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Late breaking at 8:00 EST on Saturday.
McConnell leads Grimes 46-42 in a KY media consortium poll released this evening.
MOE is 4.2%
Every poll so far is within the margin of error.

And this poll was taken BEFORE McConnell's very bad and terrible week.
Koch Brother recording in Dana Point, CA and . . .
His campaign manager is going to jail for bribing folks.

So sit tight.

And this is an interesting takeaway from the poll. It is a mystery.
Obama has -27 favorability rating in KY
President Clinton has a +28 favorability rating.
And their policies are identical.

What about them is different. I can't SEE anything.
Thoughts?

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  •  Grimes had (6+ / 0-)

    a LEAD in early Bluegrass polls. This was always going to be an uphill fight but the Grimes' campaign hasn't taken advantage of its opportunities.

    The real campaign begins this weekend but this one could be over before they open the polls unless Grimes picks up her game.

    •  One thing to keep in my mind (4+ / 0-)

      Bluegrass, I believe, has switched to a LV screen now, so it's hard to compare this poll with older ones where Grimes was leading, since I think they were among registered voters.

      I do agree, that she needs to pick things up in Sept though.

      •  Also she's too scripted (14+ / 0-)

        Saw her on Lawrence O'Donnell Thursday night and she sounded like she was reading from a script, no warmth, no emotion and her face was blank.  She needs to show more personality and not be so wooden.  Look, the facts are on her side, she just needs to prove herself to the voters.

        Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it . Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans (Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011) Voting is a louder voice than a bullhorn but sometimes you need that bullhorn to retain your vote.

        by Rosalie907 on Sat Aug 30, 2014 at 08:17:09 PM PDT

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        •  Agree completely (8+ / 0-)

          Lawrence kept trying to get her to actually answer a question extemporaneously and she kept it canned, to the point where it became frustrating to watch.

          •  Glad to see (2+ / 0-)
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            manucpa, VeloDramatic

            I'm not the only one who noticed this.  I want her to win but she can't give more interviews like this.  Someone in her campaign has to talk to her.

            Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it . Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans (Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011) Voting is a louder voice than a bullhorn but sometimes you need that bullhorn to retain your vote.

            by Rosalie907 on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 10:06:09 AM PDT

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            •  Isn't it ironic (0+ / 0-)

              McConnell has to be one of the most wooden, awkward speakers. The cruelty never leaves that curled down mouth of his. Allison should be wiping the floor with him.

              •  What I'm thinking (1+ / 0-)
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                VeloDramatic

                Is that this may have been her first interview on a National level and she was nervous, I really hope so.

                Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it . Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans (Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011) Voting is a louder voice than a bullhorn but sometimes you need that bullhorn to retain your vote.

                by Rosalie907 on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 05:14:02 PM PDT

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        •  Then again.... (4+ / 0-)

          when compared to The Turtle, she is a regular Mother Theresa.  
          But I do agree she could use a little less scripting--watching her at Fancy Farm, she had the right words but seemed far to "Kerryesk".  Please Dems, learn from past mistakes.

          Well, now you are just trying to be reasonable...and I'm in NO mood to be reasonable!

          by quiet in NC on Sat Aug 30, 2014 at 09:03:29 PM PDT

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        •  So true about Grimes, she did not come across as a (4+ / 0-)
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          stevenaxelrod, buffie, Rosalie907, manucpa

          candidate I would care to support, if not for the thought in the head that Republicans must not be allowed to take over the Senate.

          She is basically campaigning for McConnell voters, not Democratic voters, or at least not Obama Democratic voters, just the Clinton Democrats as she puts it....

          She refuses to talk about the healthcare law which McConnell has pledged to kill if he gets the chance.

          I wonder if it has sunk in that more than 400,000 Kentuckians would lose access to care if McConnell gets his way. All she has to do is say so, but, you see, she loathes mentioning anything that is connected to the "bogeyman" Obama, whom she bashes at every opportunity.

