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Local news is reporting that a Harmful Algae Bloom has contaminated the water in Lake Erie. This algae has released certain chemicals including Microcystin, a deadly cyanotoxin too small to be filtered using normal water treatment techniques.

DO NOT BOIL WATER. BOILING WATER WILL ONLY INCREASE THE CONCENTRATION OF MICROCYSTIN IN YOUR WATER, as the toxin is completely unaffected by heat, and as the water will boil away, the toxin will remain. DO NOT COOK with this water, it will only make the water more toxic.

The toxin attacks the liver, causing vomiting, diarrhea, dizziness, and numbness. Skin contact with contaminated water can cause a rash.

In some people, it can create a sensation similar to being drunk.

The good news:

Current detected levels of the toxin are so low that the local government is saying that healthy adults can wash their hands, and shower, but children should be supervised to guarantee that they do not consume any of the water.

Personally, I would not be showering today if I lived in the area, just to be on the safe side.

Toilets are fine to use.

Why is this happening?

The Algae Bloom was likely caused by industrial or agricultural runoff. Nitrates, such as fertilizer, can create a fertile soup that causes algae blooms. Global warming and the resulting higher temperature has been proven to increase the reproductive rate of cyanotoxin producing algae.

List of Affected Areas
ALL of Lucas County
Perrysburg Township
Bedford Township
Troy Township
Lake Township
Ottawa Hills
Erie Township
Village of Metamora
Eastern Swan Creek Township
Village of Whitehouse
Luna Pier
La Salle Township
Springfield Township
Sylvania Township
South County Water Customers - Michigan
News Reports:

Originally posted to Writing by Will McLeod: A Better World is Possible on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 08:43 AM PDT.

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  •  Thanks for this public service, OG. If the (19+ / 0-)

    Ohioans come deep enough into MI to buy bottled water we can watch the MI capitalists carry on their water price wars.  Gas stations in Toledo must already be hiking their gas prices to sting those driving out of the area for water.  This is a big deal for the "makers" and water hoarders.  But Ohioans should not go to Detroit because the water has been shut off there.

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    by judyms9 on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 09:01:38 AM PDT

  •  Portions of Fulton County, OH now included (31+ / 0-)

    Map here:

    Also, boiling the water will not only NOT destroy the toxins — it will increase the concentration of the toxins.

    Also, more info here:

    WTOL Toledo has issued Facebook updates that say it's okay for adults to shower, to do laundry, and brush teeth if you don't swallow any water.

    The city of Toledo will be providing one case of bottled water per family at Waite High School and Central Catholic High school.

    Mayor of Toledo speaking live:

    Mayor speaking now - WATCH:

    Also, Oregon (OH)Fire Departments are filling water jugs for people who bring their own containers. If you need some - go there.

    The city‘‍s plant provides treatment services to an area of approximately 400,000 people across 100 square miles.

    Here's a map of the 3 Oregon fire stations providing free water if you bring your own container. They are at 5002 Seaman Rd., 1102 S. Wheeling St and 4421 Bayshore Rd.

    If I come across info on free water in Michigan (or places to fill your own jugs) I'll update.

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    by Desi on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 09:06:54 AM PDT

  •  You said: (23+ / 0-)
    Why is this happening?

    The Algae Bloom was likely caused by industrial or agricultural runoff.

    Industrial wastewater discharges are absolutely irrelevant to this problem.   Agriculture is the overwhelming contributor to this problem, followed by effluent from municipal wastewater trreatment plants.
    Nitrates, such as fertilizer, can create a fertile soup that causes algae blooms.
    While nitrates are necessary to promote growth of  cyanobacteria and algae formation, nitrates are not the principle reason for the algae formation in the western Lake Erie basin and the cause of the present problem.  Instead, ortho phosphorus in the water is the primary cause of both the current problem specifically and chronic algae formation in the western Lake Erie basin.
    Global warming and the resulting higher temperature has been proven to increase the reproductive rate of cyanotoxin producing algae.
    Global warming does not have anything to do with the causation of either the presently occurring problem or the general problem of Lake Erie water quality deterioration from algae.
    •  What is the layman's version ? (2+ / 0-)
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      Can you describe the easy version of the cause and effect here ?  You seem to know the facts but I can't entirely follow.

