More evidence of a Republican meltdown in progress -- Florida preacher Bill Keller said that a vote for Mitt Romney was a vote for Satan. Americans United for Separation of Church and State has gotten involved, demanding that his tax-exempt status be revoked.
Mitt Romney is trailing in the polls for a reason. Romney's supporters can talk all they want about how Romney will gain in the polls when people get to know him better. And to some extent, that is true; he is now leading in Iowa. But the fact of the matter is that the reason he is trailing is because there is a certain pocket of right-wing fundies that will never vote for a Mormon for president, even though the two groups are ideologically similar.
Although we have had over divisions recently over Iraq, the fact of the matter is that they are nothing like the kind of divisons that are happening over at the Republican Party. And the hate, the vitrol, and the venom are on full display at the Free Republic:
I have a minister friend in Sweden. It is now against the law to speak out publicly against Homosexuality in Sweden.
8 posted on 06/02/2007 9:46:25 AM PDT by no dems (Dear God, how much longer are you going to let Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd live?)
Isn't it a wonderful thing?! In order for us to have one "right" guaranteed by the Constitution we must surrender another. For example. Liberals (Giuliani) seem to think that there is a clause in the Constitution that says there is a "seperation of church and state" which we all know does not exist that somehow trumps the Constitutionally protected "rights" of "freedom of religion" and "freedom of speech" which do exist.
What a topsy tervy world we live in eh?
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! (Isaiah 5:20)
RINO's and Liberals are such whiner babies.
I'll take that bet if Bill Keller is white. White radio or TV preacher cannot survive being a Democrat. Black preachers are another story. T.D. Jakes loves the Democrat Party and see nothing wrong with being a born-agin Christian and a Democrat..
Just goes to show ya how many religious/political whores there are in America who sell out for filthy lucre (entitlements).
I'd never vote for Romney because I just don't like the Mormon church.
Come and get me, IRS!
Oh. Wait.
They've already gotten me.
According to the left, it is a "violation of the separation of church and state" if a preacher says the wrong political thing, but it is not a violation for the government to censor the preacher.
Oh, come on!
Romney isn't satan!
He just works for him...
In any case, this preacher can say anything he likes.
Americans United for Separation of Church and State. Another Commie front. This is headed by the extreme leftist, the "Rev’d" Barry W. Lynn.
shouldn't it be
Hitlery/Satan 08!
Hitlery aka Hillary Clinton
I doubt you’ll find any supporters of a state-established religion here.
But, that is not what "the separation of church and state" means in the modern context.
It means that God, and anyone who serves Him, must be driven from the public square, and that any mention of His Name or His precepts must be mercilessly squelched.
Which, of course, is the opposite of what was intended by the First Amendment. Right?
??? Where the hell did you come up with this crap? I want to know where in the Constitution it says that I must give up one right in order to exorcise another. Can you provide your sources please?
The acknowledgment of the Creator, and reliance upon His providence, is the very basis of this republic. Feel free to click on my homepage, where you'll find that demonstrated by the preambles to the constitutions of all 50 states, and by the Declaration of Independence.
One more point, it isn't that the Americans United for Separation of Church and State objected to what was said by Bill Keller, it’s that they are upset that their true leader, Satan, was mentioned.
Heck, I'd just like to know where in the Constitution that it mentions "separation of church and state". All I have been able to find is a restriction on the US Congress ONLY regarding establishment and free exercise.
Those ten commandment monuments are well over a hundred years old and far more valuable than most of the junk the secular humanists and progressives litter our public buildings and property with. Seen the "art" at your local public library lately? One more thing. 86% of the United States population are taxpaying ‘Christians.’ What this means is that most of the money collected is collected from those you hate. If you are going to take my money then I want it back and I want to use it how I see fit without your rules and regulations attached to it and I certainly don’t want some group of simpletons telling me that I must give up my constitutionally protected freedoms in order get my tax dollars back.
