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Paul Rosenberg at Salon writes False facts and the conservative distortion machine: It’s much more than just Fox News. An excerpt:

Citizens are misinformed — often badly so. It’s not just that they lack good information — which would merely make them uninformed — they have plenty of bad information that leads them to believe untrue things. Or more likely the other way around: They believe untrue things, and that leads them to collect — even invent — bad information to flesh out what they already believe.

This was vividly illustrated by a 1991 study that found that the more people watched TV during the first Gulf War, the less they knew about fundamental issues and facts, even as they were more likely to support the war. Wanting to believe that the U.S. was involved in a noble cause, for example, only 13 percent knew that when Iraq first threatened to invade Kuwait, the U.S. said it would take no action, while 65 percent falsely “knew” that the U.S. said it would support Kuwait militarily.

Paul Rosenberg
Paul Rosenberg
But the problem is hardly limited to this one example, or to issues of war and peace more generally. Misinformation in public life isn’t the exception, it’s the rule, and researchers have been grappling with that fact, and its implications, for some time now. A new study published in Social Science Quarterly employs a “knowledge distortion index” and looks at two competing explanations for why this is so — one more top-down, the other more bottom-up — using three Washington state initiatives from the 2006 general election cycle to examine the dynamics of what is going on in this particular sort of political environment.

The study, “How Voters Become Misinformed: An Investigation of the Emergence and Consequences of False Factual Beliefs,” found that “voters’ values and partisanship had the strongest associations with distorted beliefs, which then influenced voting choices. Self-reported levels of exposure to media and campaign messages played a surprisingly limited role,” despite the presence of significantly mistaken “facts,” which were used to help construct the knowledge distortion index.

“Two of the competing theories on how people analyze political issues and develop factual beliefs are heuristics and cultural cognition,” the study’s lead author, Justin Reedy, told Salon. “Both of these theories recognize that citizens can develop distorted factual beliefs because of their political views, but they disagree about how those distortions might happen. Heuristics researchers generally think that citizens have limited attention for politics and try to process information quickly and efficiently.”
This is the more top-down approach, as we’ll soon see.

“People who are fairly politically knowledgeable can figure out whether political information and factual claims match up with their own ideology or not — and therefore whether they should accept or reject those,” Reedy explained. “Cultural cognition researchers, however, see political opinions as driven by deep-seated values about how the world works, and not contingent on someone’s political knowledge.”

Dan Kahan of Yale Law School is the figure most associated with cultural cognition approach (website here). He found the study useful. “I think it worked,” he told Salon. “It adds information.” He also found the broader project of studying the initiative process promising. “The opportunities to observe how people form their views will probably really be enhanced in many cases where there’s some kind of a high-profile referendum,” he said, “and where you can be confident that members of the electorate are engaged by it.”

“The two theories differ on the importance of media and campaign messages, too,” Reedy continued. “Heuristics theory argues that citizens need to get at least some information from the media or from a campaign itself, like endorsements from political parties or key politicians, to help them align their views with their ideology.” This is the sort of thing that campaign workers everywhere fervently believe. But they, too, could be misinformed. “Cultural cognitive theory, though, argues that citizens will get enough cues about nearly any issue in the public sphere to help them align their views on that issue with their underlying values.”


Blast from the Past. At Daily Kos on this date in 2008Republican House Members Love DC:

It seems like Republican House members have decided that they'll have a better chance at reelection if they don't remind voters back home of their existence. We've seen it during this August recess while they flocked to the floor to play at being Congressmembers over drilling instead of hanging out in their districts having to deal with real constituents and real issues.

Now they've announced that they want to stay in DC all fall if that's what it will take to get a drilling bill through.

House Republicans said Monday they would refuse to consider any energy bill that came straight to the floor from the Democratic leadership’s offices, rather than working its way through committee markups — a process that can take weeks or months.
Granted, there's safety in numbers, and they like each other better than anybody else--particularly their constituents -- like them. But this would suggest they really are afraid of voters.

It also suggests that any need to find "compromise" with them on the part of House Democratic leadership is bullshit.


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On today's Kagro in the Morning show: Cantor out! Because everybody resigns on Mondays. The 18th. So we recount his chauffeured SUV story. Greg Dworkin rounds up Rick Perry indictment news, reports that evangelicals haz gots a sad, collects the latest on Iraq, things looking up on jobs, and some improvement at the VA. Back to Ferguson with stirrings on the grand jury front, John Oliver's much-discussed take, a read through Jeffrey Smith's insightful look at the Ferguson community's history, and Mark Sumner's backgrounder on the lengths to which conservative Missouri went to keep Ferguson under the boot. Finally, no, it's not just libertarians who care about this.


