Have you wondered what has happened to Adept2u? He wrote a TTFN diary to take a break, but subsequent communications with MeteorBlades has changed his ability to return. He was effectively silenced when his account was locked out by DailyKos Admin. He received one warning in the history of his DailyKos account and was then locked out!
Black people have been attacked on a regular here at the DailyKos. Adept2u was admonished by MeteorBlades for up rating a comment that pointed out a troll, a troll who follows Black participants through diaries leaving half bigoted and racist comments. I wonder why the troll’s account isn’t locked out.
I am Adept2u’s wife, also known as Sweetie. I have written few diaries because the atmosphere is not conducive to learning and listening especially towards Black people. I find it to be a rabble rousing exercise in futility to spend time here on the DailyKos, but that’s just me. Adept felt that he truly had an opportunity to reach one and teach one about compassion, empathy and understanding. Locking Adept’s account was a punk assed move and Sweetie wants revenge. If not revenge, at least sweet justice for making a usually peace loving mild mannered thinking man unhappy today. Ask me if I give a rat fuck if my account gets locked out. GBCW!
I have Adept’s password and he is at work. I am unhappy about this lame ass turn of events. I will publish the emails so that you can see MeteorBlades’s limp dick responses. NOTE: I didn't not call Meteor Blades a limp dick, I was referring to his responses.
Adept tried to give DailyKos an opportunity to grow and be inclusive to all, instead he got censorship. He gave Meteor Blades the opportunity to have a conversation about how it feels to be an African American participant and the environment in which we are allowed to express our views here on DailyKos in this so called post racial political climate.
Hey Meteor Blades you can ask someone not to disclose a conversation but we are not bound by law to do so. Ask Mel Gibson. It is my opinion that when Adept posted your email in a two day old diary, it pissed you off and you cut him off. It’s the loss of DKos. Adept has written diaries twenty rec listed diaries.
We prayed for Grace... and then smacked her face.
Adept2u: I’d Like Clarification for a warning I Received
I just got a warning about uprating insults against a comment Wamsutta. I don't
actually recall doing so, and when I checked through my upratings didn't see the
uprating of any insult. More troubling to me appears to be the Kos'
administration policy where I end up getting warnings and haven't been any kind
of aggressive or insulting. Quite frankly the turn Kos is taking in regards to
this is quite disturbing. I do love Kos, but I am truly starting to feel as if
my and that of most Black contributors aren't welcome.
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Adept2u: You may disregard previous email
I have seen now where I uprated a comment that was in response to a person who routinely trolls i.e. follows others around diaries especially those of color and tosses out half bigoted and totally unproductive comments, but in America you can do that. It had always been my understanding that trolls were about fair game, but I can see how I was mistaken. I would like to suggest that greater attention get paid to issues like that by management, and let you know by months of inaction or action only on the side that would like to be reasonable the Kos has fostered such an environment to exist.
I understand the magnitude of your job; however the Daily Kos is turning into a cesspool. At some point you folks are going to have to decide if you are a website supporting Dems. and the President or not and make the decision well known. I love the Daily Kos, but I will be honest in saying I'm about to leave it. I'm considering it because it has become a hostile place for Democrats such so that I can no longer tell what is acceptable to say anymore.
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Meteor Blades: From Meteor Blades
So now you're saying that I am racist in my moderation because I dared give you a warning?
Since July 1, people across the DKos political spectrum have been receiving warnings about their behavior. You have not been singled out. People you have engaged with - Wamsutta and Betty Pinson, among them - have also been warned. Some people have had their ratings privileges suspended or ended. A handful have had their posting privileges suspended or ended.
I am not suggesting, in any way, that you cannot defend yourself against racist comments and general shit-stirrers. On the contrary. I EXPECT you to exercise this right. But if you're going to call people names, even when provoked, you (like they) will be warned. And, if the behavior keeps being repeated, further action will be taken. Criticize the content, the behavior, not the person.
Tim/MB
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What? Where did Adept call Meteor Blades a racist?
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Adept2u RE: From Meteor Blades
No,
I in no way implied you were a racist. This seems to be a popular response when issues of racial sensitivities are brought up on your site rather than address the nuance of the conversation, defensiveness against being called a racist is raised. I have never and I mean never called any commenter or person from the Daily Kos a racist, and should I choose to I certainly know how to use my words. I made no comment on the audacity you showed or if it was a dare if I received a warning. I in fact didn't know why I received it, which was why my first message to you was I didn't know what comment caused it, then I wrote one immediately afterwards stating never mind when I found it. I take all warnings or all issues with the spirit they are given. I, quite frankly, don't know what lines are fair to cross as the comment that sparked it didn't occur in a vacuum, and if a troll states fuck you I truly thought it was fine to at least uprate a fuck you back, which is what my warning was about, not any comment I made but an uprate of a comment. Which brings me to a point, in the diary that caused wamsutta betty pinson and a host of others to stalk the non white members of the community into a community diary after diaries I saw an insult uprated over 135 times. If I am stating anything about the level of Kos administrator sensitivity it's not that they are racist it’s their frame doesn't allow them to see the insult. I saw in the Sistahspeak where you stated you didn’t necessarily have time to go back and read comments or see who was stalking whom and for how long before you meet out punishment, and I'd like to ask that you should spend that time.