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      by yet another liberal on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 09:31:10 AM PDT

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    •  good to know (2+ / 0-)
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      but how can there be a change in wastewater treatment?

    •  What's the Source of Ortho Phosphate? nt (9+ / 0-)

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      by Gooserock on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 09:42:05 AM PDT

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    •  when (2+ / 0-)
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      Any idea when the water restriction can be lifted?

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      by melvynny on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 09:42:54 AM PDT

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    •  While climate change cannot be (11+ / 0-)

      specifically linked to this one incident, research has shown that it is a contributing factor worldwide to the increase of such outbreaks.


      Global temperature is expected to rise throughout this century, and blooms of cyanobacteria in lakes and estuaries are predicted to increase with the current level of global warming. The potential environmental, economic and sanitation repercussions of these blooms have attracted considerable attention among the world’s scientific communities, water management agencies and general public. Of particular concern is the worldwide occurrence of hepatotoxic cyanobacteria posing a serious threat to global public health. Here, we highlight plausible effects of global warming on physiological and molecular changes in these cyanobacteria and resulting effects on hepatotoxin production. We also emphasize the importance of understanding the natural biological function(s) of hepatotoxins, various mechanisms governing their synthesis, and climate-driven changes in food-web interactions, if we are to predict consequences of the current and projected levels of global warming for production and accumulation of hepatotoxins in aquatic ecosystems.

      This is the very type of outbreak that is occurring in Lake Erie:

      A bloom of harmful cyanobacteria has grown in Lake Erie’s western basin, according to the latest bulletin released today by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. The bloom is concentrated in Maumee Bay, while a separate and smaller bloom has appeared in Sandusky Bay. As part of our ongoing coverage of toxic algal blooms in the Great Lakes, which shut down a public water supply system for the first time last fall, we are creating a space to bring together a range of available maps and data to track the progression of these blooms.

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      by Steven D on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 09:46:13 AM PDT

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      •  The only physical mechanism by which (5+ / 0-)
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        global warming could possibly affect a water quality system is only through an increase in water temperatures.  

        But no such changes in water temperature have the potential to have anywhere near the influence on the problem as the fundamental problem trigger of aqueous phosphorus concentrations and the phosphorus effluents causing these problems.

        While it is well known that cyanobacteria propagate to the highest degree during the summer because of water temperatures, that does not mean that changes in summertime water temperatures brought on by global warming will have have an influence on the problem anywhere close to the influence of the actual phosphorus concentrations in surface waters.

        •  In other words, solving global warming problems (7+ / 0-)

          could never solve the Western Lake Erie algae water quality problem.   The only solution to that problem is limiting phosphorus effluents.

        •  You said climate change could not possibly be (4+ / 0-)
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          a factor.

          Experts apparently disagree with you.

          I'm not claiming it is the sole factor.  Just as climate change is a factor is food shortages or drought but not the sole factor.

          You on the other hand said it has nothing to do with what's happening in Lake Erie.  Well, I point you to studies that indicate it is likely to lead to increased outbreaks while stating that we cannot say whether climate change played a role in this specific outbreak.

          In essence you are arguing with a straw man of your own creation.

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          by Steven D on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 10:35:03 AM PDT

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          •  He really didn't say that, (2+ / 0-)
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            at least by my understanding. What he did say is that phosphorus runoff is a much more important factor than water temperature.

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            by northsylvania on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 10:49:47 AM PDT

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          •  Global warming has nothing to do with current (1+ / 0-)
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            problems with algae formation in Lake Erie, especially with current cool summer conditions in the Great Lakes area when we've had virtually no 90 degree weather for most of the summer so far

            Nothing you've posted is evidence that global warming caused the present algae formation in Western Lake Erie and Maumee Bay.  As a result, you've posted nothing saying that "experts apparently disagree with you."  In order to do that you would have to show convincingly that an increase in average temperature in Lake Erie presently was caused by global warming during this unusually cool summer in the Great Lakes region with few 90 degree days.  Then you would have to show that such a small temperature increase would have an effect that was commensurate with an effect on algae formation associated with changes in phosphorus concentrations.  

            However, Lake Erie is not a vast heat reservoir in the manner of the oceans of the earth and Lake Erie regularly freezes in the wintertime.   The prospect of showing that global warming caused even a few degrees of temperature change in Lake Erie is remote....and any such temperature change effect is going to be dwarfed by the effect of variable phosphorus concentrations in the Western Lake Erie water column.

