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716,000 public sector jobs lost, and another 813,000 that would have needed to be gained to keep up with population growth.
The June jobs report saw little change in the number of government jobs. But that means that a significant public jobs gap is still not going anywhere:
One thing that has been historically unique about this recovery is the unprecedented loss of public sector jobs. The private sector began adding jobs in the spring of 2010, but the public sector continued shedding jobs until last summer. [...] We are currently 716,000 public sector jobs below where we were when the recovery started, but to keep up with population growth since then, we should have added over 800,000 jobs, so we are around 1.5 million public sector jobs down. About a third of them are teachers and other employees in public K-12 education.
Those are good jobs that supported middle-class families. They're also jobs that served the public. And their loss is part of a concerted Republican war on public workers, public services, and really, the idea of the public good.

Continue reading below the fold for more of the week's labor and education news.

A fair day's wage

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Education

Originally posted to Daily Kos Labor on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 10:55 AM PDT.

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  •  And a number of the other jobs (11+ / 0-)

    traditionally would have been postal clerks, library paraprofessionals, and other jobs that have served for years as ways to help one's children move from the lower/lower-middle class into more education and better lives.

    •  the post office they are trying to kill? (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      libera nos, OregonOak, hbk

      with part time two tier lower paid workers who now don't have to belong to the union?  

      The only way to slow the recovery is to keep the government from investing in building/repairs, and to keep the sequester cut so as to not have any replacement hires.  If the IRS suffers, that's in the plan too. And if there isn't money for our vets, oh well, that's good for nastiness and if the state department is squeezed and someone else gets killed, bonus? The only way to keep women poor and children disadvantaged is to not raise the minimum wage, especially for tipped workers.

      they are actively screwing our recovery and our health, out of pique, and nastiness.

      Under the circumstances I admire Obama even more.

      plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

      by anna shane on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 11:29:51 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  And if we can defund not only the public schools (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        anna shane, hbk

        But the libraries, we can be sure their children won't be able to read.

        •  the libraries are defunded (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          ChuckInReno, libera nos

          they survive now on donations. And PBS, that'll never recover from the bush years, they are cautious always.  The night of the 3rd, the day that will do down in history as when we found out the males on the supreme court are vampires, they didn't report on that, one of the biggest feminist outrage stories of the century (so far anyway) and they didn't find time to mention it.

          plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

          by anna shane on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 12:48:01 PM PDT

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          •  Libraries (1+ / 0-)
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            anna shane

            In the Northeast tend to be doing a little better. Don't know about anywhere else. But even they have had materials and programming budgets cut to the bone.

            After all, "you can google anything", and of course "one source is as good as another".

            Damned if they're going to let us teach critical thinking, either.

        •  Perfect. More Low Wage Workers. (0+ / 0-)

          To build the Wall between Texas and Mexico. More Low Wage Workers To cut your lawn, change your oil, fix your gutters, wash your driveway, tend the children, fetch and carry, be available on call for home improvement projects, and in general, revive the Slave Economy so rudely interrupted by librulz in their misguided quest for Equality and Harmony.

          We all fail to nail down the true downside. The Other Side sees nothing at all wrong with any of this.

          Figures don't lie, but liars do figure-Mark Twain

          by OregonOak on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 02:43:07 PM PDT

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  •  Accountability (10+ / 0-)
    One thing that has been historically unique about this recovery is the unprecedented loss of public sector jobs.
    The Tea Party built that.  And they're running on it for re-election this year at all levels of government.

    50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

    by TarheelDem on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 11:07:25 AM PDT

  •  The Repugs are getting what they want (6+ / 0-)

    Smaller government at all levels.  They have managed to cut government spending from NASA to local governments.

    I don't blame the Dems but IMO they have not put up a fight like they should have.

    Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action.

    by Shockwave on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 11:07:40 AM PDT

    •  Would it be wrong (1+ / 0-)
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      Shockwave

      or discriminatory for public service workers to ask those in line if they are libertarians or republicans and then ask them to step behind  independents and members of the Democratic Party?  Can we make them drive in the rippled bus lane, reserving the un-potholed lane for taxpayers?

      Everybody's going serfing, serfing USA

      by Cen Den on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 11:39:08 AM PDT

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      •  That's not a bad idea. (2+ / 0-)
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        Darth Stateworker, Shockwave

        But I don't know if said libertarians would get the message. They love cuts in government services until the second that they need them.

        When they then complain about the absence of services, you can point out the contradiction to them....

