The Silence of Jesus on abortion
What a person says is telling when a person says something but does another thing we assume he is lying, that he does not mean what he says.
What a person lies about and why he lies is telling a person wants something but does not think the truth will get him what he wants.
What a person is silent about is also telling it means they either don’t care, don’t know, or some force fear usually is acting upon them to compel their silence.
Jesus’s silence on abortion is telling. Its not like he was unaware of the practice Greek, and Roman medicine was quite aware of birth control and abortion. (facts listed at end of article)
Its not like Jesus was afraid he died on a cross for his beliefs. Its not like some force or fear prevented Jesus from speaking about Abortion he was the Son of God the Devil could tempt him but never had power over him.
Conclusion Jesus did not care about abortion as a moral issue and the Catholic Church, heck too many churches too list are wrong on this issue and cannot claim that Christians followers of Christ are wrong to use birth control or have an abortion because Jesus never mentioned it.
Point to me where Jesus spoke against either Birth Control or Abortion in the bible? Though some Christians seek laws against it!
Point to me where Jesus said that Woman should risk their lives or sanity to carry a child? Though some Christians seek laws to force it!
Point to me the parable where Jesus says a woman who was raped must carry the rapist’s child? Though some Christians seek laws to force it!
Did Jesus ever give a parable about the farmer who was wrong to pull the weeds from his field that took root there?
Did Jesus ever say even weeds were created by God and that all God’s creation was sacred?
If weeds are not sacred then how much less so a rapists child? If the farmer for what ever reason decides not to pick a weed yes people will wonder and talk but in the end its the farmer’s choice.
But once that choice has been made do we expect the farmer to fertilize, and water the weed?
No but once a child is born we do expect that of a mother. We expect that of society for we are all our brother’s keeper.
We are the only first world nation without national healthcare. We are the richest nation in the world but even pregnant mom’s who want babies have less healthcare than women in nations much poorer than their own. America’s infant mortality rate is a sad sick joke the rich look on as children who are wanted die but insist that unwanted children must be born!
Look not on the sins of others for casting aside a possible life and instead tend to the crops that you want to grow.
A farmer who lets his weeds grow but does not tend to his crops starves.
I have seen farmers plow under crops they themselves planted but decided were not coming out good and plant a new crop. Is that not like having sex with someone and then deciding later that no you don’t want a child? Abortion of a child even when the sex was consentual is no different.
Facts on a history of birth control and abortion.
John M. Riddle, Contraception and Abortion from the Ancient World to the Renaissance. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1992. Pp. x + 245. ISBN 0-674-16875-5.
Riddle then discusses at length the abundant but neglected evidence in Dioskorides and Soranos (16-56) for herbal (oral) contraceptives (ATO/KIA) and abortifacients (FQO/RIA). These chapters ought to be required reading for those who believe that the conceptual world of Greek medicine is wholly alien to and disjoint from ours. First, laws and precepts from Plato to Talmud show that ancient people believed that oral contraceptives worked to reduce fertility (16-20), and they distinguished contraception from abortion (20-24). Riddle evaluates the prescriptions of Soranos 1.61-3 by reference to numerous modern pharmacologic studies which show that nearly every plant claimed as contraceptive by Soranos and which has been tested, in fact works
From Hippokrates to Galen, Greek medical writings contain a variety of contraceptive prescriptions, whose known ingredients when tested show anti-fertility effects (74-86). Such knowledge was acquired in the same way that we have learned over centuries and millennia which plants are edible, cure headache or heart trouble, etc. (87). Observations of low fertility in animals by herders allowed further discoveries (88). In the Late Roman Empire and Early Middle Ages the tradition survived, albeit weakened, in standard medical texts (89-107). The difficulty was the Roman Church’s well-known opposition to abortion and contraception: yet in Macer’s influential XI-A.D. herbal, pennyroyal is still given as a birth control herb (108-117).
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The law of homicide in the Torah, in one of its formulations, reads: “Makkeh ish…” “He who smites a man…” (Ex. 21:12). Does this include any many, say a day-old child? Yes, says the Talmud, citing another text: “…ki yakkeh kol nefesh adam” “If one smite any nefesh adam” (Lev. 24:17) – literally, any human person. (Whereas we may not be sure that the newborn babe has completed its term and is a bar kayyama, fully viable, until thirty days after birth, he is fully human from the moment of birth. If he dies before his thirtieth day, no funeral or shivah rites are applicable either. But active destruction of a born child of even doubtful viability is here definitely forbidden.) The “any” (kol) is understood to include the day-old child, but the “nefesh adam” is taken to exclude the fetus in the womb. The fetus in the womb, says Rashi, classic commentator on the Bible and Talmud, is lav nefish hu, not a person, until he comes into the world. Feticide, then, does not constitute homicide, and the basis for denying it capital-crime status in Jewish law – even for those rabbis who may have wanted to rule otherwise – is scriptural. Alongside the above text is another one in Exodus that reads: “If men strive, and wound a pregnant woman so that her fruit be expelled, but no harm befall [her], then shall he be fined as her husband shall assess…But if harm befall [her], then shalt thou give life for life” (21:22). The Talmud makes this verse’s teaching explicit: Only monetary compensation is exacted of him who causes a woman to miscarry. Note also that though the abortion spoken of here is accidental,
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It is telling that Jesus was silent about Abortion despite ample evidence that people called him Rabbi or Teacher and seemed to know much about the Torah and the Torah has much to say on the subject.
It is telling that Jesus liked to rant about everything he considered immoral but on abortion he remained silent despite it being obvious he had knowledge of the practice. Both as a student of the Torah and from his friendship perhaps more with Fallen Women.
It is telling that the Catholics and the other churches claim to represent Christ’s will and teaching’s on a subject he had no opinion on but had knowledge of.
The various churches have scholars much better than I they can’t claim ignorance so they are Lying.
What do they want from their lies that they can’t get with the truth?
They wish to make sex a sin a source of guilt they can use to control people with.
When we are born into this world, Nietzsche insists, we enter into a world depraved by slave morality. This morality, mainly the fault of the Christians, teaches the world to suppress their wrong or “sinful” desires. Although conservative Christians would never admit this, they have created a law on top of the Law. In fact, they too have become Pharisees, the very people against whom Jesus strongly spoke. This list of “do’s and don’ts” usually consists of don’t drink, don’t smoke, don’t watch R-rated movies, don’t play cards, don’t cuss, etc. and do go to church, do have a “quiet time,” do pray, etc. In fact, Scripture at best vaguely warrants these commandments, many of which are man-made.
As a person grows and matures under this regime, he begins to realize that this Law is impossible to uphold. The general population cries and moans over their failure and their need of grace. This tension, Nietzsche suggests, is where the battle lies. As this internal struggle between right and wrong wages, a person starts to lose confidence
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Its all about control established by guilt and the church is the cure for guilt.