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  •  Here we again. Masks out. Guns up. (13+ / 0-)

    It's like clockwork. As soon as it's dark the police start fucking with the protesters.

    "Speak with your chest, bro. You a man!" - Ferguson citizen to Gov. Nixon

    by jazzence on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:03:55 PM PDT

  •  Two new offerings (7+ / 0-)

    "The Democrats and the Republicans are equally corrupt where money is concerned. It's only in the amount where the Republicans excel." ~ Will Rogers

    by Lefty Coaster on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:07:58 PM PDT

  •   Trapper of CNN is on fire and superb tonite. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Disinformation - not misinformation (13+ / 0-)

    One would think people would get it by now, when someone sets out to give wrong information it is disinformation.  

    When someone makes a mistake and gets a fact wrong by accident, that's misinformation.

    Disinformation is intentionally false or inaccurate information that is spread deliberately. It is an act of deception and false statements to convince someone of untruth. Disinformation should not be confused with misinformation, information that is unintentionally false.

    Unlike traditional propaganda techniques designed to engage emotional support, disinformation is designed to manipulate the audience at the rational level by either discrediting conflicting information or supporting false conclusions. A common disinformation tactic is to mix some truth and observation with false conclusions and lies,....
    Wikipedia

    •  that's why I object to the phrasing "FALSE FACTS" (8+ / 0-)

      facts are not false.  they are true or they are not facts

      Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
      Drop by The Grieving Room on Monday nights to talk about grief.

      by TrueBlueMajority on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:38:46 PM PDT

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      •  Elaborate? n/t (2+ / 0-)
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        Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

        by JeffW on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 09:41:45 PM PDT

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      •  Gasland is information you don't like - nt (1+ / 0-)
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        There's no such thing as a free market!

        by Albanius on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 09:52:47 PM PDT

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        •  Gasland features spread of deliberate (1+ / 0-)
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          disinformation claiming that the oil and gas industry and hydraulic fracturing are exempt from all of the environmental laws and are unregulated.

          That simply is true, and it is the primary claim of the Gasland entertainment complex.

          Gasland as an act of scientific and engineering misconduct is about as offensive as an anti-science operation as the creation museum.

          For environmental groups to be spreading disinformation about laws and regulations that are actually binding on oil/gas industry conduct, such as the Clean Air Act, has no basis in conservation and environmental protection stewardship, science and engineering.  

          For Democrats, governance and public trust considerations mitigate for and require reality-based stewardship and policy as the platform for both Party and Dem candidates......and only legitimate conservation stewardship, science and engineering should be the basis of such policy and practice by Democrats....along with the defense of national environmental statutes in Congress.

          Creating a campaign to inculcate fear in public messaging and Gasland video propagandizing claiming that the oil and gas industry is exempted from all federal environmental laws and is unregulated is totally irresponsible conduct by a number of national environmental groups.

          Petroleum refineries have been regulated under the Clean Air Act ever since EPA published the first New Source Performance Standards for these facilities in 1974.   All oil and gas extraction facilities that are major sources of CAA pollutants are subject to best available control technology requirements that have been in effect since the 1977 Amendments to the Clean Air Act.

          EPA has long had new source performance standards for control of emissions from petroleum storage tanks.

          The Gasland claims about the Clean Air Act are complete hogwash, and such false presentation is typical of Gasland entertainment workproduct.   Neither John Muir nor Ed Muskie would approve of such environmental organization conduct if they were alive today.

          •  Ok... (1+ / 0-)
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            ...did you actually mean "simply is not true", where you said "simply is true" in your second paragraph? The rest of your reply seems to point in that direction.

            Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

            by JeffW on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 10:55:05 PM PDT

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          •  Fracking is exempt from Safe Drinking Water Act &c (0+ / 0-)

            Under the Cheney-Big Oil "Halliburton Loophole" in the Energy Policy Act of 2005.

            Safe Drinking Water Act

            Several statutes may be leveraged to protect water quality, but EPA's central authority to protect drinking water is drawn from the Safe Drinking Water Act (SDWA). The protection of USDWs is focused in the Underground Injection Control (UIC) program, which regulates the subsurface emplacement of fluid. Congress provided for exclusions to UIC authority (SDWA § 1421(d)), however, with the most recent language added via the Energy Policy Act of 2005:

            "The term 'underground injection' –
            (A) means the subsurface emplacement of fluids by well injection; and
            (B) excludes –
            (i) the underground injection of natural gas for purposes of storage; and
            (ii) the underground injection of fluids or propping agents (other than diesel fuels) pursuant to hydraulic fracturing operations related to oil, gas, or geothermal production activities."

