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The purpose of this Diary is to announce the birth of the Pikes Peak Region Kossacks group!

If you live in the Pikes Peak Region of Colorado, or are a former resident of the area, or have interests in this part of Colorado, we'd love to have you with us!

(And I'd have some evidence that I'm not the only Colorado Springs Kossack!)

;-)

Also: a hearty "Thank You" and tip-of-the-hat to the brilliant and kind Daily Kos staffer navajo for encouraging me to take this step!

If you meet any of the above descriptions, either leave a comment or Kosmail me and I'll get you an invite to the Group!

Please be patient with me -- I've never run a Daily Kos group before and I'm just now learning the ropes!  Thank You!

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  •  Tip Jar (12+ / 0-)

    "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

    by thanatokephaloides on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 05:24:56 PM PDT

  •  I have never lived there but I have spent (6+ / 0-)

    many days on horseback in the Pikes Peak National Forest riding in the wilderness. That's God's country. The beauty is at times overwhelming.

    "let's talk about that" uid 92953

    by VClib on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 05:31:08 PM PDT

  •  When you organize the 1st meeting... (8+ / 0-)

    ...I will try to make it there.

    Colorado Springs and Pikes Peak photo PikesPeakDowntown_zpsdc46c93f.jpg

    Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action.

    by Shockwave on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 05:35:49 PM PDT

  •  Live there long long ago (5+ / 0-)

    1982 to 1983.  Then Fort Morgan 1983 to 1986.  My oldest son was born in Colorado Springs.  Enjoyed climbing Pikes Peak up the Barr Trail, and a nice backpack circuit in the Lost Creek Wilderness.

    "Corporations exist not for themselves, but for the people." Ida Tarbell 1908.

    by Navy Vet Terp on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 06:23:23 PM PDT

  •  Excellent first step (6+ / 0-)

    As you gather people please ask them to look for others in the comments and to connect them to you. Also, kindly ask for their email addy so you can start a google group since our group email system is not yet up to snuff.

    Let's stay in touch as we grow your group.

    We need to start designing your banner. Please let me know what you want on it. Visit Connect! Unite! Act! to get an idea of how we use banners.

    • Follow Connect! Unite! Act! for Kossack event info • Follow Native American Netroots for American Indian History and News

    by navajo on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 06:35:27 PM PDT

  •  I've been through that lovely area, (3+ / 0-)

    but I've never lived there.  

       I hope to go through there again in either late summer or early fall, if I can get my funds together in time.  

    I have a trip planned where I go from where I'm at in Pullman WA to Flagstaff AZ to pick up my folks trailer and then off to Wisconsin to retrieve some of my stuff that I left behind when I moved to WA.  Also to sell/give away stuff I no longer want.  

    •  late summer/early fall pass-through (1+ / 0-)
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      navajo
      I hope to go through there again in either late summer or early fall, if I can get my funds together in time.  
      Heard. That.

      Do please kosmail me if/when you know what your plans are!

      ;-)

      "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

      by thanatokephaloides on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 08:10:14 PM PDT

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  •  Go get em! (4+ / 0-)

    I have to applaud your efforts!  Go get em!   The more organization of on the ground individuals we can get, the better off we are.

    Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle
    >Follow @tmservo433

    by Chris Reeves on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 07:50:20 PM PDT

    •  Pueblo (0+ / 0-)
      We are moving to Pueblo NEXT WEEK!
      Wow! Although Pueblo isn't the Pikes Peak Region, we're probably the closest Kossacks you'll have. (The Colorado COmmunity is based in the Denver Metro, about 100 miles North on I-25 from you. We're about 50 miles North of you, roughly halfway as far. )

      So I'll get you an invitation to join!

      "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

      by thanatokephaloides on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 11:05:31 PM PDT

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      •  Pueblo is one of three Democratic strongholds... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...in Colorado, along with Denver and Boulder.

        Colorado Springs is the epicenter of "conservatism". It's also a prime cautionary tale of the implementation of said conservatism. There for awhile they were begging citizens to go out and take care of the city's parks, and the CSPD had a list of crimes that they would not respond to, leaving victims to file reports online, if memory serves. All this because the FOXNews watchin' military retirees who settle there FLAT OUT REFUSE to vote for any form of tax increase, no matter how starved for funding police, fire, and every other department of city gov't become.

        In Colorado Springs, sadly, street lights are considered wasteful gov't spending.

        Progressives are functionally a persecuted yet feisty minority in Colorado Springs, while Pueblo's redness is sequestered in Pueblo West (a city taxation avoidance settlement that can't come up with the cash to repave its decrepit roads), and the other surrounding county communities. Pueblo proper is an old school labor union town, and the Democratic party there tends to reflect that heritage.

        Denver is an urban metropolis, and Boulder is an academic hippie town, so these three blue cities represent the dominant facets of the Democratic party, with the concordant ascendance and decline.


        "No, Bill. What's nuts is the fact that you think that's nuts." - Greenwald explaining Snowden to Bill Maher.

        by 3rdOption on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 04:22:58 AM PDT

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  •  Lived there for a decade (5+ / 0-)

    left around 2000, before things got truly whacked. But it was pretty far out, even then -- both politics and religion.

    Kinda the polar opposite of Boulder.

    •  Boulder's pretty cool. (2+ / 0-)
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      side pocket, thanatokephaloides

      I go above ten thousand feet, I pass out.

      Why I don't drive at those altitudes.

      Srsly, I pass out. Not a good thing if you're behind the wheel of a car.

