to roam their stores with loaded guns, and that people are boycotting their stores because of it, we inch one step closer to our goal.

      “When it comes to this, I shall prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty—to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.” —Abraham Lincoln

      by Pragmatus on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 06:56:56 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Your running the risk of making Target (0+ / 0-)

    A body in your political policy fight.  This is not a position that they want to be in.  For your side or for the side of the pro-carry crowd.  You're also assuming that if you make enough noise they will side with you and this may be a mistake.

    The best answer for Target, or any other company, is to comply with the state and local laws pertaining to carry and address any problematic individual by asking them to please leave.

    You might also want to remember that in most jurisdictions, silly "no guns" signs have no force and are meaningless.  In the areas where they do have force, the company not view it as being in their interests to put them up because that too will be alienating customers who spend money as well as make them targets of the pro carry crowd. Again, you're putting them in a bad position that they will want to avoid based on your belief in your position.  There be monsters in those waters.

    "It's not surveillance, it's data collection to keep you safe"

    by blackhand on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 07:35:36 AM PDT

    •  What about signs (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Pragmatus

      that say "no dogs except service dogs", "no shirt, no shoes, no service"? And on and on. I know that the object is guns are dangerous but I disagree with you about the sign issue.

      I don't believe that "No Guns" signs are silly and meaningless. I've seen a man go back to his truck and put his pistol back inside when he paused and read the sign.  And this is ARKANSAS. This restaurant stays very busy and I've not seen a gun in there. I'm not saying there aren't any but no one is displaying them by walking around with one slung around their neck. And the bottom line is the customer should feel safe.

      “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

      by weezilgirl on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 08:00:16 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I agree with you on many respects (0+ / 0-)

        I don't believe that people should be walking around with rifles slung around their necks.  I am a less concerned about people having a pistol secured in holster.  It depends on how they are conducting themselves.  The difference being in the former they are making an obnoxious statement in the latter they may be going on about their business.  I also understand this is why many people prefer concealed carry.  

        I say no guns signs are silly because at best they create an illusion.  The do not make you safe.  They will never stop someone who has ill intent.   It will only affect people who are not going to be a problem.  I agree that the customer should feel safe and welcome in the environment, which is why I oppose the behavior of these open carry nuts.

        As far as the customer who returned to his truck, that was his choice, just as the option to put up a sign is the choice of the facility owner / operator.  

        I still say trying to make businesses take a stance on this political issue is a losing proposition and should be avoided.

        "It's not surveillance, it's data collection to keep you safe"

        by blackhand on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 08:33:43 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Target is on everyone's (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    weezilgirl, Pragmatus

    boycott list.

    It is a wonder they are still in business...

    (I avoid them since they forced to get a new credit card)

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site