            While the SDWA specifically excludes hydraulic fracturing from UIC regulation under SDWA § 1421 (d)(1), the use of diesel fuel during hydraulic fracturing is still regulated by the UIC program. Any service company that performs hydraulic fracturing using diesel fuel must receive prior authorization through the applicable UIC program. For more information on how the UIC regulations apply to hydraulic fracturing using diesel fuels please see EPA's Permitting Guidance for Oil and Gas Hydraulic Fracturing Activities Using Diesel Fuels. The UIC regulations can be found in Title 40 of the Code of Federal Regulations Parts 144-148.  
            -- EPA

            According to Clean Water Action, "Other exemptions are also present in the Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act."  EPA Region 2 Administrator Judith Enck confirmed this orally.

            Also,

            Some natural gas companies are not acting in good faith.
            A recent Congressional investigation has found that 32 million gallons of diesel fuel have been illegally injected into the ground as a fracking chemical in 19 different states from 2005 to 2009. Diesel fuel is believed to be particularly damaging to water supplies, and because of this, remains the only fracking chemical still regulated under the UIC program of the SDWA.
            Despite their claims that the chemicals used in the fracking process is safe, some drilling companies have consistently refused to provide a comprehensive list of the chemical additives used in fracking fluid.
             

            There's no such thing as a free market!

            by Albanius on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 09:40:31 AM PDT

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            •  The oil and gas industry and hydraulic fracturing (0+ / 0-)

              are only exempt from the Safe Drinking Water Act requirement for an underground injection well permit.  They are not exempt from the rest of the duties of the Safe Drinking Water Act which includes a prohibition on contamination of potable water supplies.

              There is no exemption contained in the Clean Air Act that exempts all oil and gas industry from regulation under the Clean Air Act.

              There is no exemption contain in the Clean Water Act that exempts hydraulic fracturing fluid, produced water or hydrocarbon liquids from the Clean Water Act regulation of discharges to waters of the United States.

    •  Thank you. This is a correction I've been... (3+ / 0-)
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      ...trying to spread ever since the term gained a bit of notoriety in The Spike in 1980.

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 10:00:00 PM PDT

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      •  That hit me too. dis vs misinfo & wondered why .. (3+ / 0-)
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        ..the obvious mistake. I agree completely that there is a difference being purposeful distortions = disinformation whereas mistaken info. like the earth is flat is misinformation. from ignorance at the time

         But after reading the article and one of the studies referenced, the word choice may have been on purpose.

        From tonight's  posted Salon article:

        But the problem is hardly limited to this one example, or to issues of war and peace more generally. Misinformation in public life isn’t the exception, it’s the rule, and researchers have been grappling with that fact, and its implications, for some time now. A new study published in Social Science Quarterly employs a “knowledge distortion index” and looks at two competing explanations for why this is so — one more top-down, the other more bottom-up — using three Washington state initiatives from the 2006 general election cycle to examine the dynamics of what is going on in this particular sort of political environment.
        I could easily be wrong on this but maybe, since the articles focus is not just on the news outlets that like Fox where disinformation is key to their operation, the article is also looking at a different source of distorting of facts that is more street level in nature. Or from the bottom up = the people themselves

        And top down = from the disinformation centers (Fox)

        Conclusion
        Our findings provide further evidence of politically motivated factual misperceptions on political issues, which have an independent effect on voters' ballot decisions. These misperceptions do not seem to be driven by news media and campaign messages, suggesting that citizens may be generating relevant empirical beliefs based on their underlying political values and ideology.

         -emphasis added

        So once the disinformation is pounded in by let's say a Fox "News" for long enough over a long enough time period, people will misinform themselves sort of using a formula that was designed by the disinformation outfits (Fox) to continue a certain distorted way of thinking without further disinformation provided from the top down
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        Kind of llke the person that choose one brand all of their lives like Bon Ami cleanser of use the words "pig ping' ball (brand name) or sawsall (brand name of reciprocating saw)

        And that the author is studying that effect maybe (?)

         Because if a political organization could come up with a self perpetuating formula where people misinformed themselves out of habit  - wow - that is some dangerous power.
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        Just my two cent guess since the mistake seemed so noticeable and as you say and has been corrected by so many over the years.

  •  100,000 Elephants Murdered (21+ / 0-)
    Ivory-seeking poachers have killed 100,000 African elephants in just three years, according to a new study that provides the first reliable continent-wide estimates of illegal kills. During 2011 alone, roughly one of every twelve African elephants was killed by a poacher.

    In central Africa, the hardest-hit part of the continent, the regional elephant population has declined by 64 percent in a decade, a finding of the new study that supports another recent estimate developed from field surveys.