            •  I never said (3+ / 0-)
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              you could link climate change to this specific event.  So you are arguing with yourself.

              However I note that the largest outbreak on record in 2011 was linked to a season of heavy rains which increased runoff of agricultural fertilizer runoff and that event was linked to climate change.

              A changing climate is not just about increased temperatures locally or globally, but also about the consequences of those increased temperatures which include increased precipitation in certain regions.

              I suggest you look at this comment:


              regarding the 2011 algae bloom (the worst on record in Lake Erie) and the study of that event by Dr. Michalak of Stanford.

              Now I'm finished with you.

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              by Steven D on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 11:05:46 AM PDT

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              •  Where did you get your "worst on record in Lake (4+ / 0-)

                Erie" claim?   2011 water quality conditions in Lake Erie were not worse than the conditions of Lake Erie with eutrophication in the 1950s and 1960s when the entire Western Lake Erie basin experienced massive oxygen-deprived dead zones from algae-driven eutrophication.

                There is no way that heavy preciptation to cause algae formation absent the presence of reactive phosphorus and nitrogen contained in that runoff.

                A changing climate is not just about increased temperatures locally or globally, but also about the consequences of those increased temperatures which include increased precipitation in certain regions.
                Since the Great Lakes region is experiencing an unusually cool summer with very little 90+ degree weather, there is no basis for saying that past heating of Lake Erie by global warming caused the present problem.
              •  Weather vs climate (1+ / 0-)
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                It seems you may have gotten caught up in the common problem of attributing local weather (more rain, heavier rain, higher temps, or whatever) to global climate change.

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                by Catte Nappe on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 12:50:21 PM PDT

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            •  Would the rain patterns in the region be enough (0+ / 0-)

              to cause this effect?

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              by bkamr on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 01:33:06 PM PDT

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          •  I note (2+ / 0-)
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            that the toxic algae bloom on record in Lake Erie occurred in 2011.


            In the summer of 2011, western Lake Erie turned a noxious green, as a massive algae bloom coated the surface and lapped up in mats along the shore. At its peak, the bloom covered an area 2.5 times larger than that of any Erie bloom on record, according to a study published today (April 1) in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

            Several factors converged to cause the bloom and may increasingly do so in the future, said Anna Michalak, a study co-author and researcher at the Carnegie Institution for Science at Stanford University. [...]

            Perhaps more importantly, runoff was made worse by explosive spring storms in 2011, which dropped a lot of rain in a very short period of time and washed the fertilizer away, Michalak said. In the lake, above-average temperatures also nourished the algae. Furthermore, a lack of strong winds prevented the lake from being mixed up, which normally makes algae sink to the bottom and brings low-lying water up to the surface, she said.

            Unfortunately for Lake Erie, climate change is expected to lead to larger spring storms, warmer temperatures and fewer strong winds in the future, Michalak said. Dealing with climate change on a global level, then, could have an important local effect, she said.

            Now we have another serious outbreak. not to mention a series of less significant outbreaks in Ohio's surface water systems in the past 4 years.  


            Obviously getting farmers to stop using chemical fertilizers would be the best way to prevent these outbreaks, but I don't see that happening anytime soon, do you?  Just as obviously, scientists who study these cyanobacterial blooms do state that climate change is a factor.

            Perhaps you'd like to take up your position that global warming is not a factor with Dr. Anna Michalak the co-author of the above study.  

                Anna Michalak
                Department of Global Ecology
                Carnegie Institution for Science
                260 Panama St.
                Stanford, CA 94305


            Her curriculum vitae is here:


            You seem to be saying that she doesn't know what she's talking about.  Maybe you can convince her of the error of her ways, though I doubt it.

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            by Steven D on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 10:57:08 AM PDT

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            •  You said: (3+ / 0-)
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              Obviously getting farmers to stop using chemical fertilizers would be the best way to prevent these outbreaks, but I don't see that happening anytime soon, do you?
              Now you're trying to sell the idea that it is only 'chemical fertilizers' that are the problem for agricultural effluents of nitrogen and phosphorus, and that proposition is nonsense, and your claim is not "obvious."
              Just as obviously, scientists who study these cyanobacterial blooms do state that climate change is a factor.
              Making that claim that cyanobacteria and algae formation has some temperature dependency is not a claim that "climate change" caused or contributed to the present problem, especially during our present cool summer.