          This is her winning strategy…we  shall see....

          •  I understand (2+ / 0-)
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            manucpa, NedSparks

            That in Kentucky she has to distance herself from the President but Kynec is a winner and people love it but if McConnell wins he'll squash it.  She has to put this message out there and lets get some warmth from her also. I can't wait to see how Jesse Barton's resignation and the Koch tape will affect this race and we should know that in a week or 2.

            Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it . Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans (Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011) Voting is a louder voice than a bullhorn but sometimes you need that bullhorn to retain your vote.

            by Rosalie907 on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 10:11:20 AM PDT

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        •  Agree, too scripted, but then again (1+ / 0-)
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          manucpa

          Going unscripted has its price. Ask  Barack "we don't have a strategy yet" Obama about that.  Honesty doesn't get you points nowadays;  only bravado sells.

          It's not unusual for candidates at this level to act like consultant-driven robots. If you think back on it, that was Sarah Palin's complaint in 2008. They tried to script her too much so she "went rogue."  (which hasn't exactly gone well for her either, but she at least claimed to feel liberated!)

          I'm sure Grimes is being told to stay on message, both to avoid gaffes and to drive home points that they've probably focus-group tested.  If she said "millionaires and billionaires" one more time in that interview I was going to scream, but she's either got a limited vocabulary or they've determined people resent McConnell's accommodating the wealthy so she needs to attack that.

          Progressives get upset with these Southern Democrats for being Republican-light. But let's be fair. Bernie Sanders has called for an end to coal industry subsidies. Do you think he would win if he were running in KY on that platform? I don't.  We have to face facts that many parts of this country don't see the world the same as progressives. If she loses by the 4% shown in this poll, it almost seems like a triumph considering the odds.

  •  Such negativity. Grimes is within striking (14+ / 0-)

    Distance of the Senate Minority Leader, in a year that his party was favored to win the majority. I thinks she's doing very well.

  •  KY media consortium poll? (1+ / 0-)
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    NotGeorgeWill

    Do we have their previous results in this race? What is their 2012 track record?

    Patriotism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel clings. Steal a little and they throw you in jail. Steal a lot and they make you king.... Dylan

    by bywaterbob on Sat Aug 30, 2014 at 07:37:14 PM PDT

  •  Not surprised (7+ / 0-)

    We are a slave State and McConnell's campaign is not against Grimes but directed at our Black President. I had not heard the N-word for a least a decade living in Iowa and the East Coast. Then I moved to this area and heard it a lot. Low education and admiration for super wealth, like Koch brothers, and belief that pollution, asthma, black lung, and tooth decay are natural acts of God works well for McConnell.

    And here in KY, liberal is a dirty word. You know liberals who freed the slaves, gave women the right to vote, rural electric, GI bill, Social Security, Medicare, and ended preexisting conditions for health care..

    Now the liberals want to raise minimum wage, give laid off coal miners unemployment insurance, stop the rich from avoiding taxes by hiding them overseas, and give college students the same loan rates that big banks get.

    Mitch promises to never let those evil ideas get a vote.

    I don't know what consciousness is or how it works, but I like it.

    by SocioSam on Sat Aug 30, 2014 at 08:41:09 PM PDT

    •  Interesting too how they despise (5+ / 0-)

      Obama for being a Liberal that Grimes would not countenance even being in the same room as the President or even shake his hand in public.

      So strong is her aversion to the Democratic President that she would not even be as  magnanimous as Charlie Crist who hugged the President as a Republican and lost his Senate race. Still, it is interesting that Grimes view Obama as such an extreme Liberal to be loathed, but she can  campaign with Elizabeth Warren.... Is Elizabeth Warren not a Liberal then?

      It doesn't take a genius to solve this whole ugly puzzle....

