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Senate Republicans once again showed their stellar values by filibustering a bill that would have cut corporate tax breaks for moving jobs overseas. That's right, Republicans are fighting to keep giving companies money to move jobs out of the United States:
"Today in the United States, any time an American company closes a factory or plant in America and moves operations to another country, the American taxpayers pick up part of that moving bill," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev. "Frankly, a vote against this bill is a vote against American jobs."

Republicans called the bill an election-year stunt. They noted that Democrats tried to pass a similar bill two years ago, right before the last congressional elections.

Okay, Republicans, let's say it's a stunt! It's a stunt that has now repeatedly revealed your desire to keep giving companies tax breaks for killing jobs in America. Are we supposed to see the "stunt" nature of bringing up a bill like this every two years or so as equivalent in moral bankruptcy to defending the existing crappy policy? How is this a political defense?

The bill would also have given tax breaks to companies that move their operations to the United States.

Originally posted to Daily Kos Labor on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 01:08 PM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Considering this topic, I find it ironic (5+ / 0-)
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    elwior, Oliver Tiger, ichibon, viral, rcass

    that the ad at the top of the page is one by terri lynn land slamming Gary Peters for outsourcing jobs.  Direct quote from the ad is "Gary Peters' record for outsourcing is a roadblock to Michigan jobs."

    A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

    by dougymi on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 01:34:41 PM PDT

  •  The republicans show their true colors with this (8+ / 0-)

    vote.

    "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

    by elwior on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 02:16:19 PM PDT

    •  I wish people would pay better attention (9+ / 0-)

      to how our so called Congressional representatives and Senators vote. Whatever they say is meaningless and that goes doubly for campaign commercials on corporate media.   It's what they do,  i. e,  how they vote,  that tells the real story.  In fact there is a handy dandy site put together by the folks who do Open Secrets that allows one to see and compare votes from Senators and Congressional representatives and see the votes and bills described in detail.

       Take Paul Ryan for example.   Ryan and the media that suck up to him carefully cultivate an image that he is a thoughtful moderate Republican,  particularly when it comes to his latest b.s. plan discussed ad nauseum.  The voting record tells us otherwise;  Paul Ryan is one of the most radically and rabid far right ideologues in Congress as demonstrated by a voting record that is 92 to 94 percent identical to people considered to be on the radical right fringe such as Michelle Bachmann and Steve King.

      The site is here.

      •  Sadly (4+ / 0-)

        While most Americans rate Congress as a whole worse than STDs, they always seem to give their elected representatives such high, individual, marks.  And, unfortunately, the RWFNJs only understand and believe the propaganda coming from hate radio and Murdoch/Ailes propaganda engine.  For them to actually use a site like OpenSecrets or OpenCongress, and then critically look at what's being voted on, against their best interests, would require an act of some deity on their part.

        I have friends, who all they do is publish Reich Wing talking points on Facebook, without looking to see what the other side is saying.  I've stopped trying to rebuttal their postings, but its like pissing in the wind.

        "Surrender!" "You wish to surrender to me? Very well, I accept"

        by ScooternjNG on Thu Jul 31, 2014 at 07:12:35 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Maybe Democrats need to WAKE UP... (2+ / 0-)
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        catdaddy1gg, Prickly Pam

        This vote needs to be publicized, this would make a great ad. Instead of thinking that voters will inform themselves, Dems need to keep pointing it out to the public.

    •  Like they haven't previously? (1+ / 0-)
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      elwior

      "If you're going to go down with the ship, make it a submarine." - Wayne Shorter

      by Oliver Tiger on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 05:39:41 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  The easiest way to show this is a stunt (9+ / 0-)

    is to call Reid's bluff and pass the bill. I wonder why they refuse to do that. /sarcasm.

    Why do I have the feeling George W. Bush joined the Stonecutters, ate a mess of ribs, and used the Constitution as a napkin?

    by Matt Z on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 02:25:57 PM PDT

  •  Opportunity knocked (2+ / 0-)
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    snwflk, opinionated

    and the Repugs were too dumb to open the door.

    Wow, they coulda told those pesky Dems ..... we stand up for the American worker but .............

    Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. Frank Zappa

    by Da Rock on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 02:56:10 PM PDT

  •  And how much play will this get in the (7+ / 0-)

    Media?

    Odds are . . .

    A drowning man can not learn to swim. -- Chris Lonsdale

    by Rikon Snow on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 04:02:23 PM PDT

    •  RS - very little because it's peanuts (2+ / 0-)
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      Scott in Tampa, nextstep

      The entire tax break for the whole country is $15-20 million per year. That's the CBOs estimate. Not for a company but for the entire country. This is solely about optics, not about tax policy or tax revenue. There aren't any "special" tax breaks for moving plant and equipment offshore. Moving equipment is an ordinary business expense and is deductible. The far bigger number is severance. Hopefully we won't push to eliminate that as a legitimate expense.