              Stopping global climate change will never clean up the Lake Erie algae problem.   The only solution to this problem is watershed phosphorus and nitrate effluent reduction from agricultural lands and from municipalities.  '

              There is no global warming cessation solution to the western Lake Erie algae problem and pretending like there is water quality stewardship malpractice.

              Back in the 1950s-1960s, the eutrophication of western Lake Erie and algae problems were much, much worse than they are today and for many years after control actions were taken on the City of Detroit Wastewater treatment plant and others, Lake Erie did not have extensive summer algae formation in the manner we're having now.  Global warming didn't cause that cleanup effect and it isn't the cause of the present algae problems of western Lake Erie either.....especially during our present uncharacteristically cool summer in the Great Lakes region.

          •  Impossible to Argue With This One (1+ / 0-)
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            They ignore evidence and logic that might soften their absolutist positions, while throwing around jargon like an expert but ignoring other experts. I usually just state my case and disengage, because otherwise it quickly becomes too frustrating to bother. They never accept any changes, and their explanations are studded with enough slanted info and bad logic that it's not enlightening.

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            by DocGonzo on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 02:55:14 PM PDT

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        •  You don't think inreased rainfall (3+ / 0-)
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          affects the algae growth? It would seem to carry quite a bit of fertilizer components into the tributaries.

        •  Nah, more frequent downpours and feast or famine (1+ / 0-)
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          precipitation would do it, right?

          And that's a feature of AGW, correct?

          I could totally see the extremes in weather from AGW jostling loose more of these formerly stable-ish black swans.

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          by k9disc on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 03:18:24 PM PDT

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        •  Changing in intensity of precip (3+ / 0-)

          The other mechanism through which global warming can change the amount of effluent is through increasing the number of intense rainstorms.  

          Global warming has manifested as a relatively intense warming of the lower troposphere, a less intense warming of the mid-trop and lower stratospheric cooling.  This offers two mechanisms for increased convection, that is, the increased probability/extent of precipitation ultimately driven by sharp lapse rates (temperature falls as altitude increases).  

          The first mechanism is simply the increase in lapse rates.  A high lapse rate is required for convection (thunderstorms in the warm season, lake-enhanced and thundersnow in the cold season)

          The second MAY be a rise in the altitude of the stratopause, or the boundary between the troposphere and the stratosphere.  The troposphere in warmed by radiation from reflected sunlight;  its heat source is actually the Earth's surface, and temperatures fall with increasing altitude.  The stratosphere's main heat source is the energy generated by the creation and destruction of ozone triggered by sunlight;  temperatures in the lower stratosphere increase with elevation.  

          This means that the stratopause serves as an upper bound for the development of convection.  It is near the anvil layer of thunderstorms.  

          Taller thunderstorms are generally stronger thunderstorms.  

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          by Yamaneko2 on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 03:18:29 PM PDT

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      •  the problem of lack of scientific literacy: (10+ / 0-)

        What you said should immediately make sense to anyone with a decent grasp of scientific method.

        People need to understand this:  A given cause can have the effect of producing a statistical increase in a given consequence, but individual instances of that consequence can't be conclusively attributed to the cause.

        Example:  A toxic waste discharge into a water supply causes an increase in the number of cases of a certain type of cancer.  Yet no individual case of cancer can be uniquely attributed to the toxic waste, because there was already a low level of the same cancer occurring in the population, and the polluter can argue that this or that individual case was part of the background cancer rate.

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        by G2geek on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 11:11:31 AM PDT

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    •  See the upper Sassafras River, in Maryland, (5+ / 0-)

      For the blue green algae capital of the mid Atlantic.

      Over fertilization and rural septic systems. In some cases. No septic systems.

      Phosphorus is a major contributor to algae growth.

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      by dadadata on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 10:56:10 AM PDT

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    •  Completely right in your analysis (3+ / 0-)
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      This is a non-point source pollution problem, and industry has nothing to do with it. Industry is going to have pretreatment requirements that remove any contaminants that the local POTW can not handle. Also, storm runoff generated on industrial or manufacturing sites is managed under by the NPDES permit process. Nope we can't blame business for this one.

