Folks, meet KumarP, Naderite thug (4+ / 0-)
Classic Naderite behavior -- a TR because he finds my comments "disrespectful," but when the diarist compares Kossacks with a less than favorable opinion of Saint Ralph to Freepers, Kumar's TR is oddly absent.
To TR someone because you don't agree with their opinions is a violation of FAQs -- to lie about it is merely the behavior of a scumbag.
by ------- on Mon Oct 27, 2008 at 09:32:34 AM PDT
The "TR" in question was given by me because I thought the following comment, in response to a plea by the diarist to give Nader respect for his historical victories (like the subject of the diary in question: today's date, 39 years ago, when Nader's Raiders were formed), was, ironically, completely disrespectful:
Jim, I'd gladly give Nader the respect he's due. (8+ / 1-)
Tell me where he is appearing next, and I'll go there and piss on him.
Haven't you Naderite schmucks caught on to the fact that you are as welcome at DKos as your johns in the GOP?
please follow me below the fold...
I want to get two things out of the way, right off the bat: 1) I voted for Nader in 2000. 2) I am, and have been my whole life, an activist for Democrats.
Now, some of you may be convinced that you can't reconcile those two facts, but in my case, it's easy. I live (and have pretty much always lived) in California, a solid blue state, and in 2000, I was just getting out of college and at a very idealistic stage. I had Nader's books, and I liked what he was saying. I went and saw him at the Henry Kaiser arena in Oakland. It was exciting. I was also into the Green Party at the time. Fast forward...
I'm past all that. I'm a big-time Obama supporter. Prior to that, I was a small-time Kerry supporter and a big-time Deaniac. I come to Daily Kos for the same reason as everyone else: to elect Democrats. But I don't feel a compulsion to wear my prior Nader support as a badge of shame.
WHY AM I SAYING ALL OF THIS? Because apparently, I am a "Naderite Thug", a "schmuck", an "asshole" and a "troll", for trying to have a respectful discussion that involves this **forbidden** topic.
I saw that a poster had told the diarist to "Shut the fuck up", for which the poster has gotten 10 recs at the time of this writing. And one TR from me, for being completely and vulgarly disrespectful, which, AFAIK, is a prime reason to hide comments. I've been around this site for years, and my understanding at the time that troll ratings/hidden comments were introduced was that they served the dual purpose of kicking abusive hate speech out of our community, as well as keeping Freeper trolls away. In this manner, it strengthened Daily Kos.
Well, for putting in my "hide" command on the STFU comment, I unleashed a fury. This was my comment, that went with the TR:
You know, that's messed up (0+ / 0-)
And you deserve to be TR'd for it. Total disrespect for a person who wrote a thoughtful, constructive diary that obviously frustrates a lot of people. For my part, I think it's possible to appreciate Nader's accomplishments (as this diary does, in the context of "this date in history"), while despising his actions of the last decade. However, what you said is simply not civilized behavior.
These are the other three comments I troll-rated in that diary's thread:
Jim, let me say this to you in the nicest way... (5+ / 1-)
Go fuck yourself.
by ------- on Mon Oct 27, 2008 at 09:11:06 AM PDT
Troll in the house! (3+ / 1-)
Nice ratings abuse, asshole.
by ------- on Mon Oct 27, 2008 at 09:32:34 AM PDT
No (4+ / 1-)
What is uncalled for is your ratings abuse. Go shill for Republicans somewhere else, asshole.
by -------- on Mon Oct 27, 2008 at 09:33:27 AM PDT
Each time, I was responding to hate speech here at dKos. In this thread, I was called many things- "Naderite" (repeatedly), "schmuck" (repeatedly), "troll" (repeatedly), "asshole" (repeatedly), "shilling for a Republican whore like Nader", "Naderite thug", "scumbag" (repeatedly), "the worst kind of troll", and "a fraud and a coward".
These comments hurt. They've been bugging me all day. I hardly said anything in this thread, and what I did say was meant to breed respect. I took heat for troll-rating hateful comments, and I took heat for giving the diarist a rec on one of his comments, but beyond heat, I took a lot of ugly stuff spewed from some real jerks on this board.
Listen- if you disagree with a diary, that's fine. If you think the author deserves to be troll-rated, find an appropriately trollish comment by them, and troll-rate it. But to go after anyone who isn't part of the authorized (and I view all of the recs that the hateful comments have received as a sort of perverse authority) hate brigade with the slew of comments that were thrown at me- THAT IS BEYOND THE PALE.