Did Rebels Use Sarin on March 19th?

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Thursday September 05, 2013 · 12:35 PM PDT

2013/09/05 · 12:35

According to the Russians, yes.

McClatchy: Russia says it's compiled 100-page report blaming Syrian rebels for a chemical weapons attack

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/...

According to the article, the report was not released, but

had been delivered to the United Nations in July and includes detailed scientific analysis of samples that Russian technicians collected at the site of the alleged attack, Khan al Asal.

A statement from the Russian Foreign Ministry,

said its investigation of the March 19 incident was conducted under strict protocols established by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, the international agency that governs adherence to treaties prohibiting the use of chemical weapons. It said samples that Russian technicians had collected had been sent to OPCW-certified laboratories in Russia.

The Ministry statement,

drew a pointed comparison between what it said was the scientific detail of the report and the far shorter intelligence summaries that the United States, Britain and France have released to justify their assertion that the Syrian government launched chemical weapons against Damascus suburbs on Aug. 21. The longest of those summaries, by the French, ran nine pages. Each relies primarily on circumstantial evidence

It noted that,

the attention paid to the Aug. 21 attack had diverted attention from the investigation into the March 19 incident, which was the reason U.N. investigators were in Syria when the more recent attack took place.
“Unfortunately, that investigation still essentially has not begun,” the statement said.

Read the article and decide for yourselves. There is supporting and conflicting information presented.

The point, to me, is that if this is true, it is another reason why we should stay out, and not choose sides, especially one that may have also used sarin, first, and hates us religiously.

In the end, as with the muhajadin, we may cut of our nose to spite our face.

NOTHING about Turkey at the "reality based community," and the Mutz Paradox (w/ Update)

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Wednesday August 07, 2013 · 2:44 PM PDT

2013/08/07 · 14:44

As diary upon diary is written to indoctrinate the masses and fill them with internet outrage about the evil attributes of Republicans and even the USA itself, there is NOTHING in at this site what took just place in Turkey.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/...

http://news.yahoo.com/...

John Stuart is quoted to have said: He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that.

Who knew he was speaking about, among others, the "reality based community" that not only believes it has the all the answers, and is more moral, but that alternative views are proffered for malicious purposes.

It's the Mutz paradox at work. Less educated and politically involved citizens tend to be more tolerant and aware of reasons for dissent when they hear from others who disagree, yet are less likely to act politically than the fewer, generally more educated politcal activists who actually encounter opposing positions far less often. These activists often have the sort of homogenous social networks that undermine what deliberative theorists routinely advocate. In other words, He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that.

http://cfed.org/...

http://www.jasonbarabas.com/...

The fact is that, to really become informed, this is not the place. But if one wants to reinforce bias, it is.

UPDATE: I take back what I said, kind of. There was one mention buried in a diary entitled, "The Evening Blues - 8-5-13." Kudos to the diarist.

http://www.dailykos.com/...

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