    National Geographic

    96 Elephants Murdered EVERY DAY.

    Satao photo 130302bigtsavobullelephant-0_zps9f399b59.jpg

    The survey was conducted by field researchers who searched for elephant carcasses.  They found some near trails made by motorcycles, ridden by ivory poachers, near spent casings.  They found others along riverbeds in game preserves. These latter were the carcasses of elephants that had been wounded by bullets. When wounded, elephants experience internal and external bleeding, which makes them extremely thirsty.  They head to the game preserves, where they assume they will be safe, to drink.  Then they die along the river banks.

    NPR

    Take Action Here.

    Take Action Here.

    Please, please help our friends, the elephants.

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    Alison Lundergan Grimes for Senate!

    by noweasels on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:12:12 PM PDT

  •  it's the radio (8+ / 0-)

    1200 radio stations blasting the same message to 50 million people

    the key is it is not being challenged directly by those it attacks

    and it's endorsed by our sports teams

    only talk radio is capable of that uncontested coordinated repetition

    with all other media there is some measure of choice- it's easy to change the channel or page to other political content

    This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

    by certainot on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:14:33 PM PDT

    •  Which is precisely why we need to bring back (5+ / 0-)

      the Fairness Doctrine

      The Fairness Doctrine was a policy of the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC), introduced in 1949, that required the holders of broadcast licenses to both present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that was, in the Commission's view, honest, equitable and balanced. The FCC eliminated the Doctrine in 1987, and in August 2011 the FCC formally removed the language that implemented the Doctrine.

      The Fairness Doctrine had two basic elements: It required broadcasters to devote some of their airtime to discussing controversial matters of public interest, and to air contrasting views regarding those matters. Stations were given wide latitude as to how to provide contrasting views: It could be done through news segments, public affairs shows, or editorials. The doctrine did not require equal time for opposing views but required that contrasting viewpoints be presented.

      The main agenda for the doctrine was to ensure that viewers were exposed to a diversity of viewpoints…. The Fairness Doctrine should not be confused with the Equal Time rule. The Fairness Doctrine deals with discussion of controversial issues, while the Equal Time rule deals only with political candidates.  -- Wikipedia

      There's no such thing as a free market!

      by Albanius on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 09:57:39 PM PDT

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      •  today the fairness doctrine is a distraction (0+ / 0-)

        the very republican propaganda juggernaut it unleashed makes it about as possible to pass as single payer.

        if liberals want to get to the point where we can have a new fairness doctrine they and their orgs have to take republican radio more seriously.

        republican radio works primarily because it is a monopoly that eliminate competition and because liberals ignore it and give it a free speech free ride.

        if liberal orgs got serious and included stations in protests and pushed our colleges to stop broadcasting sports on and legitimizing those stations, and started monitoring/publishing the content for repetition etc, republican radio would fall apart, so would the new republican tea party, and dems would win big.

        This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

        by certainot on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 10:26:09 PM PDT

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        •  We are going to win big (1+ / 0-)
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          through a combination of demographic shifts, a new Generation Gap, and targeted and funded GOTV in critical states that can be flipped. Then we can undo the gerrymanders and voter suppression.

          North Carolina is already a swing state. Moral Mondays began with demonstrations, but is now focused on GOTV.

          Georgia would be a Blue state if all eligible Blacks registered to vote, and even half of them turned out. The money has been raised and volunteers recruited to make that happen. Maybe not by November, but certainly by 2016. Even without that, Michelle Nunn is given a fighting chance to take a Senate seat from Georgia this time.

          Battleground Texas is taking a longer view, with thousands of volunteers, many Spanish-speaking, encouraging immigrants to become citizens, citizens to register, and registered voters to turn out. It will happen. The only question is in which cycle. Even if Wendy Davis does not win the race for Governor, she is putting a scare into the Texas Republican Party and energizing Democrats statewide.

          Without those three states, and with other swing states trending Blue, there would be no path to electing a Republican as President. Undoing the gerrymanders in just those states would lock in a Democratic House majority and let us put through a new Voting Rights Act, which would greatly expand our lead in the House, and flip several state legislatures. All we need is one more big Teapublican blunder in order to be sure of taking the House this time.

          Kentucky has a Democratic governor, and could get a Democratic Senator this time. There are other targets.

          Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

          by Mokurai on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 07:45:16 AM PDT

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      •  FD would be a second step to ensure the last (0+ / 0-)

        25 years of disaster couldn't happen again

        This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

        by certainot on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 10:28:51 PM PDT

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  •  Of course (7+ / 0-)

    Fox news actually had the nerve to use the phrase "lynch mob mentality" about the situation in Ferguson... because of course they did...

  •   From theguardian.com, Sunday 17 August 2014 ... (2+ / 0-)
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    a Traditional Media source.