    •  If 370,000 choose KyNect, but hate O-care (0+ / 0-)

      and would vote against Grimes and NOT know the difference of what it is doing to them by voting that way, then Kentucky as a state gets what it deserves. That is worse than NOT having a choice like a number of other states suffer with. If you would choose bad health care and forced minimum wage because you hate black people, wow!! Sounds terrible, but that's the way it looks to me.

  •  Recced for pointing out (6+ / 0-)

    the extreme discrepancies in Obama and Clinton's favorability poll numbers. Obama is slightly more liberal than Clinton, but you are right that that should NOT account for a sixty point difference. I had no idea Clinton was so well-loved in Tennessee. It just makes their objections to Obama even more obvious.

    Why do I have the feeling George W. Bush joined the Stonecutters, ate a mess of ribs, and used the Constitution as a napkin?

    by Matt Z on Sat Aug 30, 2014 at 08:45:56 PM PDT

  •  Ooooooh, Oooooooooh, I know.... (3+ / 0-)
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    Clinton wore tan better!  

    Well, now you are just trying to be reasonable...and I'm in NO mood to be reasonable!

    by quiet in NC on Sat Aug 30, 2014 at 09:07:03 PM PDT

  •  Over 370,000 Of The Haters Signed Up For Obamacare (6+ / 0-)

    AKA Kynect.  Funny how the President has a negative 27 point rating especially when so many of them bellied up to the Obamacare bar as soon as they could.

    Talk about your ingratitude.  

    What has Mitch McConnell done for any of them.....he even said "it's not my job to bring jobs to Kentucky"?

    Go figure!

  •  If you look very, very closely, (6+ / 0-)

    you'll see one difference between Clinton and Obama

  •  Probably reflects a 'bump' among (1+ / 0-)
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    the Kentucky intelligentsia upon news that ol' Mitch wisely picked a shameless bribe-taker as his campaign manager.

    'Course, it makes all the difference in the world that the soon-to-be convict 'stepped down'.

    Changes everything.

    Self-hating morons.

  •  what are the issues in this campaign? (1+ / 0-)
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    buffie

    The Grimes campaign has always seemed to be groping for some issue to use against McConnell. They tried the ACA, but it doesn't seem to be making a big impression.

    McConnell just has to smear Grimes and turn out the troglodyte vote. He's not concerned with issues. The Republican base will come out for him.

    "McConnell sucks" is not an issue. I don't know how much the campaign manager thing will affect the race because it's at one remove (possibly even more). The scandal didn't even happen in Kentucky, and except for Bachmann supporters (all ten of them), it's not clear that Republican voters will be turned off by it.

    Was the guy even working for McConnell at the time? It'll be a lot of work trying to keep the issue alive for the voting public.

    The DNC has clearly invested a lot in this candidate--they were circling the wagons before she even won her primary, and she was showered with high-profile endorsements such as Warren's.

    If she loses, it's not going to look good for the Dem strategists. The Democrats have to defend 21 Senate seats. Pouring so many resources and so much money into this race in what will be a very tough year for Democrats seems to me to be sheer hubris, a vanity project for the DNC and a foolish attempt to get revenge for Daschle. And so it will prove if they lose.

    When the GOP went after Daschle in 2004, they barely beat him. Even in a year when Republicans were extremely strong nationally and Bush was on the ballot to turn out Republicans. This year Obama's not on the ballot to draw out the Democratic base, and the Democrats don't have that momentum that the GOP had after 9/11.

    Thune beat Daschle by using the Iraq war and national security as a club, over and over again, to paint him as out of touch with voters.

    I don't see any similar kind of coherent strategy with this campaign. They clutch at this and that issue hoping to make a dent. It's not working.

    "In America, the law is king." --Thomas Paine

    by limpidglass on Sun Aug 31, 2014 at 03:40:10 AM PDT

  •  Obama is a northerner! Clinton a southerner. (1+ / 0-)
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    That was too easy!  :-)

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