        ....but then they'll just go on about how the absent services are a result of "government inefficiency." It will, of course, never be the fault of draconian Republican cuts, but can instead be blamed on the vaguely defined "inability" of government workers to provide the same level of service that they expect of the private sector.

        So then, these complaints about "government inefficiency" go into the hopper of generalized anti-government resentment...

        ... and then they go back to elect government officials who refuse to govern, politicians with no commitment to the polity.

        ... and experience further service cuts.

        ... which leads them to complain even more.

        C'mon, everybody! "Oh, it's the Circle of Life...."

        Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of non-thought. -- Milan Kundera

        by Dale on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 12:34:29 PM PDT

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  •  Looks like we've been had (3+ / 0-)
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    Shockwave, alwaysquestion, llywrch

    Our "socialist" President is really a capitalist in socialist clothing. Even Reagan could not get out of his recession without massive increases in government employment and spending.

    I don't know what consciousness is or how it works, but I like it.

    by SocioSam on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 11:11:50 AM PDT

    •  I don't know what happened.... (3+ / 0-)

      ....whenever I vote for a US Senator for president, one that used to be a law school professor, I more or less expect him to call on us to expropriate expropriators, and to seize the commanding heights of the economy in the name of the workers.

      I mean, that's logical, right.

      And it's just what Mrs. Clinton would have done, or Mr. Edwards -- at least the 'property is theft' planks in their platforms were a stab in the right direction

      You won't catch me voting for Obama again, no siree...

      The superfluous goods of the rich are necessary to the poor, and when you possess the superfluous you possess what is not yours." St. Augustine

      by Davis X Machina on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 11:20:13 AM PDT

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      •  I'll take that comment at face value (3+ / 0-)

        My goodness that would be a great candidate to vote for!

        Someone actually telling the parasitical 1% that their free ride is over and that they'll henceforth be paying for the rebuilding of America through asset seizure. Wow. I'd vote early and often for that person.

        •  Every year... (0+ / 0-)

          ...a few tens of thousands of people do.

          That's the problem.

          It's a few tens of thousands of people.

          The superfluous goods of the rich are necessary to the poor, and when you possess the superfluous you possess what is not yours." St. Augustine

          by Davis X Machina on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 11:42:44 AM PDT

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        •  Re (0+ / 0-)
          Someone actually telling the parasitical 1% that their free ride is over and that they'll henceforth be paying for the rebuilding of America through asset seizure. Wow. I'd vote early and often for that person.
          The 1% make 19% of the income and pay 40% of the total federal taxes paid by anyone.

          Not sure how this can be considered parasitic.

          (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
          Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

          by Sparhawk on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 06:26:13 PM PDT

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          •  Time to tax their wealth then. (2+ / 0-)
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            Mostel26, jbsoul

            The wealth of the middle class - their homes - is taxed every year.

            Time to do the same shit to the 1% succubi.

            "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

            by Darth Stateworker on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 08:38:35 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

      •  is this snark? (0+ / 0-)

        or have you been asleep?  

        This is a last ditch effort to keep at least one party white, the GOP. These plans have been in the making, there is a lot that is great about Obama, but making them show their colors is near the top.  He has been so reasonable that they had to show the real agenda. And thankfully it is here before the midterms.

        Don't you think the biggest reason traffic is up here, as if it were before a presidential election, is this stuff, we're all talking about it?  There is an issue for every person under fifty, birth control, minimum wage, health care, road/bridge repairs, Chris Christie, a reason for every able body to wait in line as long as it takes and for every voter to help someone who needs help get to the polls.  

        We should be gathering folding chairs and make cookie/hot chocolate deliveries to waiting in line voters, for their comfort, and provide entertainment, and gift cards from local businesses for already voted's.  

        plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

        by anna shane on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 11:40:18 AM PDT

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    •  Got duped by Republicans? (1+ / 0-)
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      virginislandsguy

      Republicans are the only ones calling Obama socialist. I guess they got you on that one.

      They also got you to blame Obama for not spending more stimulus dollars. Obama asked for more jobs spending. Republicans blocked it. They want you to blame Obama for their obstruction and you fell for it. Yes, you've been duped. By Republicans.

  •  How to destroy the Am middle class? Get rid (6+ / 0-)

    of public sector jobs by demonizing teachers & others. Decrease the tax base with tax cuts to the wealthy & voila, pot holes galore, & less govt for us.

    The evil rotten rich are winning. The evil teapublikkkans are winning.