    The New York Times reporter James Risen, who faces jail over his refusal to reveal a source and testify against a former CIA agent accused of leaking secrets, has called President Barack Obama “the greatest enemy of press freedom in a generation”.
    Risen is furious at statements from the likes of Obama and the attorney general, Eric Holder, about supporting press freedom – including condemnation of the police in Ferguson, Missouri, for this week arresting journalists reporting on riots there.
    What DO YOU think, are Obama/Holder hypocrites??
    •  Fox Nation loved that one (3+ / 0-)
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      "The Democrats and the Republicans are equally corrupt where money is concerned. It's only in the amount where the Republicans excel." ~ Will Rogers

      by Lefty Coaster on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:21:40 PM PDT

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    •  I think you didn't dig hard enough to come up (4+ / 0-)
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      with you're anti-Obama-Democrats-Progressives crap tonight.

      When Obama hires a male hooker, gives him a White House press pass, and then has him feed softball questions that are designed to make look good as president during White House pressers, I'll care.

      Until then, I've seen enough of your concern troll crap on here to know what you're up to.

      “When I think of right wingers I think of terrorists who plot to kill and terrorize the lives of Planned Parenthood practitioners." ― Kurt Cobain

      by Jeff Y on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:47:47 PM PDT

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      •  Ya' think? (2+ / 0-)
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        Call 'im, Slick.

        Free Will is the only moral law.//If you have to explain snark, it's because it isn't working on one end or the other.

        by franklyn on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:56:11 PM PDT

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      •  Hi Jeff Y, the reason i mentioned the Freedom ... (0+ / 0-)

        of the Press issue is that I believe in Total Freedom, not just when it suits my/your agenda.

        Are you saying that James Risen and Glenn Greenwald reporting on leaks, isn't covered by Freedom of the Press. But reporting on the Brown Murder/Fergus Riots is covered by Freedom of the Press?? Inquiring minds would like to know.

        •  No, I'm just saying that you spend an inordinate (1+ / 0-)
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          amount of time on here bashing all things Obama-Democrats-Progressives.

          I'm not saying that we (Progreesives), and the people we support, don't have issues and problems that need to be examined and corrected, because we do. But I'm a big picture person and I prefer to look at things that way.

          “When I think of right wingers I think of terrorists who plot to kill and terrorize the lives of Planned Parenthood practitioners." ― Kurt Cobain

          by Jeff Y on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 09:22:20 PM PDT

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          •  Enquiring minds go to the grocery store. (1+ / 0-)
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            So, I'm told.

            Free Will is the only moral law.//If you have to explain snark, it's because it isn't working on one end or the other.

            by franklyn on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 09:25:02 PM PDT

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          •  You seem to have a reading comrehension ... (0+ / 0-)

            problem. Because what your reading isn't what I'm writing.

            I spend much of my time scolding Democrats because they don't push Progressive issues hard enough. Things like non-selective Freedom of the Press.

            I'm in favor of using Madison Ave style advertising to push Progressive agendas. This is one of my favorite subjects. I'll often quote business guru Seth Godin.

            Both Obama and HRC are too corporatist for my tastes. I'd like them to become more progressive. But I'm a realist, so I know it will never happen.

            •  You know who else demands purity? (2+ / 0-)
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              These assholes:

              teabaggers photo:  tpm-20090912-protest4.jpg

              “When I think of right wingers I think of terrorists who plot to kill and terrorize the lives of Planned Parenthood practitioners." ― Kurt Cobain

              by Jeff Y on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 10:46:44 PM PDT

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            •  Obama and HRC will become as progressive (0+ / 0-)

              as the voters and the courts are allowed to be. They "came out" in support of Marriage Equality when the public tipped, and it became clear that the issue would end up in court, not stuck at the ballot box.

              When we get rid of the gerrymanders and voter suppression in a new Voting Rights Act after we take the House again, you will be astonished at how Progressive most Democratic politicians suddenly become.

              Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

              by Mokurai on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 07:53:38 AM PDT

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      •  remember the "Gannon" button on the podium during (0+ / 0-)

        Colbert's WH correspondence dinner video?

  •  Bill-O whitesplains the black people in Ferguson (5+ / 0-)

    to his angry, old white audience.

    "These people".

    If this was a Teabagger protest, Bill-O would have described them as 'freedom loving, patriotic Americans'.

    Bill O’Reilly dismisses Ferguson protesters: ‘These people don’t want justice’:

    “‘No justice, no peace’? These people don’t want justice,” O’Reilly told Bolling. “What if the facts come out and say it was a justifiable shooting by the police officer, [that] this guy was coming at him? What if they say that? You think these people are going to accept that?”

    At the same time, the O’Reilly Factor host defended the heavily-criticized decision by local police to release footage of a confrontation between Brown and a convenience store owner prior to the shooting.