The local paper posts his remarks:
Keller, 49, who has a call-in show on a Tampa television station and a Web site called Liveprayer.com, on May 11 sent out a ``daily devotional'' that called Romney ``an unabashed and proud member of the Mormon cult founded by a murdering polygamist pedophile named Joseph Smith nearly 200 years ago.
'' If the former Massachusetts governor wins the GOP nomination and the presidency, Keller's message added, it will ``ultimately lead millions of souls to the eternal flames of hell.''
And Mr. Keller is totally unapologetic about his comment, going on the attack:
***SATAN MUST BE VERY UPSET! A real tool of satan, Barry Lynn who runs a group called the Americans United for Separation of Church and State, has called on the IRS to investigate Liveprayer for my comments about Mitt Romney. Since I highly doubt Lynn even knows who I am, it would be interesting to know if it was the Mormons who put him up to this, or possibly the Christian leaders I named in that May 11th Devotional who are working for and supporting Romney. The fact is, my comments about Romney had nothing to do with politics, but with the fact he is part of a satanic cult that is leading people's souls to hell.
In the 8 years of Liveprayer, I have never endorsed a candidate or told anyone who to or not to vote for. I have educated people on what the Biblical position is on those spiritual issues that cross over into politics. People like Lynn are why most people are afraid to take a real stand against slaughtering innocent babies, redefining God's Holy Institution of Marriage, and special rights for those who choose to engage in perverted acts of sex, not to mention speak out against the cults and false religions of the world. Please be praying as our attorneys handle whatever may arise from this, as we press forward to keep bringing His Truth and the hope of Christ to this lost and hurting world.
That sounds like quite a bit of doubletalk from a candidate who purports to follow the Bible -- compare Romney to Satan and then claim that he doesn't care who you vote for or against. Last time I checked, the commandment against bearing false witness had not been repealed.
But this is going to be more of what you are going to see -- Republicans eating their own and pointing fingers as they continue to melt down and bleed support over Iraq. They are in the process of becoming more and more of a fringe party and more and more outside the mainstream of American political thought.
Despite the similarities between the fundamentalists and the Mormons, there is a sizable segment who would never vote for a Mormon for President. The fact of the matter is that many fundamentalists believe that their version of the Bible is the only correct one and that people like the Mormons are outside the mainstream of their version of the historic Christian faith. In their eyes, in order to be in the mainstream of that, you must believe the following:
--The Bible is the only true word of God;
--The doctrine of the Trinity;
--The crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus;
--Heaven and hell and eternal judgement;
--The literal return of Jesus;
--The Virgin Birth;
--The miracles of the Bible.
The problem with Mormonism for the fundamentalists is that it accepts the Book of Mormon as scriptural and that there is a whole canon of revelation that is not contained in the Bible. They see Joseph Smith as a prophet of God, which is anathema for the fundamentalists, because they think that there were no more prophets after the Bible was completed in 100 AD.
In fact, there are entire ministries that are devoted to rebutting groups that they see as non-Christian cults who do not believe in the Bible. One such person is Paul Derengowski, who does a whole series of tapes devoted to how he thinks that Mormonism is not Christian and Romney by extension.
He accuses Romney of misrepresenting his past, and then questions the honesty of Mormon apologists. He accuses Dr. Robert Millett of misleading people about what Mormonism stands for and accuses him of playing the victim. He calls them "weird" and Hugh Hewitt, a Romney supporter, "incapable" of discussing the problems of Mormonism. He goes so far as to say that Mitt Romney makes Clinton look like a choirboy. He calls Mormonism a "Church of the Devil" for believing that humans will be able to procreate in the afterlife after they become gods.
The modern Republican party was founded based on the mainstreaming of hate; its ideology is segregationism repackaged for modern consumption in a way that horrified even its architecht, Barry Goldwater. It was able to sustain itself for many years by directing its venom at Blacks, women, gays, veterans, and Latinos and disguising that venom. But that contains the seeds of its own undoing as well -- it was only a matter of time before that venom was turned towards its own "undesirables." They have been playing with fire for the last 40 years. But on the 40th anniversary of the rise of this unholy alliance, it seems like the fire they have played with has gotten out of hand and has blazed out of control.