      Also 100% right about Global Warming not being a significant contributing factor. I guess if you could prove that Global Warming caused a reduction in the volumes of the surface water receiving bodies, than of course the concentrations of phosphorous in solution are going to be higher. The reduced volumes also means that the waters warm faster which I guess would move the blooms up seasonally speaking.  Anyway, it is complicated with multiple variables and tradeoffs. More runoff equals higher lake and reservoir levels - meaning more water and lower concentrations of phosphorous with all things being equal (which they are not).

      By the way, the lakes and reservoirs are far more likely to lose capacity and thus volume by sedimentation (some due to development, some due to forestry activities, some due to agriculture and some natural, etc.) and overwhelmingly by eutrophication than to lose volume by lowered levels due to evaporation from a small increase in ambient temperatures.

      With regards to who is primarily at fault - you should probably look at your neighbors. Lawn fertilizer is particularly bad. Phosphates in detergents used to wash cars or clean decks or whatever. Not timely picking up and properly disposing your pets waste. Agriculture and husbandry have been the focus of Best Management Practices for over 30 years by USEPA and USDA and those efforts have largely been tremendously successful. It was a tough sell to some family farmers who had been doing things the same way for years and years their own way, but when USEPA went to the farmers and told them to plow their fields in a different direction or to try a different crop rotation, they went there with reps from USDA to help the farmers maintain their yields to make sure that the change in practice wouldn't hurt them economically (often with financial guarantees provided by USDA to back it up). So while there is always going to be some nutrient loading due to agricultural activities, there is a pretty good handle at managing that impact.

      So if we have made great strides with regards to nutrient loadings due to the widespread acceptance of Best Management Practices in agriculture and industrial pretreatment requirements, why - you ask - are we seemingly losing the battle? Well we are not. See the water quality in the Chesapeake Bay, the Delaware and Hudson Rivers, the Great Lakes - it has gotten better almost everywhere compared to the 1970's and 1980's because of Best Management Practices and the almost universal requirement for industrial pretreatment.

      But it is still a battle because humans like living near water and when you develop near water you are either outright whacking some wetlands or reducing the hydraulic and buffer efficiency of the wetlands that remain downstream post development. And more homes near the water equals more lawns fertilized nearer the water. It equals more pet waste nearer the receiving water bodies. It means more impervious surface and shorter Times of Concentration for surface runoff during precipitation events. Now a lot of local municipalities and conservation districts are doing their best to mitigate the impacts of development, but you know what - a detention basin built by a developer in a couple weeks is not as good as a wetland that took hundreds of thousands of years to reach its operating efficiency. Detention basins can actually become their own particular kind of problem since the nutrient loadings associated with small precipitation events tend to be completely captured, only to be discharged in a slug when a larger precipitation event occurs. Now some low flow channels in basins are cleaned periodically, but that requires effort and manpower on a local level and that equates to taking up a chunk of the public works department's budget. Some localities are now requiring the use of sand filters, or other stormwater pretreatment measures (swirl concentrator or similar) prior to discharge into basins and this is a good step forward. A commitment from public works is also necessary to maintain these measures, but when properly maintained these things are generally great at improving water quality.  

      Combined Sewer Overflow (CSO) is a contributing factor, but it is one that is largely mitigated due to dilution. Specifically, for the overflow to occur (i.e. for the untreated discharge to occur) you are going to have a pretty large storm event that is going to dilute the nutrient loading. Such a storm event can also lower surface water body temperatures rather rapidly which is generally antithetical to algal growth. Also large storm events tend to drastically change flow conditions within surface water bodies which also limits algal growth.

      A commitment to eliminating all CSOs is a public infrastructure investment that this country needs, but I can never see it happening in this political climate. It would be absolutely great for local economies (so many jobs on a project this size, typically using local products from pipe to stone to paving to curbing, etc.), but it would take a commitment (i.e. money) from Federal, State and local governments. I just can't see it happening at anytime in the near or far future.

  •  Heavy visible phytoplankton/algae visible (12+ / 0-)

    in both western Lake Erie and in the southern part of Lake St. Clair on the Canadian border with Michigan and Ohio:

    NASA MODIS Platform satellite imagery from 07/31/2014

    Look at the extreme top of this image, to the right of the center to see Lake Erie.