    “A smear? How can facts be a smear?” O’Reilly asked. “How is that possible? If you want a transparent investigation — which I do, you have to put the facts out.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/...

    “When I think of right wingers I think of terrorists who plot to kill and terrorize the lives of Planned Parenthood practitioners." ― Kurt Cobain

    by Jeff Y on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:23:04 PM PDT

  •  Great Link to Paul Rosenberg (4+ / 0-)

    I love this quote.

    “People who are fairly politically knowledgeable can figure out whether political information and factual claims match up with their own ideology or not — and therefore whether they should accept or reject those,”
    I see it all the time, match the facts to the ideology.

    “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

    by ban nock on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:25:49 PM PDT

  •  They're forming human chains. (2+ / 0-)
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    "Speak with your chest, bro. You a man!" - Ferguson citizen to Gov. Nixon

    by jazzence on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:27:12 PM PDT

  •  Sigh (3+ / 0-)
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    I really need to stop reading the comments at sites that are less well moderated then dKos. The amount of hatred and stupidity that unmoderated comments can dredge up is seriously depressing.

  •  LoFos as mutually reinforcing dissonance consumers (4+ / 0-)
    Or more likely the other way around: They believe untrue things, and that leads them to collect — even invent — bad information to flesh out what they already believe.

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "If we appear to seek the unattainable, then let it be known that we do so to avoid the unimaginable." (@eState4Column5)

    by annieli on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:28:26 PM PDT

  •  Propaganda Creates A Dangerous Select Group (1+ / 0-)
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    Jeff Y

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    Journalistic circles in particular like to describe the press as a 'great power' in the state. As a matter of fact, its importance really is immense. It cannot be overestimated, for the press really continues education in adulthood.

    Its readers, by and large, can be divided into three groups:

    First, into those who believe everything they read;

    Second, into those who have ceased to believe anything;

    Third, into the minds which critically examine what they read, and judge accordingly.

    Numerically, the first group is by far the largest. It consists of the great mass of the people and consequently represents the simplest-minded part of the nation. It cannot be listed in terms of professions, but at most in general degrees of intelligence. To it belong all those who have neither been born nor trained to think independently, and who partly from incapacity and partly from incompetence believe everything that is set before them in black and white. To them also belongs the type of lazybones who could perfectly well think, but from sheer mental laziness seizes gratefully on everything that someone else has thought, with the modest assumption that the someone else has exerted himself considerably. Now, with all these types, who constitute the great masses, the influence of the press will be enormous. They are not able or willing themselves to examine what is set before them, and as a result their whole attitude toward all the problems of the day can be reduced almost exclusively to the outside influence of others. This can be advantageous when their enlightenment is provided by a serious and truth-loving party, but it is catastrophic when scoundrels and liars provide it.
    -Adolph Hitler., Mein Kampf

    Men are so necessarily mad, that not to be mad would amount to another form of madness. -Pascal

    by bernardpliers on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:28:48 PM PDT

  •  Duh. The Free Press Concept Is Simply Incorrect, (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    JeffW, Chi

    it functions oppositely to what the framers intended.

    --As it must. Press are corporations and they're dominated by giant global corporations. They're owned and sponsored by other giant global corporations.

    As I pointed out in a top comment recently, we have a corporate state, these corporations are the ultimate source of funding that hires our government representatives.

    So the corporate press is necessarily, structurally, the state press. It's their function to advance the interests of ownership and defend them against the people. Including the fundamental right of global information corporations to lie about the most important matters of governance and events.

    This is how the 1st Amendment of the Bill of Rights functions.

    This is as simple as grade school arithmetic and basic machines like screws and levers. But reality is up against fundamentalist beliefs of Americans, from citizens to educators and commentators who consistently bring a philosophy book to an engineering systems design fight.

    The solutions aren't found in philosophy.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:28:56 PM PDT

  •  In the land of the free, you don't have to move. n (3+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, high uintas, Meteor Blades

    Free Will is the only moral law.//If you have to explain snark, it's because it isn't working on one end or the other.

    by franklyn on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:40:48 PM PDT

  •  You can really understand the lay of the land (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    JeffW, high uintas

    if you have Google Earth.

    Free Will is the only moral law.//If you have to explain snark, it's because it isn't working on one end or the other.

    by franklyn on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:44:49 PM PDT

  •  A concept car the Koch Bros would love... (6+ / 0-)

    ...a coal-fired gas turbine car.

    Probably would burn petcoke, too!

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:48:38 PM PDT

  •  This is seriously interfering w/ my not drinking.n (3+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, high uintas, geez53

    Free Will is the only moral law.//If you have to explain snark, it's because it isn't working on one end or the other.

    by franklyn on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:48:47 PM PDT

  •  Ah yes! Whatever and what really... (1+ / 0-)
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    high uintas

    ...happened to April Glasby, and why?