    I voted Tuesday, May 6, 2014 because it is my right, my responsibility and because my parents moved from Alabama to Ohio to vote. Unfortunately, the republicons want to turn Ohio into Alabama.

    by a2nite on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 11:12:10 AM PDT

    •  not in the end though (0+ / 0-)

      you can't eat your consumers and expect to stay in business.  once it's only finance, and only they have the money?  That's why I believe in free enterprise, these corporate welfare takers don't need to think, they are guaranteed a short term win, so they don't feel the need to think of the future, or to hire smarter people.

      plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

      by anna shane on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 11:42:28 AM PDT

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  •  Government creates good jobs. (8+ / 0-)

    I'm tired of the mindless talking point about government not creating jobs. No more!

  •  One graphic says so much. Thank you. (3+ / 0-)
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    alwaysquestion, anna shane, unfangus

    Science is hell bent on consensus. Dr. Michael Crichton said “Let’s be clear: The work of science has nothing to do with consensus... which is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right,”

    by Regina in a Sears Kit House on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 11:21:31 AM PDT

  •  $2 billion per week in Afghanistan -- (0+ / 0-)

    That's what we were spending at the peak of President Obama's troop surge.  $2 billion every week, flushed down a toilet.  I can't help thinking of all the better ways that money could have been spent.   Might have been nice to spend it on a few new non-defense-related public sector jobs.   Maybe hire some new teachers?  Well, too late now.  The money is gone.

    •  The money is not "gone" (1+ / 0-)
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      hbk

      Money is never gone -- it doesn't disappear. It gets transferred from one pocket into another.

      The defense contractors, mercenary companies, consultants, etc. etc. made out like bandits during the Iraq & Afghan wars. So did some oligarchs in both those countries, and probably in support places like Uzbekistan. That's where our money went. (But adequate funding for the VA health system? Or for adequate personnel to process disability claims for returning vets? "We can't afford that.")

  •  Thanks to Obama and the Cons, with their (0+ / 0-)

    sequestration and debt ceiling cuts. The Pres has repeatedly perpetuated the myth that the Govt's budget is just like a household budget. This national embarrassment of the services gap is just as much the fault of Obama and the third way dems as it is the Cons.

    "The Earth is my country and Science my religion" Christiaan Huygens. The gold standard ended on August 15, 1971, its time we start acting like it. If we can afford full employment killing Germans, we can afford full employment during peace-time.

    by Auburn Parks on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 11:47:49 AM PDT

    •  Yeah, but there's always money for wars (2+ / 0-)
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      unfangus, Auburn Parks

      and the NSA and Homeland Security.  Both parties never have a problem finding votes in Congress to keep the war machine fully funded.

      •  You got it. Which leads to this great comment (2+ / 0-)

        posed by the famous Labour politician from England Tony Benn who championed the NHS over there:

        "If we can afford full employment killing Germans, we can afford full employment during peace time."

        "The Earth is my country and Science my religion" Christiaan Huygens. The gold standard ended on August 15, 1971, its time we start acting like it. If we can afford full employment killing Germans, we can afford full employment during peace-time.

        by Auburn Parks on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 12:07:47 PM PDT

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  •  Many private-sector jobs are quasi-public (1+ / 0-)
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    DQKennard

    If they are with companies doing government contract work, they are basically public workers without the benefits. So for example if Aramark adds jobs to handle their contract with prisons, they are being paid with tax money but with none of the wage and workplace protections of an actual government employee.

    Roll down the window and let the wind blow back your hair.

    by Lisa in Bama on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 12:05:26 PM PDT

  •  Our school district is finally hiring again (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Egalitare

    For the first time since 2008.  During the recession they cut a lot of teachers and para-pros. They also imposed furlough days and cut the total number of days in the school year to the legally mandated minimum.  Kindergarten and elementary class sizes were raised far beyond what they should have been.

    Anyway - property tax revenues are FINALLY back to relative normal in our county, so the school district's budget is being restored.  They are adding back in the days they had cut from the calendar.  For the 2014-2015 school year, they are also discontinuing the remaining no-pay furlough days and hiring additional bus drivers and teachers.

    Since so much of school spending is tied to property taxes, and schools are responsible for such a high percentage of government jobs, and it has taken this many years for home values and property taxes to somewhat return to normal, it's no surprise that government hiring has been down.

    Hopefully it continues to improve.

    •  Government jobs... (0+ / 0-)

      ...are always utterly dependent on private sector income.

      (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
      Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

      by Sparhawk on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 01:03:06 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Of course (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Egalitare

        when one looks at an economy on a macro level, everyone is utterly dependent on everyone elses income - and spending.  Welcome to how an economy functions.  Save your semantic, derisive nonsense for elsewhere.