      English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street. E. B. White

      by Youffraita on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 08:50:04 PM PDT

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      •  10,000 feet (1+ / 0-)
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        Boulder's pretty cool. I go above ten thousand feet, I pass out.

        Why I don't drive at those altitudes.

        Srsly, I pass out. Not a good thing if you're behind the wheel of a car.

        Boulder's only about 5600 feet. Colorado Springs is higher in altitude (6000 feet).

        But you'd best leave the driving to others if traveling to Leadville (10,152 feet downtown). You might want to look into supplemental oxygen as well (I now need it myself.)

        "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

        by thanatokephaloides on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 11:33:52 PM PDT

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        •  ... (2+ / 0-)

          I used to hike the Barr Trail pretty regularly, and I'd be moving pretty slowly by the time I got there (IIRC it starts at 6,800' and Barr Camp was 10,200' or so). Colorado Springs Municipal Airport/Peterson Field is at 6,172' above sea level.

          Flew into Leadville a few times at 9,990' MSL; it used to claim to be the highest attended airport in North America (and may still).

          There's a hypobaric chamber at Peterson (?sp) Field that the FAA arranges to send pilots to for hypoxia/altitude training (20,000' for civilians). I went with a bunch of Denver AirLifeLine pilots when I was in CoSpr, and had a lot more tolerance to the altitude. Everyone was different in their reactions, from catatonia to blue lips and fingernail beds to rocking back and forth.

        •  I don't pass out in Boulder (1+ / 0-)
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          OR in Denver. I pass out in the mountains...above ten thousand feet, as I said.

          English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street. E. B. White

          by Youffraita on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:54:03 PM PDT

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          •  H.A.W. Taboria (1+ / 0-)
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            I don't pass out in Boulder OR in Denver. I pass out in the mountains...above ten thousand feet, as I said.
            My point was that I myself came dangerously close to that in Leadville. I still remember the only time I visited the Tabor Opera House there. I was able to remain pretty OK so long as I didn't do anything strenuous.

            Also, my latest attempt to do anything at 9500 feet (near Florissant) didn't go any too well. Therefore, I was speaking in sympathy with your difficulties -- as I share them.

            :-)

            "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

            by thanatokephaloides on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 05:03:03 PM PDT

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            •  ;) (2+ / 0-)
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              thanatokephaloides, eyesoars

              OMG, ten thousand feet and I am out of it.

              Was reading today about a qualifying game for the World Cup played at twelve thousand feet in (I think) Bolivia, and all I could think of was altitude sickness.

              English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street. E. B. White

              by Youffraita on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 05:34:20 PM PDT

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    •  opposite of Boulder (2+ / 0-)
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      FindingMyVoice, eyesoars
      Lived there for a decade left around 2000, before things got truly whacked. But it was pretty far out, even then -- both politics and religion.

      Kinda the polar opposite of Boulder.

      One of the reasons I find myself in the position of creating the Pikes Peak Kossacks group is that my relatives and I date back to a day and age when Colorado Springs was at least as liberal a town as Boulder was at the same time. Most of this history happened before I was born, of course. My great-grandfather (father's grandfather) was one of the last El Paso County Commissioners elected as liberal Democrats. My mother's family only date back to just after World War II, but were active Democrats here back when there really was such a thing in the Pikes Peak Region.

      I'll have a Diary posted to the group next chance I get about the shift, why the shift occurred, and the parts I and mine played in it.

      "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

      by thanatokephaloides on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 11:30:10 PM PDT

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      •  Sad to hear... (1+ / 0-)
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        thanatokephaloides

        Some of my friends there used to tell me that there was a pretty good music scene in the Springs, but it collapsed in the mid/early '80s. Certainly there was very little by the time I got there; I had to travel to Denver or Boulder to see much.

        Focus on the Family and the Navigators and several other large religious organizations had moved in by the time I was there, so it was already well on its way to fundy craziness by 1990 or so.

        Between the religious crazies, who found the Academy Cadets ripe pickings, and the many, many military installations there, and the many retired military there, the local politics were entirely RW by the time I left. From what I hear, it has since gotten a lot worse.

  •  Even in the reddest areas, there are blue... (6+ / 0-)

    ...voters.

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 09:05:41 PM PDT

  •  Not there yet, but will be as soon as I retire :) (1+ / 0-)
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    thanatokephaloides

    Please let me know about the group -- DH & I will move to Woodland Park as soon as I retire at the end of this year (with luck).

    Thanks!!

    Comfort the afflicted. Afflict the comfortable.

    by FindingMyVoice on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 01:41:14 PM PDT

    •  the group (0+ / 0-)
      Not there yet, but will be as soon as I retire :)

      Please let me know about the group -- DH & I will move to Woodland Park as soon as I retire at the end of this year (with luck).

      First: about the group: What you see is what we've got so far. The Group is just now in the newborn phases. (We don't even have a group banner yet -- I'm still shopping around for a suitable one.)

      Next: I was slated to move to Woodland Park when I was in elementary school, but a complete wipe-out fire in the move there cashiered that hope, permanently. (It didn't prevent my first serious girlfriend from coming from there, though.)

      Do let me know if you want to join the group; you appear to qualify under the "significant interests here" idea.....

      :-)

      "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

      by thanatokephaloides on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:38:49 PM PDT

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  •  Count me in! (0+ / 0-)

    We moved here 20 years ago from Austin, so a bit of a culture shock and homesickness, but stayed for the climate, scenery, and abundance of outdoor activities.  I couldn't go back now and deal with the long, hot humid summers there.  We've raised two progressive kids here who will be finishing high school soon.

    I really like the large parks and open space and dog parks here.

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