Now I have no idea what sort of discipline you meet out, but I can say I have at least for the last 2 months been a purposefully tame commenter, yet I am regularly personally attacked and I never see the kind of attention you seem to give to those commenters who are non white. If you need I can supply you links to at least one a day and to be honest since I never saw any response from any administrator I'd just assumed it was fair game.
On another note this isn't the first time you've come to me with what I'd call a not friendly approach, and although I don’t hold myself out as anything at all important I think I've had enough work where a little respect is warranted. I believe the accusation of racism on your site requires strict proof. I'd like you to now provide that proof of me stating you were a racist in any of the 2 correspondence I've sent to you on this matter.
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Meteor Blades: RE: From Meteor Blades
Albert,
I fully respect you, and I have shown that repeatedly with the 4s I have given many of your comments. I don't hand these out promiscuously to anyone. Nor do I do so with warnings.
I did the opposite of a non-friendly approach with my email to you. I explained in full my rationale. I explained where you had crossed the line and made clear that you have every right to challenge people YOU think have crossed the line. Most users never get such an explanation. If I were unfriendly toward you, I wouldn't have engaged you in this way.
I do, however, object to this comment, since you asked for an example:
"I know again that justice must have been served the same way I know how the Amerian Criminal justice works against people of color. The rules applied without justice."
Having served a total of more than three years incarcerated, being an enrolled tribal member, and having in the past reported as a journalist on courts and cops for several years, I'm fully familiar with how the criminal-justice system works against the poor and people of color in this country. I am hardly a defender of white-skin privilege on or off the site.
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Adept2u: Re: Meteor Blades
Tim,
It's perfectly fine for you to take offense at that comment and I wish you had addressed it so I would have the opportunity to explain it.
"I know again that justice must have been served the same way I know how the American Criminal justice works against people of color. The rules applied without justice."
I'm aware of your racial make-up I enjoy reading your material. The issue isn't your racial make-up and the kind of injustice that the American Criminal justice system meets out is done by all races of it's participants. I'm sure your time in the criminal justice system showed you that the cops are all blue. In this case the issue in my eyes is that there are a large number of people who don't appear to be admonished publicly they exhibit the same behaviors on a consistent basis, but the people who seem to disappear are not them but the non white commentors who have just had enough. I never took offense to the warning. I didn't know what I did, and when I saw it I took it, it is in keeping with "the rules" I accept it, but that's when I ask if spirit and letter are the same thing.
I appreciate your writing back on this matter. A lot that has been going on lately on this site has disturbed me a great deal, and I actually think I'll be taking a hiatus.
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Meteor Blades: RE: From Meteor Blades
I'm sorry to hear you'll be taking a hiatus, Albert.
Perhaps on your return, we can discuss these issues more.
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Here’s the plot twist!
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Meteor Blades: Unfuckingbelievable...
(Hey Meteor Blades, I am sure you aren’t supposed to place explicatives in the title)
You are now posting private correspondence between us?
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Adept2u: RE: Unfuckingblievable...
I posted what I posted, and apologized underneath it. I outlined the reasons why and yes I did it. I didn't think you were saying anything that you wouldnt want to be made public. The conversation went a long way towards explaining the seemingly glaring inconsistencys in the way moderation is handled on your site. I wasn't aware we were the type of friends that share that type of intimacy that has private e-mails, and in fact the two conversations we have shared have been in my opinion adversarial and unwarranted, I was unsure if my first impressions on this second incident were correct which is why I wanted to discuss them with people I love and trusted in a 2 day dead diary.
Now Tim, Mr. Meteor Blades this is strike 3
I'd like to point out that this message is illustrative of my point of adversarial nastiness.
Unfuckingbelievable is not a way any person who would correspond with me on a private basis would address an e-mail. If you actually did take the time to read the threads you would have seen I acknowledged my error, and having done so, you might have noted that. Instead you address a grown man as if he is some teen aged kid you are admonishing. I am no Kos Kid I'm a 45 year old professional man, and had anyone in any sort of business nature spoken to me like this I'd have his ass.
We will continue this conversation, or rather I will but it will be in public and in diary form. I'm off your site it had been a TTFN but with this conversation the title of my next and last diary will be GBCW so you will recognize it. I'd like to have your permission to include our conversation as it will be the basis for it, and if there is anything you'd like to edit redact or add to it, I'll give you the opportunity.
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Well Meteor Blades squashed that plan!!! Meteor Blades opted for locking out Adept’s account rather than having a discussion about the issues.
If Adept had the opportunity I am sure that he would like to thank everyone for the emails of support.
Namaste