    “…violence is mimetic, one act of violence sowing the seeds for the next.” Jules Fraser

    by dharmasyd on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 08:55:45 PM PDT

  •  Winston (kitty) takes care of Zeke (puppy) (7+ / 0-)

    Zeke just got home from the vet -- being allergic to certain grasses, he broke out in hives and they gave him steroid and benadryl shots. This is Winston, loving and taking care of him =) Friend the on facebook - zeke n winston!
    http://www.youtube.com/...
  •  Alright it's on! (1+ / 0-)
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    high uintas

    "Speak with your chest, bro. You a man!" - Ferguson citizen to Gov. Nixon

    by jazzence on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 09:03:32 PM PDT

  •  Glad to hear that Paul's now at Salon (4+ / 0-)

    I used to read all his pieces and pretend to understand them while engaging him in endless discussions and debates when he was at OpenLeft, no doubt to his everlasting frustration. I was not a patient grasshopper.

    "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

    by kovie on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 09:03:49 PM PDT

  •  Case in point about misinformation (0+ / 0-)

    1.) Hussein did not actually threaten to invade Kuwait. Instead, he assured Mubarak that nothing was imminent. Still, Iraq was menacing Kuwait by massing troops near the border. I suppose you could could claim that was at least an implicit threat.

    2.) April Glaspie did not say that "the US would take no action" if Iraq invaded. She urged them to resolve the dispute peacefully and said the US took no position in Arab disputes. The controversial Mearscheamer and Walt have written that the State Dept had earlier told the Iraqis there were no "specific military or defense commitments' to Kuwait. I don't believe this has been confirmed, but even that is not a declaration to Iraq that the US would take no action.

    Facts matter -- which was the point of this piece. The Iraqis may or may not have believed they were being told the US would not respond militarily, but that is not what was said. It was probably an error of diplomacy not to make clear to the Iraqis that we would respond militarily, but that's not the same as telling them we wouldn't.

    Coming Soon -- to an Internet connection near you: Armisticeproject.org

    by FischFry on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 09:03:51 PM PDT

  •  The Justice Department... (6+ / 0-)

     

    The playlist for Monday 18 August 14 9pm to Midnight Pacific Edition of The Justice Department: Musique sans Frontieres

     ~~ "The Monstrance of Bleeding Chains" ~~

    1 - Black Keys -- "The Only One"
    2 - R L Burnside -- "It's Bad You Know"
    3 - Los Cenzontles, David Hidalgo and Taj Mahal -- "No Work"
    4 - Russian Red -- "No Past Land"
    5 - Dave Van Ronk -- "He Was A Friend Of Mine"
    6 - Yeah Yeah Yeahs -- "Runaway"
    7 - The Radio Dept -- "Strange Things Will Happen"

    Station Break

    8 - Buffalo Springfield --  "I Am A Child"
    9  - Simon & Garfunkel -- "For Emily, Whenever I May Find Her"
    10- Gotan Project -- "Paris, Texas"
    11 - Death Cab For Cutie -- "Transatlanticism"
    12 - The Postal Service -- "The District Sleeps Alone Tonight"
    13 - The Doors -- "You're Lost Little Girl"
    14 - Blood Orange -- "Sutphin Boulevard"

    Station Break

    15 - Cider Sky -- "Shooting Stars"
    16 - The Wooden Birds -- The Other One
    17 - Micatone -- "Nomad Sinners Lounge"
    18 - The Sound Defects -- "Angels"
    19 - Nouvelle Vague -- "Aussi Belle Ou Une Balle"
    20 - Montefiori Cocktail -- "Tequila Bum Bum"
    21 - Martin Deny -- "Hypnotique"

    Station Break

    22 - Cara Dillon -- "Black Is The Color"
    23 - Lila Downs -- "Mi Corazon me Recuerda"
    24 - Compay Segundo -- "Juliancito"
    25 - Astor Piazzolla -- "Invierno Porteno"
    26 - Paco Ibanez -- "Los Versos Mas Tristres"
    27 - Stan Getz -- "Samba De Una Nota"

    Station Break

    28 - Abdullah Chhadeh & Syriana -- "Ana Araby"
    29 - Malouma -- "Yerab"
    30 - Tinariwen -- "Le Chant des Fauves"
    31 - Radio Tarifa -- "Sin Palabras"
    32 - Dead Can Dance -- "Agape"

    Station Break

    33 - Mandrake & Ripper -- "War is Too Important"
    34 - Flipper -- "Sex Bomb"
    35 - Mission of Burma -- "Dead Pool"
    36 - L7 -- "Pretend We're Dead"
    37 - Television -- "Marquee Moon"

    Who luvs ya, baby?