      "let's talk about that" uid 92953

      by VClib on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 10:15:30 PM PDT

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  •  We need to be rid of the filibuster -- please (6+ / 0-)

    note that corporation-loving democrats also get to hide behind the filibuster.

  •  Your Jobs and the BIG LIE (13+ / 0-)

    Every time you hear, “Mexicans are taking your jobs,” just remember that this statement, that I call “the big lie,” is coming from fascist corporations, and the politicians that these corrupt corporations support, who have been and are still getting tax write-offs for sending our jobs overseas and to Mexico.

    If they are so worried about our jobs being taken by illegal aliens, why are these fascist corporate thugs so against labor unions, the very entities that protect our jobs from non-union workers that undercut our pay, our retirement and medical benefits?

    Before the labor unions were weakened by Ronald Reagan and his Neo-Confederate brethren, the unions kicked off any workers on all jobs sites that were not union members.

    During the reign of Nazi Germany, Hitler’s propagandist, “Joseph Goebbels,” said, “tell the big lie often enough and people will believe it.”

    At this time, there hasn’t been more of an income gap between the rich and the poor, not since over a hundred years ago. When you hear the right wing’s propaganda machine telling us that their “right to work” nonsense is a good thing, which should be called, “right to be slaved via slave wages,” just remember that it’s the fat cat fascist corporations that this kind of hogwash is coming from.

    President Obama is trying to make a law that makes it so that corporations that keep our jobs and industry here in the United States will instead get the tax breaks, while our house speaker, “John Boehner,” constantly regurgitates his moronic question posed to the president, “where are the jobs, Mr. President?” Well, I’ll tell you where are jobs are, Mr. Boehner, they are where you and your Neo-con corporate buddies sent them, and that’s everywhere but the U.S.

    Being that John Boehner and all his right wing fascist cohorts are subsidized by the American pie hogging corporations, nothing that comes from their lie filled mouths should be believed by the American people. The Neo-cons, just like the Nazis did, appeal to the lowest common denominator among us, which is hate and bigotry.

    I appeal to the American citizenry, don’t let these fascist Neo-con pigs use you as puppets. Get wise to them and vote Democratic. Most importantly, VOTE!

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    by JohnnieZ on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 04:08:42 PM PDT

    •  3.2% (3+ / 0-)
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      Cmehta3, Sky Net, ichibon

      But national unemployment was 3.2% when Clinton left office.  Unemployment in my state is now 3.5%

      "states like VT and ID are not 'real america'" -icemilkcoffee

      by Utahrd on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 04:14:17 PM PDT

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    •  The unions have been in decline (5+ / 0-)
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      Utahrd, ozsea1, snwflk, ichibon, viral

      since the Red Scare of the 50s.  In those years, the AFL-CIO browbeat the internationals into canning all their best, most dedicated and selfless organizers, the ones who did so for the larger purpose of empowering workers.  Yes, some of them were Communists, what of it?  They certainly weren't gaining mass converts to their ideology, but they were effectively giving American working people the means to have more say, in the workplace and society as a whole.  

      By the time Reagan took office, union representation was only one half that of its peak in the early 50s.  The mobsters smelled the vacuum the expulsion of the "Reds" left, and rushed to fill that void.  They couldn't have cared less about the place of workers in American society, just to get their hands on the dues and pension funds.  Organization of new workers slowed  to a trickle, and a new coterie of law firms and "security" companies specializing in union-busting emerged to serve management's ends.  

      And the revanchism of the right began with the universal extinguishing of the (socialist) concept of solidarity, and its replacement with "the American way" of "rugged individualism".  The words of "Solidarity Forever" were forgotten "what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one" and taking an anti-union posture was swooned over as the act of a "ballsy real man".   Machismo was not just the enemy of women and gays, it undermined the position of the very working-class men that were encouraged to adopt it, and did.  

      Reagan and his team were just around to cash the checks of 30 years of sophisticated demoralization of the working class.  

      Pay no attention to the upward redistribution of wealth!

      by ActivistGuy on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 04:55:13 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Anecdotal evidence (3+ / 0-)
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    Cmehta3, viral, mikejay611

    I was a bit shocked by the relatively low cost of shipping my employer's manufacturing equipment, spare parts and raw materials to Asia.

    Even if the low costs associated with loading up a couple of containers for a backhaul route had no tax deduction associated with it, my employer would have done it anyway.

    The lower taxes from ongoing operations saved them more money than any additional tax from shipping the containers would cost them.

    "states like VT and ID are not 'real america'" -icemilkcoffee

    by Utahrd on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 04:18:04 PM PDT

    •  This is exactly right (1+ / 0-)
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      Utahrd

      This is exactly right

      •  This probably won't happen where you live (1+ / 0-)
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        ozsea1

        Where I live, the state employment development office is run by Republicans.  Like everything else here.

        The Republicans in the labor office were pretty mad at having to interrupt their games of Minesweeper to actually work with unemployed people.

        So they audited the employees that my employer did not lay off.  Someone had to unload the containers coming back from Asia with goods that used to be made in the US.  

