The truly sad part is that there is some truth to what they’re saying. I also believe in the reports about MK Ultra and doubt the guilt of Sirhan Sirhan in the murder of RKF Sr. George Bush’s use of Black Siteis to implement torture and his lies about WMD to implement the Iraq Invasion are valid issues. About half the issues that he brings up — have legitimate merit.
But then again, the other half don’t and unfortunately he doesn’t know which is which. And none of that explains why anyone attacked the Capitol.
He’s completely siloed himself off from regular Mainstream News because he presumes it’s all biased disinformation. And again, he’s half right about that. Some of it is biased, some of it is intended to drive false narratives. But not all of it. Quite a bit of regular news is perfectly legitimate.
For example, toward the end of the discussion, Luke brings up the issue of Fake Electors that were used by Trump to try and steal the 2020 election from Biden.
Chansley literally does a double take of disbelief and non-comprehension. He’s never heard of this. He has no idea what it is. Then he goes “Oh, that’s what the Government says?” And he dismisses it.
Yes, that’s what they’re saying in court with the Jack Smith and the Fanni Willis Rico cases. They had to investigate the issue, they had to present it to a Grand Jury and have that group of citizens vote to authorize an Indictment. They’re putting the issue before a Judge and Jury and they need to prevail beyond reasonable doubt in order to win their cases.
Sidney Powell who championed the fake election stories has already pleaded guilty. Trump’s lawyer during the entire election scandal Jenna Ellis has already pleaded guilty. Kenneth Chesebro who helped implement the fake elector plot has already pleaded guilty.
And Chansley knows nothing about it.
In this nation, we vote to select representatives and to put forward initiatives. It’s part of our civic duty to be informed. That’s how we participate in Democracy. If you are only listening to half the story — you don’t have the real story. We all have a responsibility to listen to as many different views as possible, to sift through them, contrast and compare then come to a truly informed decision as to which view is the most accurate and the most credible.
What Chansley is doing is like sitting on a jury in a courtroom and only listening to the defense and never paying any attention to the prosecution. “Oh, they’re biased — they have a narrative — nothing they say is true, none of it matters.”
But it does matter. Either side might be wrong on a specific detail but they might also be right about other details. Our job is to determine which is which.
The entire point of Trump criticizing Mike Pence was that he wanted Pence to reject the swing state electors and send the issue back to the states so those state legislatures could install the Fake Electors and make Trump President.
Using the Fake Electors to change the election results is Step #5 in John Eastman’s infamous 6-point plan to keep Trump in the White House.
5. One last piece. Assuming the Electoral Count Act process is followed and, upon getting the objections to the Arizona slates, the two houses break into their separate chambers, we should not allow the Electoral Count Act constraint on debate to control. That would mean that a prior legislature was determining the rules of the present one — a constitutional no-no (as Tribe has forcefully argued). So someone – Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, etc. – should demand normal rules (which includes the filibuster). That creates a stalemate that would give the state legislatures more time to weigh in to formally support the alternate slate of electors, if they had not already done so.
So he went all the way to the Capitol, all the way into the Senate chamber and he really didn’t even know why. He really didn’t know what he — or Trump — was trying to accomplish.
Also, he’s a liar.
Jacob claimed to 60 Minutes that the “Police waved people into the building” which allowed him to enter the Capitol. But that was a lie. The raw footage is here.
Jacob was among the first group to enter, directly behind those who jumped through the window broken by convicted Proud Boy Dominick Pezzola. Those guys immediately turned around and started kicking the locked door open from the inside.
Seconds after that door was forced open — Jacob entered. [Ironically this was footage that Tucker Carlson was “unable” to locate, but it *was* included in the surveillance film he was given by Kevin McCarthy] This is part of why Chansley was jailed for as long as he was.
It’s also highly likely that Chansley was referring to this video which supposedly shows a Capitol police officer waving the crowd forward -- but that is a trick of the camera angle. He’s actually waving for other police (who are off-camera to the left) to fall back. Falling for stupid mistakes like this seems to be their stock and trade.
When Ray Epps said “We need to go Into the building” he testified to Congress that he thought the building would be open, just as it had been on a previous visit where he went into the Rotunda. He didn’t know that the Capitol was closed to the public due to Covid19. The entire conspiracy that Epps was the one who started the fight with police falls apart when you know the facts. [Plus there were two fights, one on each side of the building Epps was only on one side, but some of the Proud Boys went around to the other side while pulling barricades out of the way and hyping up the crowd. Epps didn’t do that.]
If they wanted to ultimately win the argument about Epps, they would need to account for his testimony which is also the same thing he told 60 Minutes. But they don’t even bother, they don’t even pay attention. They already think they have the answer.