    The Netroots Radio Player








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    (12-String Ovation Balladeer Astoria, Oregon / copyright Justice Putnam)

    Choppers in the night husk the brilliants of thought
    Beyond the cities of patina grow caves of thought
    Coyote Hummingbird Owl are rivers of thought
    The lumens the pumpkins dance: pits of correspondence over the land
    Birds the dream tongues warble Iroquois Mojavé Ohlone
    Market Street of “The Mad Doctor” via the occult centers
    A gang of fox spirits at the crossroads
    Bandoleros set between the obliteration of grizzly bears painted by an Arcimboldist and the monstrance of bleeding chains
    Montezuma’s feathery headdress torn up in the boondocks of the Rosy Cross

    Coyote girls in myth-time
    At the central dream of edenic treasures
    The irrevocable annihilation of christian civilization is taking shape with carnivorous flowers of volcanic thought

    -- Philip Lamantia
    "Meadowlark West"

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    Listen to The After Show & The Justice Department on Netroots Radio. Join us on The Porch Tue & Fri at Black Kos, all are welcome!

    by justiceputnam on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 09:10:53 PM PDT

  •  Knowlege distortion - what an excellent topic (3+ / 0-)
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    What is certain is that a growing community of researchers, and those who follow them, are developing an increasingly textured feel for the phenomenon of knowledge distortion — a phenomenon that not too long ago wasn’t even acknowledged to exist.
    I just posted a Diary touching on that. And the need to de-militarize the police. Okay it's more of a mosaic of ideas put together

    GOP's F0x oppo advertising-news wing: never admit truth about racial oppression even for murder

    Sure could have used this Salon article on the false facts and the conservative distortion machine.

    Thx MB

  •  Just caught my eye a moment ago... (2+ / 0-)
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    Omir the Storyteller, annieli

    Is this a sign of synchronicity or what:

    "I like paying taxes...with them, I buy Civilization"

    by Angie in WA State on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 09:47:11 PM PDT

  •  if you've never been behind the veil of current (0+ / 0-)

    events, you might be at a disadvantage.
    keeping people at a disadvantage is what has been driving this country nuts for far too long.

    for the love of humanity please protect the light in all that may glow and try not to make anyone else's path more cruel than it would be on its own.

    by renzo capetti on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 09:49:49 PM PDT

  •  Haredi draft-dodgers riot (1+ / 0-)
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    JeffW

    Presented without comment.  From ynetnews:

    Some 200 youth protested on a street in Jerusalem, where they blocked an intersection and prevented buses from passing through. Shortly after, the protest turned violent as the youth clashed with security forces, calling police officers "Nazis."

    “A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude.” —Aldous Huxley

    by ActivistGuy on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 09:54:21 PM PDT

  •  So much for Fox News' (0+ / 0-)

    "post-racial society" being the current state of this country.

    What was Fox News smoking?

    -4.75, -5.33 Cheney 10/05/04: "I have not suggested there is a connection between Iraq and 9/11."

    by sunbro on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 01:44:33 AM PDT

  •  I still miss OpenLeft. (0+ / 0-)

    Chris, Matt, Paul - no silly rules making people pretend Democrats are what we all know they aren't.   Sort of like the politicians pretending militarized cops are a good thing, and the US has a deficit crisis except when we're giving tax cuts to corporations or starting another war.  Paul and I still connect on twitter once in awhile.  Always nice to run into him and his writing.

    I will not vote for Hillary..... #38067

    by dkmich on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 04:08:39 AM PDT

  •  Actually, it is not primarily (0+ / 0-)
    bad information that leads them to believe untrue things.
    It is that True Believers deny the most obvious facts on the flimsiest of excuses when their beliefs are that important to them, from the 1% denying the most obvious facts of economics to what they used to call Poor White Trash keeping its boot on the neck of poor Blacks on the theory that slavery had been good for the slaves. They then seek out the Echo Chamber and attempt to remain completely within the bubble at all times. But they can't keep their children insulated from the evidence-based world any more, and children are falling away in droves.

    I recently Diaried this in Grokking Republicans: Cognitive Dissonance, as part of my series for the Readers and Book Lovers group. The phenomena and the conditions for doubling down on failed predictions and going big with nonsense in the media were laid out in When Prophecy Fails, by Festinger, Riecken, and Schachter.

    Republicans of various kinds deny everything that would suggest helping any of those that they designate as the Other, in the Republican War on Everybody Including Each Other.

    We will be looking at The Evolution of Cooperation, which suggests remedies, and Eric Hoffer's study of The True Believer, among other books.

    Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

    by Mokurai on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 06:59:19 AM PDT

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