        It was discovered that some of the remaining workers were using someone else's social security number.  So they were laid off, too.  But they were replaced by people with matching social security numbers within a week.

        "states like VT and ID are not 'real america'" -icemilkcoffee

        by Utahrd on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 05:08:48 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Lots of attack ads, all in a row (4+ / 0-)
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    Tronsix2, snwflk, viral, flavor411

    This should be hung around the neck of very Republican senator

    I have never been able to figure out if Fox is the propaganda arm of the Republican party or is the Republican Party the political subsidiary of Fox.

    by Dave from Oregon on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 04:30:07 PM PDT

  •  Only the GOP is allowed election-year stunts. (8+ / 0-)

    Let me remember some of my faves. . . .

    Suing the President

    Nominating Sarah Palin

    Raising NSA codes to Red just before election day

    Accusing Kay Hagan of atheism

    Hiring movie stars to argue with empty chairs

    Rafalca

  •  I'd be willing to bet (1+ / 0-)
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    Oliver Tiger

    that the proponents of this position can legitimately clain "bipartisan support".  That those "pragmatic, centrist" Dems that we are constantly informed are ever-so-indispensable to the interests of working Americans are tucked right in with the Rubes.  I'd love to be wrong, but I doubt it.

    Pay no attention to the upward redistribution of wealth!

    by ActivistGuy on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 05:03:27 PM PDT

  •  If an American company.. (6+ / 0-)

    If an American company sells their products in America, makes money off of America, yet manufactures them in some other country, that company should have to pay taxes at 1960's rates.  Because if they're not going to give back to this country in terms of employment, they should damn well have to give back in taxes. That's the least penalty they should pay for their economic treason.

    •  I agree. (3+ / 0-)
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      Mike Kahlow, mikejay611, dewolf99

      And if Walgreens moves offshore, the government shouldn't let them fill american's prescriptions that are paid by Medicare or Medicaid.
      And the American people need to boycott them.
      They still use our infrastructures like our roads, ect.
      I am am moving my scripts to another pharmacy if they do this.
      And yes, the damned filibuster needs to be fixed.
      When it it isn't, that makes the Dems complicit in the the GOP's actions.  

      Barack Obama has made a cottage industry out of negotiating with himself, prostrating himself before the big donors and generally allowing himself to be rolled by the Republicans. This is who he is and this is what he does.

      by snoopydawg on Thu Jul 31, 2014 at 12:45:39 AM PDT

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  •  Anti-American traitors (4+ / 0-)
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    flavor411, snoopydawg, mmacdDE, mikejay611

    If you don't want to pay your share of taxes - we don't need you in America. We have enough freeloaders here in the form of politicians and lazy 1% "entitlement queens". Walgreen's - please leave. Shut your damn doors. You don't want to pay your share of taxes, you don't deserve to do business here.

  •  "Election year stunt?" Then let's see the Rethu... (0+ / 0-)

    "Election year stunt?"

    Then let's see the Rethugs pass this legislation in an off- year.

    Yeah, right...

  •  Reoublicans are Economic Traitors (0+ / 0-)

    for all to see.

    "The Democrats and the Republicans are equally corrupt where money is concerned. It's only in the amount where the Republicans excel." ~ Will Rogers

    by Lefty Coaster on Thu Jul 31, 2014 at 12:45:06 AM PDT

  •  This is the kind of punch that the GOP can't (1+ / 0-)
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    dewolf99

    defend easily.  Telling the truth about this vote near and wide to educate voters is a slam dunk.  We must get every group of our voters out to vote to get rid of these destructive anti-government pro-1%'ers.

  •  it's the Democrats fault (1+ / 0-)
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    mikejay611

    for not making election-year ads about real issues like this. Where are the ads??? These are real politicians with real votes against US jobs. Where.Are.The.Ads... geez.

  •  *** (0+ / 0-)

    In•ver•sion inˈvərZHən (n): the act of using tax dollars to build a multi-million dollar corporation & moving HQ overseas to avoid taxes.

  •  Dear Republicans (0+ / 0-)

    its come to this, we'll take a stunt, a sham, a bit of theater, a ploy, a posture-as long as it ends up getting something positive done.

    But don't let us delay your next "serious" vote to defund Acorn. Benghazi! Torro! Torro! Torro!

  •  A "Stunt?" (1+ / 0-)
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    renzo capetti

    So it's a "stunt" to stand up for the people and for jobs?

    So THAT explains why the Republicans never bring forth jobs bills or other legislation that actually helps American people!!

    Suing the President, over delaying implementation of a law you wanted to repeal "root and branch" in the first place??  Oh hell no, THAT isn't a stunt...no, not at all...

  •  RICO the whole bunch and give us their/loot (0+ / 0-)

    decent wages don't eliminate jobs. Republicans eliminate jobs; and workers, and prospects, and then excuse it all and call for more austerity. there is no end to their ignorant, arrogant avarice. only political dinosaurs support their treachery.

    by renzo capetti on Fri Aug 01, 2014 at 12:45:16 PM PDT

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