Teen Mania Ministries is a great thing for our youth, or is it? To encourage teenagers to stand up to peer pressure and make sound decisions are what parents are for, but we all know safety nets are great for those who are less fortunate. What a lovely initiative whoever had come up with this Teen Mania Ministries. Well, that is what I thought at first.
I decided to look into this "Teen Mania Ministries" and I noticed a chat forum that was available from their page that I linked you to above.
"Revolution" was what they called the chat program. They even have their own
teenage bill of rights.
I wanted to talk to a member to get as much information as I could so off to chat I went.
Only a few were in attendance. One however did give me some answers to a few questions I had. The chatter went by the name tall_1 and I went by the alias seekingGod. You can view the last portion of the conversation over at COUP Community in the photo section. It would not let me copy and paste the entire text of the conversation so I was only able to save the last part of the conversation. I plan on going back in undercover again at another time when there are more in attendance to see what else I might find out from an actual member.
I found out Tall_1 was an intern for Teen Mania Ministries at one time. Immediately I zoned in on asking them the specific questions that needed to be asked. I asked what specifically did they do and never got a detailed answer. So I decided to ask if they targeted teenagers only? I went on to say I would assume your answer would be yes due to the name of the group itself being Teen Mania Ministries. The answer was, "Yes, the main target is teens."
I asked what would be the goal behind a religious group to make them target teenagers with such a powerful tool such a religion, why not target the entire family structure? Why would they alienate the teenagers from the family structure and only promote the teen membership?
"They are the future," was the answer I was given.
"They will turn into adults," was another answer given.
I asked if they ever worked with Ron Luce and the answer was no. I asked if they ever met him, the answer was yes.
The most interesting part of the conversation was when it directly focused on Ron Luce. I attempted to make small talk so that Tall_1 wouldn't close off for a little while. It worked out perfectly. After a little while of small talk I then went back at asking the questions. Focusing on Ron Luce.
"I heard Ron Luce is a pretty good guy. But I heard he carries a gun for protection on the events he holds for the Battle Cry group. Is that true?" I posted.
Tall_1: "He is a great guy who has been blessed by God. To my knowledge I do not know if he carries a gun. He didn't strike me as the type to carry a gun."
I asked again about the agenda of the group headed by this Ron Luce.
"What would be the real reason a religious group would want to target just teenagers with such a powerful tool like Christianity? Why would a religious group be talking about revolution or be bringing military groups on a stage to ask teenagers to be "Seals for Christ?"
This is where the sheep got defensive. I only kept pointing out the hypocrisy. It was obvious at this point I wasn't there to join the group. I asked if the group wanted a theocracy in America?
Tall_1 posted, "honestly". I waited for the answer before I put anything else up and finally something crazy came up on my screen.
Tall_1: "I want a dictatorship. The only problem is finding the right dictator."
WOAH! I thought. I jumped on that one immediately.
"Would your group Teen Mania/Battle Cry agree with that answer?"
Tall_1: "That is my own answer."
I was still shocked that someone would actually admit wanting a dictator in America. So I asked if Ron Luce was the right leader they were looking for.
Tall_1 said they don't know enough about him personally to decide that. I explained that I chose to ask if he would be the right dictator due to his spiritual leadership of the Teen Mania group and the Battle Cry group, which now has memberships in the millions in America. They didn't reply to that. From here I thought it best to point out some facts.
I pointed out that Ron Luce, the leader of this huge movement is in fact on a political mission, not a mission from God and that none other than George W. Bush appointed him in 2003 to the White House. Yes Daily KOS readers I'll give you more about that after I finish up with this conversation in that Teen Mania Ministry Chat.
I then quoted some of the members from this Teen Mania Ministry group and posted the video for them to view themselves. They said the link didn't work for them. I wasn't surprised there! I then posted some of my own scripture to those who were sitting silently in the room just watching the conversation-taking place.
"Then the Lord said unto me, the prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake I unto them; they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought and the deceit of their heart" Jeremiah 14:14
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." Matthew 7:15
I go on and point out that the words put into these teenagers' heads are not words from God but from a group that has nothing to do with God. Comments being made by the members about liberal media certainly are not coming from a bible verse. They are coming from someone who is on a political mission. Someone who is building his own army of brainwashed teenagers I said. I knew it wouldn't make a difference what I was saying to this Tall_1 who clearly wants a dictatorship, but I was hoping what I was putting up in that chat room came across to someone sitting there silently watching the conversation taking place. The last comment I made before I left the chat was,
"Well I know those who follow a false prophet like Luce will burn in hell and this is what he is, he is fooling the sheep."
You will finally get to know who that guy is you heard so much about really is.
Now the stuff you've been waiting for....
The leader of this fundamental group Battle Cry is Ron Luce. He has created an army of brainwashed teenagers who call themselves God's Army. Our government was worried about David Koresh on a small compound in Waco, Texas but have not shed any light on this group that has millions of members holding events all over the United States speaking about being at war against everyone.
This is the largest fundamentalist group inside the United States today and it continues to grow. Ron Luce encourages these teenagers he targets to be "Seals for Christ" Don't be fooled, this group is a dangerous and it is targeting our teenagers at a vulnerable age.
Ron Luce often tells the members that, "Something drastic must be done." And, "This will be the generation that will rise up." These are teenagers he is speaking to. Very easily influenced. I remember what it was like being a teenager. Hell at age 27 I was almost drawn into one of these events myself. It is something that makes your hair stand up on the back of your neck as you look around at a crowd that is completely captivated with ONE guy up on a stage as if he was a rock star.
In this case the guy is calling for battle cries, asking for sacrifices, asking for drastic things to be done, bringing military groups onto the stage to play out staged events. They encourage these teenagers they target to be "Seals for Christ" I plan on attending the next event coming to my area in February and taking video of it. I will be posting it on the web too. This group needs to be exposed.
One group working very hard to expose this group is World Can't Wait
You know all the immoral stuff that has gone wrong with our society. (rolls eyes) Of course that falls on the "liberal" side of the spectrum, especially when a Christian group speaks. This is the stuff being said by the members of this Teen Mania/Battle Cry Christian group. (I am reminded a hundred times a year why I left the church and stay home with my bible and share a personal relationship with God on my own now)
"Women of this generation, I got to tell you right now, stop making yourself look like a slut, that is just going to promote people to just want to rape you."
A statement made by one Battle Cry "Christian" member. One of the members who believes that MTV and the "liberal media" supports. I kid you not. You can watch to video for yourself at Battle Cry.
Once you take time to view that 7 minute video take time to compose yourself as I did myself when I first viewed it on Current TV, which I strongly advocate everyone to start watching over any of the mainstream CONSERVATIVE SLANTED news if you can. You can learn more here at Current
I just can't write anymore on this at this time. It is late here and I have a lot to do tomorrow. Spread the word, THE TRUTH!