Right now, Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) is claiming that there was a rioter who “flashed a police badge” showing that he was really an “undercover instigator” — but that guy didn’t flash a badge, it was a vape pen. And he’s been prosecuted and convicted showing that he wasn’t a police officer at all.
Lee on Sunday promoted a post on Twitter that falsely claimed that January 6th rioter Kevin Lyons was flashing a badge while in the Capitol, indicating that he was actually a law enforcement official.
"I can’t wait to ask FBI Director Christopher Wray about this at our next oversight hearing," wrote Lee in response. "I predict that, as always, his answers will be 97% information-free."
In reality, as reported by NBC News' Ryan Reilly, Lyons was holding a vape in his hands in footage taken during the Capitol and he was recently sentenced to four years in prison, which indicates that he was certainly not an undercover federal agent.]
Steve Bannon is encouraging Speaker Mike Johnson to have yet another J6 Committe in order to finally prove the election was “stolen.”
During his Monday podcast, Bannon said "elites" were guilty of "treason" because they were prepared to enforce digital ID cards and refused to seal the southern border.
"They run the country, are guilty of the worst crimes of treason in the history of this nation," he opined. "And Speaker Johnson must step up to the plate."
"We need immediately a new J6 committee to get to, and I think [to] get to the bottom of the stealing of the 2020 election and a place to adjudicate the facts, wherever the facts may go," he continued.
Yes, they are still beating that dead horse. You'd think that after all this time, almost 3 years later, there’d be a shred of credible evidence by now. But nope.
Just like Chansley, Bannon believes that only yet another investigation needs to be done and finally “uncover the hidden truth” that the elites don't want you to find. “Elites” in this case would be actual professional investigators and prosecutors who have already “Looked” and found Bupkiss. Nada. Zip.
This is what happens when you only listen to one side of the argument. It’s like listening to the sound of one hand clapping. It’s meaningless. And yet, they continue to believe these fantasies. They continue to believe these delusions when the facts — from the Government and Mainstream Media — clearly show that they are wrong.
This is why everyone says they are a “Cult.”
In order for Chansley to be right at the front of the pack of rioters — he would have had to be part of the crowd that was fighting with police for over an hour. Even if he didn’t engage in the fight himself, it had to be happening right in front of him. He had to have had a close-up view of the violence.
This video — from the New York Times — shows that the initial breach of the barricades, and the fences with big signs that said “AREA CLOSED”, was at 12:57. Dominick Pezzola was the first to breach the Capitol smashing the window with the stolen riot shield at 2:15 pm.
The crowd and the police were FIGHTING each other during that entire time until the Proud Boys were able to fight their way up the stairs under the scaffolding. Chansley was one of the first people up the stairs, and it was on the terrace at the top of the stairs that he entered the building behind Pezzola.
If all that violence hadn’t happened, Chansley doesn’t get into the building. He doesn’t get to enter the Senate chamber, he doesn’t get to write a threatening note to Mike Pence and he doesn’t get to saunter out calmly while Police quietly follow, gently trying to escort him out of the building [In the footage released by Tucker Carlson].
None of that happens without this fight happening. Claiming this was a “peaceful protest” is fucking nonsense. All the “peaceful” people who wandered around the Capitol were only able to do so because of the actions of the Violent People who paved the road for them.
Mike Johnson releasing “40,000 hours” of additional footage from the Insurrection will not erase this fight. It doesn't matter how many rioters were “polite” or “calm” or “courteous” once they got into the building. They wouldn’t have been IN THE BUILDING if not for this battle which injured 150 police officers and ended up with 9 people dead.
The point here is that people like Chansley, who blindly ignores and denies reports by the Government and Mainstream Media, and of course the New York Times who put this video together from the cellphones of the rioters themselves, out of hand are missing half the story. There are large giant holes in their belief structure and they don’t even realize it. They don’t even care.
As I’ve said before these people think they are the “informed and enlightened ones.” They are not. They think they have special insight, and their own “unique truth.” They do not.
Look at how haughty he is with Beasley. How arrogant. He asks “Were you there? Then how do you know? You only saw it on TV? Video? Yeah, sure.” He’s Mr. Know-it-All. He taunts and treats Beasley like he’s an ignorant child when it’s Beasley who is accurately recounting the facts.
And again, the sad part is that Chansley seems like a highly intelligent person. He sounds like he’s spent some time and effort studying what he purports to be an expert of, unfortunately, because He Has A Bias he simply doesn’t know what he doesn’t know. And that’s where the House of Wet MAGA Conspiracy Cards he’s constructed in his mind, simply doesn’t hold up.
Not against the weight of actual facts.
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