        I wondered how long it would take one of our resident anti-public sector trolls to show up spouting off some nonsense.

        "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

        by Darth Stateworker on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 01:21:21 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  And vice versa (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Darth Stateworker

        Private businesses are always utterly dependent on the services provided by the government, such as roads, sewers, and education. That's especially true now, as businesses don't want to do any training of their employees so demand that the state universities and community colleges do that for them (at student expense, of course).

        •  Here's the difference (0+ / 0-)

          If all government employees packed up and left town, a town would just hire more, no problem.

          If all private industry packed up and left, the town would cease to exist.

          The town exists because of, and for the benefit of, the private workers that economically power it.

          (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
          Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

          by Sparhawk on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 04:24:25 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Utter bullshit. (1+ / 0-)
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            jbsoul

            Let's apply that theory to DC and see how it works.

            Sorry, but the relationship between government employees and private sector employees is and how "different" the sectors are is nothing more than class warfare semantics.

            But keep peddling it.

            "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

            by Darth Stateworker on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 08:32:50 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  DC subsists off gov't work (0+ / 0-)

              If we could figure out a way to keep the rest of the country running without DC, we'd be better off.

              Sorry, but the relationship between government employees and private sector employees is and how "different" the sectors are is nothing more than class warfare semantics.
              I want (some) services and I want to pay as little as reasonably possible for them. What system gets me the most services for as little money as possible? Because that's what every private worker is going to vote for.

              (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
              Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

              by Sparhawk on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 09:11:16 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  Anecdotally (1+ / 0-)
                Recommended by:
                jbsoul

                I can agree with this given DCs current (lack of) performance:

                If we could figure out a way to keep the rest of the country running without DC, we'd be better off.
                As far as this:
                I want (some) services and I want to pay as little as reasonably possible for them. What system gets me the most services for as little money as possible? Because that's what every private worker is going to vote for.
                It's funny how that works:  everyone has an overinflated sense of self-worth and value about themselves, but want to pay bargain barrel prices to everyone else.  That doesn't apply to just public sector services.

                And that is part of the problem.  That people tend to be short sighted and downright greedy.

                Again, you can attempt to make the argument that there is a "difference" between the public and private sectors and the value of the workers in each.  It's an obtuse argument.  I reiterate what I said above:  on a macro level - everyones spending is everyone elses income.  The idea that the private sector "creates value" while the public sector does not is asinine.

                "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

                by Darth Stateworker on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 11:23:35 PM PDT

                [ Parent ]

  •   (0+ / 0-)

    For the first time since 2008.  During the recession they cut a lot of teachers and para-pros. They also imposed furlough days and cut the total number of days in the school year to the legally mandated minimum.  Kindergarten and elementary class sizes were raised far beyond what they should have been.

    Anyway - property tax revenues are FINALLY back to relative normal in our county, so the school district's budget is being restored.  They are adding back in the days they had cut from the calendar.  For the 2014-2015 school year, they are also discontinuing the remaining no-pay furlough days and hiring additional bus drivers and teachers.

    Since so much of school spending is tied to property taxes, and schools are responsible for such a high percentage of government jobs, and it has taken this many years for home values and property taxes to somewhat return to normal, it's no surprise that government hiring has been down.

    Hopefully it continues to improve.

  •  Because of the multiplier effect (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Darth Stateworker

    among other things, the jobs gap shown in the graph tells only part of the story. Despite Republican claims to the contrary, public sector employees are not a segment of the idle rich, and do not salt all of their money away - they spend most of it, thus helping to create many additional jobs, as one dollar spent circulates multiple times. We have forgone all of these jobs, as well as those that would be produced by the investments in education and infrastructure that we are no longer making.

    We have it in our power to change this story.  If we get over the idea that our votes don't count, thus creating a self-fulfilling prophecy, together we can use them to throw out the obstructionists, overcome the gerrymanderers, and stun Washington D.C. in the process, to an extent that hasn't happened in decades. We need to stop blaming our leaders, shake off the apathy, and just do it!  If the tea party could pull this off, which they did, with only the help of putrid Fox News, Glenn Beck, and Rush Limbaugh, then so can we - and there are a lot more of us than there are of them, all over this great country!

    "The only thing we have to fear - is fear itself." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

    by orrg1 on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 01:01:51 PM PDT

  •  "Conservatives" (1+ / 0-)
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    Darth Stateworker

    They get to run twice on this cut in public sector jobs:

    -- They get to say they've at least made a dent, a "good start", at cutting the public sector, so we should elect more Republicans to do even more of that.

