Okay, everyone wants to talk framing, so here is Hagel wanting to boost the retirement age to 68 (for full benefits), we all know how the Repubs have distorted the life expectancy question so here is some turnabout, frame it like this--Hagel wants us to work for over 45 years to get less than 10 years worth of benefits (current life expectancy in the US is just under 78). I think that Joe Sixpack (myself included) will see that as a raw deal. In fact let's just call W's plan the Raw Deal versus FDRs New Deal. The truth is that most of the people who really need SS are not pencil pushers, they do jobs that are simply not done by people in their late 60's.