There’s not much Trump can say that surprises me but I have to admit I could hardly believe it when I saw this story in HUFFPOST this morning:
Excerpts:
Former President Donald Trump went off on a bizarre tangent on Thursday where he denied enjoying “golden showers” and even suggested that former first lady Melania Trump would agree it’s not something he’d like.
“I’m not into golden showers,” Trump said unprompted in a private speech at the National Republican Senatorial Committee retreat, according to The Washington Post. “You know the great thing, our great first lady — ‘That one,’ she said, ‘I don’t believe that one.’”
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Ex-FBI director James Comey, who was famously fired by Trump, wrote in his book that the former president had an obsessive interest in the allegation.
“I’m a germaphobe,” Trump told him, per the book. “There’s no way I would let people pee on each other around me. No way.”
The HUFFPOST article includes choice Tweets posted in response to this news including one from anti-Trump conservative Bill Kristol:
I don’t agree with those saying, “Oh, this must have made the senators squirm and the donors uncomfortable.” Nah. Those guys like that kind of locker room talk. The thrill of the transgressive and all that. Trump’s crudeness and vulgarity send a tingle down rich Republican legs.
This is what the always acerbic anti-Trump conservative Rick Wilson tweeted:
I did NOT have Diaper Don's Golder Shower Defense on my Thursday night bingo card.
From the archives, here, with minor editing, is my diary from 2018:
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A new to me website published by the Sociology Department at the University of California Santa Barbara called SexInfo Online saved me the trouble of translating more technical language into a form more accessible to a general readership not already familiar with urophilia. Here’s how they describe urophilia:
Urophilia, also known as "golden showers" or "watersports," is a sexual variation where people derive pleasure from urine or urination.1 The arousal is associated with smelling, feeling, or tasting urine, as well as urinating on someone or being urinated on by someone else. Sometimes, the pleasure derives from the physical urine (i.e., the warmth and the smell). Other times the person associates the urine and urination with intimacy, closeness, and trust. Urination can play a role in sadomasochistic activities, where the sadist will demonstrate dominance by urinating on the masochist. Some women find that their orgasms are more intense and pleasurable when they have a full bladder, or when they urinate during orgasm.
People who take part in urophilia are referred to as urophiliacs. Although urophilia encompasses a variety of behaviors and sexual practices involving urine, researchers have identified three primary functions of urine for urophiliacs: REFERENCE SEXINFO ONLINE
“Urophilia is listed as a “paraphilia not otherwise specified” (PNOS) in the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). REFERENCE SEXINFO ONLINE
Trump does seem to not meet the criteria for an urophilia paraphilia because he does not meet the following:
“Fantasies, objects, and behaviors are considered paraphilic when they are obligatory, result in sexual dysfunction, involve non-consenting partners, lead to legal complications, or interfere with social relationships. Experiencing interest in sexual activities considered to by atypical — such as urophilia — does not qualify as a disorder. Urophilic desires are only problematic if they cause distress or pose a threat to other individuals. Experimenting with golden showers is healthy, as long as it is between two consenting partners and appropriate safety precautions are practiced. The key to this type of sexual activity is communication. One never knows if their partner is open to new sexual experiences unless they ask!” REFERENCE SEXINFO ONLINE
We won’t know what form of urophila turned Trump on until the tapes are released. Did it involve him urinating on someone? If so there’s a sadistic element if the person didn’t consent since we know he enjoys humiliating others. It could be his being urinated on though is germaphobic seems to rule that out. Could it involve watching women urinate on each other or an object like a bed? A bed it has been reported that the Obamas slept in.
There are suggestions that he was aroused by watching women urinate, and that this was made more pleasurable by imagining the Obama's in the same bed.
While Trump’s urophilia may not be considered a paraphilia, he does meet the criteria for having another one, and a more serious one since it is both a sign of his sadism and for him has led to breaking the law by assaulting women. I wrote about this on Daily Kos on Aug. 26, 2017: Trump, not just a malignant narcissistic, or a mere sociopath, but a sadist bully too. Interestingly, when I search Trump toucherism another Daily Kos piece came up: Trump's PARAPHILIA, by RCappers.
The closest Trump has come to physicality (that we know of for sure) is his grabbing women in the genitals. The pleasure, while it seems entirely sexual, it isn’t entirely. It also is enhanced by taking the woman by surprise. I think a case can be made that toucherism (below) is psychosexual sadism.
Toucherism is sexual arousal based on grabbing or rubbing one's hands against an unexpecting (and non-consenting) person. It usually involves touching breasts, buttocks or genital areas, often while quickly walking across the victim's path. Wikipedia
I’m not even sure that bullying occurs on a spectrum with the most benign not being a sadist, rather being someone who just enjoys intimidating others to those who get visceral — perhaps sexual — pleasure in doing so. I think all bullying is sadistic, just some bullies are more sadistic than others.
Read the comments to the original posting of this diary here.
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