  •  Astounding (11+ / 0-)

    That a country with a "Clean Water Act," would allow agricultural run-off to the extent that a lake the size of Erie could be poisoned. Could this be an enforcement problem? Oh F- it, we don't want no stinking government regulation, this is Ohio, land of freedom...

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    by KJG52 on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 09:38:05 AM PDT

  •  WHO article on microcystin (6+ / 0-)

    Most of the common microcystin variants are well removed by activated carbon (Hart et al 1998; UKWIR 1996; Cook and Newcombe 2002). The exception is microcystin LA which is not readily removed and other processes are recommended
    So ... sounds to me like the LA variant is what's in the water. Trying to find out.
    •  I wondered if any filtration would work. (0+ / 0-)

      Seems like reverse osmosis would do it, but obviously you can't supply a municipal water system with it on short notice.  Might solve individual drinking water needs though.

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      by Delta Overdue on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 01:11:39 PM PDT

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  •  Today's Water testing results... (3+ / 0-)
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    Due at 7:30pm per WTOL.

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    by Desi on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 10:19:21 AM PDT

  •  I have tried to post (3+ / 0-)
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    this diary to fb and it is not showing up  I finally cut and pasted and it shows up on my page but not my feed.  I live on Lake Erie for x's sake and I want people to know this.  It apparently isn't here but the let the panic begin. fb sucks.

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    by tobendaro on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 10:30:15 AM PDT

  •  We're having similar issues around here as well. (3+ / 0-)
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    It's from ag runoff from a really wet spring and things slowing down and warming up now.  We've been told that we need to be careful around slow moving water areas and not to 'drink' open river/lake water.

  •  Yeah, it's a chronic and alarming problem. (8+ / 0-)

    I proposed a panel for NN this year about this very topic, affecting as it does not only Lake Erie but also the Chesapeake Bay and other important waterways. Unfortunately, it didn't make the cut.
    I'm sorry it's so topical once again.

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    by peregrine kate on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 11:28:12 AM PDT

  •  Does this problem affect fish, amphibians (4+ / 0-)
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    and wildlife?

  •  Texted Warnings (5+ / 0-)
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    I get emergency weather alerts on my phone. Does Ohio send out such alerts about drinking water? It should. If it doesn't, how are most people supposed to know not to drink water in the middle of Summer?

    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

    by DocGonzo on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 12:23:19 PM PDT

  •  Important, effective Michigan citizen group (3+ / 0-)
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    Sylv, ladybug53, BeninSC

    addressing large concentrated animal feeding operations, their land spreading operations and effects on area-wide water quality in the Maumee River - Western Lake Erie watershed.

    Here are the reasons why this group is highly effective:

    1. They are firmly reality-based and their work is an exercise in science-based conservation stewardship, not some kind of environmental marketing campaign meme-making machine like so many environmental groups have become.

    2.  They've gained a detailed understanding of the rules of the road as to what requirements are in effect and what plans get approved as to the subject of their environmental enforcement targeting.

    3.  A substantial portion of the group's work involves conducting water quality sampling and testing of area watercourses and photography and video of the environmental management conduct of several large CAFO operations located in the area.   They are conducting an environmental enforcement operation as their primary organizational operational activity.

    4.  They maintain focus and are persistent at it in a group that has been operating for several years and even produced a McArthur Foundation awardee.

    5.  Last, but not least, the group regularly communicates with Michigan Department of Environmental Quality field staff locally, and MDEQ listens to what this group has to say because of their systematic efforts at scientific credibility in how they operate means that their stewardship activities are recognized by environmental regulators.  

  •  Report outlining causes and solutions. (4+ / 0-)
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    International Joint Commission Report

    This is the kind of issue that can resonate with the voters of Michigan and Ohio.  We all want clean water and this kind of emergency is bad for the economy and jobs.

    I'm kind of tired of walking on rotting algae muck along the beach.

  •  Update on where to get water, MI and OH (6+ / 0-)

    The city of Toledo will distribute emergency water at the following locations and times:

    5:00 P.M.

    - Central Catholic High School, 2250 Cherry Street, Toledo, Ohio 43608

     - Waite High School, 301 Morrison Drive, Toledo, Ohio 43605

    6:00 P.M.

