hopeful ME and secure America yada, yada, yada...
Update [2007-9-13 21:21:33 by hfiend]: hunters FP thread here
A thought:
If troop withdrawals are based on 'success' and 'progress' then why don't we just go along with it? Heck, let's start citing our own success. If they can make it up surely we can.
Seems like a small sacrifice for getting our military out of a civil war and home or into a fight they have reasonable goals in and a chance of success.