with three recent dismissals under their belt, delivered by judge clay land in georgia (his second, with sanctions!), judge jerome simandle in new jersey and judge david o. carter in california, the major birther cases appear to have been altogether banished to appellate court purgatory, where, for all intents and purposes, they won't be soon heard from again ...
that is, unless you're a contestant on "who wants to be a birther?", where your next lifeline is just one idle speculation away, like this one found floating at the wall street journal:
in the suit dismissed on thursday, carter ruled that a group of plaintiffs could have standing: namely wiley s. drake, alan keyes, gail lightfoot, and markham robinson because they appeared on the california ballot as candidates for president or vice president in the 2008 election. therefore, they may have been, theoretically speaking, harmed by an alleged fraud perpetrated by obama in regard to his birthplace.
y'know, for a moment or two there, i was starting to think about packing it all in. how could i have been so weak? hallelujah! let the games begin anew!
the law suit needs to be refocused!
this suit was not dismissed "with prejudice". i believe that means kreep and taitz (hopefully just kreep at this point) are not barred from bringing the suit back to carter's court with the defects that judge carter identified corrected (dumping the non-political plaintiffs and all defendants except obama, and not asking for removal of obama but asking only monetary damages).
the WSJ blogger jones read carter's at times confusing musings in dicta to mean that the political plaintiffs actually could have standing that carter was willing to recognize if a remedy was available to the judge. the de facto removal of obama requested by kreep and taitz was not seen as an available remedy, but a monetary judgment just might be!
judge carter seems to have actually invited a new lawsuit by the political plaintiffs!
how often have the anti-birthers and other scoffers declared that taitz and kreep would fail "just like all the others" because "none" of the plaintiffs had standing? yet the WSJ legal blogger jones says the anti-birthers and others are wrong. judge carter found that the political candidates could have standing if the case was timely filed and a remedy were available, according to jones.
finding standing for the political plaintiffs is huge!!!
CARTER DECISION FATAL FLAW: when all is said and done, ONE CLAIM MOST DEFINITELY SURVIVES, and that is keyes' claim for fraud committed by candidate obama before becoming president, which judge carter pretends away on the sole basis of orly having filed same on 1/20/09 at an hour after obama took the oath. that's a "red herring" because obama took the valid oath on 1/21/09, no presidential immunity exists for tort fraud by candidate obama before becoming president, and "before-or-after" oath filing by orly is irrelevant for such case which does NOT seek presdential removal, albeit judge carter pretends that IS the sole relief sought by keyes.
FANTASTIC NEWS!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!
hopefully, everyone will take the time and efoort to read, digest and fully understand your great analysis of judge carter's findings!!!!!!! HUGE!!!!
OBAMA IS A FRAUD AND THE ALLIGATORS ARE CLOSING IN!!
i’m reading the comments from the article you posted and it is no longer a question whether obama has people on the payroll to troll the eligibility issue all over the web. they are scared sh!tless.
even the reigning "queen of the birthers", orly taitz, now facing legal oblivion, can't let go any chance at redemption:
dear mr. jones
i am aware that you are not a fan of mine, but there are a number of constitutional issues that i raised in this action, that were omitted in the opinion or misinterpreted. i hope you will show journalistic integrity more so then bill o’reilly and rachel maddow and would give me an opportunity to present those issues to the readers of wsj. you can reach me at [redacted]
sincerely
orly taitz
orly's no doubt referring to the colorful coverage she received on her latest legal escapades on both msnbc and fox:
meanwhile, claiming his winnings on "the birther is right", leo "jet schizo" donofrio, on-again-off-again semi-retired attorney, poker ace and punk rock polymath, whose request for a supreme court hearing was declined last december, sees the carter ruling as vindicating his own "quo warranto" strategy for toppling the usurper.
the conflict will eventually be tested in the DC district court.
meanwhile, it’s important for me to point out that everything i have told readers of this blog about quo warranto was confirmed by judge carter today.