    - Woodward High School, 701 East Central Avenue, Toledo, OH 43608

    - Springfield High School, 1470 South McCord Rd, Holland, OH 43528

    Water stations that are open now are:

    - Oregon Fire Department Station #1 located at 5002 Seaman Rd (closing at 9 p.m. Saturday)

    - Oregon Fire Department Station #2 located at 1102 S. Wheeling St (closing at 9 p.m. Saturday)

    - Oregon Fire Department Station #3 located at 4421 Bayshore Rd (closing at 6 p.m. Saturday)

    All three Oregon fire stations will distribute water again from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. Sunday

    - Village of Whitehouse Fire Department located at 10550 Waterville Street

    - The Lake Township fire station at 1911 Ayers Rd in Millbury will fill up containers for free.

    - The Jerusalem Township Fire Station at 9501 Jerusalem Road in Jerusalem Township is also filling up containers of water for free.

    Water available for purchase:

    - The Walgreens warehouse in Perrysburg is restocking all area Walgreens stores with water

    - The Meijer on Alexis Road is getting water shipments

    - Meijer in Rossford got water in and more is on its way.

    - Save A Lot on Monroe/Detroit just restocked with cases of bottled water. Limit 5/customer

    - Walmart located at 1815 in Napoleon, OH is getting 25 pallets of water delivered right now.

    - Community Market in Delta - $1.50/case – Limit of 4

    - Mark with Swanton Creek Water District says - Come get some water! Township building on Country Rd. D and 5-2. Swanton F.D. has water too.

    - Water available: Fresh water well at Our Lady of Toledo Shrine in Oregon.655 S. Coy Road, one block north of Navarre Ave. Anyone welcome.

    - There is now free bottled water at the Bedford Township hall, according to County Commissioners

    - Royal Auto Finance at Lewis and Laskey is giving away free bottled water until 7:30 tonight

    -Gordon's Food Services on Navarre in Oregon - they water for sale: 35 packs for $6. Nicely done, guys.

    -Kroger at Alexis and Jackman in Toledo has 2 semi trucks full of bottled water

    -Walmart in Glendale has gallon jugs of water coming off a truck now

    -Near Pemberville? 17454 Aufderstrasse Rd. Bring your own jugs - and fill up on well water if you NEED to.

    City of Monroe Water Department and Frenchtown Water Department are assisting residents in Monroe County impacted by the water emergency by distributing potable water. They have established water filling stations to allow residents to obtain potable water at the following locations:

    Ida Township Hall
    3016 Lewis Ave​
    Ida, MI 48140

    Manufacturer's Market Place/Hardwood Plaza (North of McDonald's)
    14930 LaPlaisance Road
    Monroe, MI 48161

    Frenchtown Water Plant
    5300 North Dixie Hwy
    Monroe, MI 48162

    Residents must bring their own containers to  fill. Prior to use, residents are encouraged to boil the water if the containers are not considered potable.

    "We're from the government, and we're here to help." Diane(Desi)Sweet

    by Desi on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 04:43:23 PM PDT

  •  Never seen this problem at this level of severi... (2+ / 0-)
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    BeninSC, DuzT

    Never seen this problem at this level of severity even in the 60s and 70s before phosphates were banned in detergent. The lake was getting cleaner. What's different now? Factory farming. Let's be honest. This is the price of meat eating. Stop coddling big ag.

    •  I do not know if the problem you identify is (0+ / 0-)

      the primary cause of this problem, humandecency, but it sounds quite plausible. I am glad it was announced, for the safety of residents in affected areas, and I am glad a spotlight is being shown on the problem.

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      by BeninSC on Sun Aug 03, 2014 at 05:37:03 AM PDT

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  •  Thankfully, I'm far upriver of this. (0+ / 0-)

    For those who don't know, Northwest Ohio is one of the few places where being southward of a water event is being "upriver."

    Thanks for the update on what's happening north of me, regardless.  Always best to learn these sorts of things now rather than later, and I'm glad the military is stepping in to help, no matter how much that might say about our current infrastructure issues.

    "You are not stupid. You are important. You mean something, and you're going to go out there and you're going to do some wonderful things." Justin Carmical

    by Anjana on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 09:19:56 PM PDT

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