    -- They get to point at overall employment numbers and say (as if they had nothing to do with it) that Obama hasn't made the economy perfect, so we should elect more Republicans to stop the government from "getting in the way" of job-creating businesses.

    As an extra bonus, they point at problems in the public sector (education, the VA, etc.) and say (as if constrained funding and staffing wasn't the problem) and say that Government is bad and can't do the job, so we should elect more Republicans to do things right (mostly by turning it over to the private sector).

    •  It's actually a three-fer (1+ / 0-)
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      DQKennard

      Many of the services that used to be provided by public employees (janitors in schools and courthouses; prisons; school curriculum consultants; administration of public benefits) are now still being provided -- but they're contracted out to private companies, often very well-connected ones, who donate heavily to the legislators who force these changes. Those jobs count as "private sector" even though they're totally dependent on public funding. And they're poorly paid, but more expensive than direct hires.

  •  Number of public sector employees needed not (0+ / 0-)

    strictly tied to size of population.  That is one of the worst ways possible to judge what level of public employment or any resource is suitable.  This approach can over as well as under estimate what level of employment is needed.

    The number of public employees should be driven by the services needed as decided by elected officials, with those services delivered efficiently.  In addition, not all government work is done by employees on the payroll of government, much is done through work contracted to other organizations.  So the statistics in the diary does not accurately reflect the number of people who are ultimately working for government.

    The war on terror both in US and in other countries required additional staffing, which I would be more than happy to do without.  Similarly, if we had fewer people in prison, having fewer prison guards would not be a bad thing.  Resolving the nations immigration issues would also likely reduce the number of government employees needed on that issue.

    Some public employee work is suitable for replacement with iT and websites, this results not in a degrading of service to the public but an improvement in many instances.

    The number of public employees should be based on the public services the country decides that it wants.

    The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

    by nextstep on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 03:34:08 PM PDT

    •  On this I don't think anyone can disagree: (1+ / 0-)
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      jbsoul
      The number of public employees should be based on the public services the country decides that it wants.
      That statement in and of itself is more than fair and more than accurate.  The problem is this:

      1.  "The public" is not a homogenous group.  We all know that.  Some want more services, some want less, and it seems that one of the largest political arguments in the nation right now between left and right is just that:  What level of services do we want?

      2.  All things being equal, if the population of the nation is growing, and services levels for desired services need to remain the same - then yes indeed, the number of public sector employees will rise in conjunction with the population at large.  As shown in the graph - the opposite has occurred.  However, has demand for services fallen?  Have we outright eliminated a ton of services?  No.  Clearly, to anyone thinking logically, there's a disconnect.  However, you being you - and historically no fan of civil servants, your opinion isn't unexpected.

      3.  All of this ignores that in times of economic trouble, demand for services historically have increased above the norms, so the problem is exacerbated further as staffing levels decline.

      "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

      by Darth Stateworker on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 08:46:55 PM PDT

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  •  Vicious Circle (2+ / 0-)
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    DQKennard, Darth Stateworker

    1) Underfund government, lose services.
    2) Complain that government doesn't work, goto 1.

    And, for the 1%

    3) Profit!

  •  Gina Raimondo (1+ / 0-)
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    Darth Stateworker

    was a venture capitalist before she became State Treasurer. As far as I can tell, she truly believes that hedge funds are an appropriate low-risk (!!!) way to try to beef up the public pension funds without having to get more money appropriated by the General Assembly.

    I would love to have a woman governor, as RI's state government is notoriously macho and sexist. But not this woman -- I won't be voting for her in the primary. (I'd take her over any of the non-Democrats, though.)

    •  I keep reading about that in multiple (1+ / 0-)
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      New England states.  For some reason - many of the so=called Democrats there seem to think that putting money into hedge funds with overhead costs that are multiples of what it cost them to manage their pension trust funds in house is wise.

      I'd like to say "I don't get it", but I do get it.  Follow the campaign contributions...

      "There was no such thing as a "wealthy" hunter-gatherer. It is the creation of human society that has allowed the wealthy to become wealthy. As such, they have an obligation to pay a bit more to sustain that society than the not-so-wealthy." - Me

      by Darth Stateworker on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 08:50:09 PM PDT

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  •  Not trolling (or trying not to seem like I am) (0+ / 0-)

    But why should public jobs continue at that standard trendline? Shouldn't productivity through technology at least change the slope? But before even that, I don't get why the number of public sector jobs should necessarily track to overall population. Obviously, for police or fire there's a need to grow with the community's size, but for most public sector jobs shouldn't it be unrelated to population?

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