JUDGE CARTER DID NOT HOLD THAT QUO WARRANTO WAS IMPROPER TO CHALLENGE THE ELIGIBILITY OF A SITTING PRESIDENT.
this was the most extraordinary part of today’s ruling. it opens the door wide for a proper eligibility challenge in the DC district court where the hurdle for standing is different from ordinary federal cases.
please take note that the department of justice attorneys argued before judge carter that quo warranto — even if brought properly in the DC District Court — could not be used to challenge the eligibility of a sitting president. judge carter’s ruling did not support the department of justice position.
looking to donofrio as their possible new "queen bee", four out of five birthers agree:
other than being a world-class poker player, donofrio is one smart legal beagle. i think they’re intimately related vocations.
leo supposedly is also a very good chess player. he said he has recently played in some tournaments and won one. i think he said he had draws with guys that have a 2200 to 2300 rating. the highest USCF rating ever was bobby fischer who was at 2810. his FIDE rating was 2785.
i think the guys leo got draws from were just below grandmasters.
could it be that he's waiting for a more "perfect" (if there is such a thing) case, if you will?
he strikes me as the exact opposite type of lawyer that dr. taitz is. that is, that he's not willing to put numerous unsound and piece meal type lawsuits together (as they've been described by many) and hope that one sticks. he seems to be the kind of attorney that will represent another in the near future, but one that has a better chance of succeeding based on all lesson's learned to date. and yes, much of his "pontificating" has been very educational (ex. chester arthur research, QW research, etc) to the country. anyway, that's my take on the difference.
donofrio hasn’t done anything since his own case was shot down except criticize and bloviate.
i believe that leo has found a legitimate "interested party" (a person personally "injured in fact" by obama subsequent to obama taking office) but can't yet disclose the details until his filing is made!
birthers and birther-watchers alike can only hope.
more than likely, however, the only thing currently holding leo back is a little case of stage fright:
before leaving for dc the night before, i died my hair blond, shaved, put on rock and roll clothes and stuffed the copies of my application in a hole through the pockets of my jacket which hid the documents in my back.
i looked nothing like the attorney who had been in the hughes justice complex all week in new jersey.
but i made one mistake.
i had my electronic passport in my sneaker. i walked into union station to purchase a $35 trolley ticket and probably set off an RFID tracker.
i waited outside of union station for the trolley. at approximately 2:45 pm, just after i had purchased my ticket inside the station, i was sitting next to a white homeless man with a grey beard in his 50's. he had two shopping carts full of clothes, food, radio etc., apparently his life possessions. we were the only two people sitting on this stone circle just outside the station. suddenly, the homeless man starts gibbering some kind of weird code. he sounded like this,
"echo one four two seven, target is in the building, repeat target is in the building ..."
then he paused and i looked up and a big suv had pulled up right next to us, and two BIG mofos in yellow gold shirts got out of the SUV, opened the back door and started putting on body armor and packing mega heat ... all the while they are scouring the area for the "target".
the homeless man is talking to them through a device in his battered shirtsleeve,
"no point in wasting time, i want to get paid for this, target is in the building ... ok, but i thought you might want to just get the target, repeat — target is in the building, target is in the building. stop wasting time out here."
he was mixing in code talk with things i could understand.
finally, these blackwater types in yellow who had no badges or official insignia head into union station carrying full weapons.
i'm having a heart attack. they looked straight at me at least twice but i looked like such a clown. if they were looking for the brown haired bearded intellectual looking lawyer guy who was in court that week there's no way they would recognize me with shocking platinum hair in my face, a dayglo blue jacket, flared jeans and trainers.
i am a chameleon.
but you're not really ... y'know ... if they're really after you:
on january 16th i was supposed to be in philadelphia for the liberty bell open chess tournament. but i had car trouble on my way back from las vegas and that delayed my arrival at the tournament by a day. i arrived on january 17th and to my astonishment was shocked to hear that obama had stayed in the same hotel as the tournment -sheraton city center – and had just left the premises two hours before i arrived. he took over three floors with security and bomb sniffing dogs everywhere.
... i do not believe obama showing up at the liberty bell open – three days after my citizenspook blog was hacked to show an extremist vibe concerning the bombing of government buildings – could possibly be a coincidence.
i have to report this activity to protect myself. coincidences like this are just too far removed from accidental nature. i belonged at the sheraton city center. i won the damn tournament in my section and a $705 check for 1st place. i belonged there. i go to that hotel and stay there three times a year, the liberty bell open, the world open and the national chess congress. that hotel is a regular hang out for me.
obama did not belong there.
his stay there was the one and only deviation obama took from lincoln’s path during obama’s inauguration.
anything posted on the citizenspook blog after feb 21, 2007 was NOT posted by me.
obviously, the next big question for birthers is not: "can donofrio pull it off?".
the question is: "can donofrio stay on his meds long enough to even make it to court?"