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It all boils down to the fact that the Supreme Court will remain in conservative hands for the next 20-30 years. The Scalia 5 will undo any reform we manage to pass, if we ever manage to pass it. Even if we retain the White House, we will never be allowed to appoint anything vaguely resembling a "liberal" justice to the court.

Conservatives are going to dismantle this country one decision at a time. Abortion will soon be functionally illegal, and marriage equality will be next in the crosshairs. I know plenty of people who believe Kennedy is a cinch vote on gay rights, but Kennedy has let us down MANY times in the past and it's a coin flip as to whether he will vote to let states decide on marriage equality issues.

The Scalia 5 should have been impeached for Bush v. Gore (staunch Nixon defender and Manson prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi made a great case for it, but the spineless Dems refuse to fight, or simply collaborate.

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  •  What republic? (1+ / 0-)
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    Vetwife

    I voted Tuesday, May 6, 2014 because it is my right, my responsibility and because my parents moved from Alabama to Ohio to vote. Unfortunately, the republicons want to turn Ohio into Alabama.

    by a2nite on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 09:37:08 AM PDT

  •  That's silly. (9+ / 0-)

    This is a wrong decision but it's not a big decision.  I know this because until a couple of years ago there was no presumption whatsoever that insurance would cover contraception.  Now the Court has said, foolishly, that a certain narrow swath of employers doesn't have to cover contraception, and you're telling me that not only are we worse off than a few years ago when no employer had to, but that our Republic is finished?  I'll leave that idiocy to the Beckites, thank you.

    It's not the side effects of the cocaine/I'm thinking that it must be love

    by Rich in PA on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 09:38:06 AM PDT

    •  Not a big decision? (1+ / 0-)
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      corvo

      I take from your UID, you don't have a vagina.

      “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” - John Steinbeck (Disputed)

      by RichM on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 09:50:05 AM PDT

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      •  Yes, none of us in the 116K range have one. (5+ / 0-)

        That number block was reserved for men.  Seriously Rich, did you even read what I wrote?  

        It's not the side effects of the cocaine/I'm thinking that it must be love

        by Rich in PA on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 09:53:04 AM PDT

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        •  Sigh... (4+ / 0-)
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          BlackSheep1, corvo, Chi, blueoasis

          You know what I mean.  And BECAUSE it is narrow - it is even more egregious.  It means that they are willing carve up any law based on 'religious' freedom according to their personal beliefs and tastes.  If they upheld 'religious conviction' as a whole, at least that would be consistent (although totally chaotic).  By holding up contraceptives only, they are favoring a specific religious belief over a specific minority.  THAT is a big deal.  

          “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” - John Steinbeck (Disputed)

          by RichM on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 09:57:44 AM PDT

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    •  If you read what I said in the title (3+ / 0-)
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      corvo, Chi, blueoasis

      "As I have said before..."

      It was not this particular decision that ended the Republic. The Republic was pretty much over when the "Patriot Act" was passed and the Dems handed the court to the Conservatives.

      The decline of the Republic at the hands of the SCOTUS started with the elimination of the Fairness Doctrine and "money is speech" rulings and continued with the 1993 Herrera ruling (actual innocence is not an obstacle to executing someone), then Bush v. Gore where the court appointed the president it wanted, leading into the erosion of the Civil Rights act, Citizens United, et al.

      For every ruling that has gone our way, there have been 2-3 rulings going against us.

      The Great Writ, as well as the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th and 8th Amendments are now null and void.

  •  You are wrong, but these decisions do suck. nt (4+ / 0-)
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    avsp, Mopshell, AlexDrew, noreaster88

    "When people show you who they really are, believe them." - Maya Angelou

    by Pennsylvanian on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 09:39:40 AM PDT

  •  I fully expect the 19th amendment to be overturned (0+ / 0-)

    Plus Loving v Virginia as well.

  •  Agree this is silly. (5+ / 0-)

    It's not a good decision, but its also not the end of the world.
    Both Kennedy and Scalia are 78, they won't be there forever.  Assuming a Democrat is President whoever replaces them will be substantially less conservative then they are.   We are paying the price for losing in 2004.

  •  a 5-4 decision. (0+ / 0-)

    Just pushing us to where we need to be--another way of looking at it.  Bad ideas have a very limited shelf life.  People will look back sadly at this period of our history, which this opinion may well ultimately help us push past.  

    "You cannot win improv." Stephen Colbert (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6tiaooiIo0 at 16:24).

    by Publius2008 on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 09:44:56 AM PDT

    •  I agree that "bad ideas" (3+ / 0-)
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      corvo, NoMoreLies, blueoasis

      can have a short shelf life, but bad Supreme Court decisions can last a LONG time (see Plessy v. Ferguson)

    •  Well, today is just not the day (0+ / 0-)

      for optimism here with this SCOTUS, at least we can probably all agree on that.  As for it not being a 'big deal' it IS a big deal and it ain't the contraception itself that makes it so.

      It is the FACT that SCOTUS at the very least appears to be favoring one religion over another - that is anathema to what this country was founded on.  It is a slippery slope here whether you'd like to see that or not.

      What about the next Corp that says they don't "believe" in blood tranfusions?  Just because this case said it won't touch that now doesn't mean the next one won't make that threshold.  Then what?  Just because it's only a 'womens' issue THIS time doesn't mean it will be next time...

      I hope you are right, I really, really do.  But I have some real doubts about this country and its doomed status, and I for one think we won't see an end to the stupidity until it's far, far too late.  Typical in America, don't you think?

  •  Uh, this is not remotely a "fact" (7+ / 0-)

    "the fact that the Supreme Court will remain in conservative hands for the next 20-30 years."

    Don't represent opinions as facts. Just because they do doesn't mean we should too.

    Dick Cheney 2/14/10: "I was a big supporter of waterboarding"

    by Bob Love on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 09:45:55 AM PDT

  •  Not sure how this would have worked. (4+ / 0-)
    The Scalia 5 should have been impeached for Bush v. Gore (staunch Nixon defender and Manson prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi made a great case for it, but the spineless Dems refuse to fight, or simply collaborate.
    Impeaching any public official requires a majority in the House—something the Democrats didn't have for the first six years of the Bush presidency. When the other party controls the House, they control everything in the House—including what reaches the House floor.

    Conviction and removal from office for any public official requires a two-thirds majority in the Senate—something the Democrats haven't had since 1967. So even if the House Democrats had successfully impeached those five Supreme Court justices, it would have been an uphill battle (and that's being very generous) to actually remove them from office.

    So how, exactly, do you think Democrats could have successfully impeached and removed from office all five of the justices who voted in the majority in Bush v. Gore? (And, for that matter, how exactly would you have ensured that George W. Bush, who would have still been President, wouldn't replace them with new justices who were just as bad but younger, ensuring even more right-wing domination of the Court for the next 30+ years?)

    "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

    by JamesGG on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 09:47:06 AM PDT

    •  The Dems never try (2+ / 0-)
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      and the GOP always does.

      That is why Clinton was impeached, but Bush and the SCOTUS were not.

      Even if they had failed they would have severely damaged the court and probably cost Bush the next election.

      Instead they fell in line like good little tools and we got 8 years of Bush, a multi-trillion dollar war, and a court that pretty much legalized selling the nation to the highest bidder.

      As long as people keep spinning losses like this as "ain't no thing", we are doomed.

  •  You are wrong! You're an idiot! What kind of (3+ / 0-)
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    Vwrtb1177, corvo, blueoasis

    response are these to a Diarist or a commenter?
    I can't believe what I'm reading, when the best response is to cast slurs at who we disagree with.
    This diary is very pessimistic but, from the writers position, it represents the future and it appears bleak.

    "If you tell the truth, you won't have to remember anything", Mark Twain

    by Cruzankenny on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 09:53:20 AM PDT

  •  It's a perfectly good Republic if you are a (3+ / 0-)
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    Mopshell, happymisanthropy, blueoasis

    billionaire.  It has cheap labor and an army that your cheap labor helps you pay for ... might be difficult to find clean water for bathing in about 10 years.

  •  Actually (2+ / 0-)
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    Matt Z, side pocket

    I think there's a case to be made for impeaching Roberts for his confirmation testimony to the Senate.

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