First of all I'd like to start clearly by insulting a large group of people, but only because they're liars. Practically everyone wants impeachment. Practically everyone here in fact believes there is reason to call for impeachement. If I'm wrong and you don't know that... I don't believe you. YOU WANT IMPEACHMENT. You think it's embarrassing or bad timing to ask for it now, it's premature... whatever, but you can't deny "wanting" it.
You are lousy relativists so you have no access to the trivially easy simile to opposition to the war. We were not to oppose the war in 2003, remember, because we were supposed to wait and see how it goes, wait for those WMD vans that Colin showed us. If we broke that rule, we were traitors. TRAITORS! But we called for it anyway.
We're the detractors wrong, those saying it was pointless, the nation was pro-war? Was it really possible to stop this war? Um... well, you havn't yet stopped it yet, so I suppose there was a grain of truth to their claim your calls we "unrealistic".
Do you regret making the call, YEARS ago? Do you feel embarrassed by that?
It's called "Impeachment Porn" as a way to frame it, to give cover for those that oppose it. The metaphor:
"Impeachment Porn"
- Impeachment --> Sex
- Drumbeat for Impeachment --> Porn.
The structure is clear, no one wants to say they are against sex, it's much easier to be against porn. This is exactly the structure those that fear calls for impeachment need... precisely because they are not actually against sex, er, impeachment, and need this indirect mechanism to express their opposition.
Basically, people against impeachment porn would be flat out liars if they said they didn't:
- see reasons to impeach
- want to see impeachment
- understand where those calling for impeachment are coming from
Remember 2003? Opposing the war? No? You don't, you supported it? Never mind you then, I mean you there that remembers... ok, got it? Remember how fucked it feels to be called a traitor for calling a spade a spade? Remember how fucked it feels to be called a traitor for a SIMPLE matter of right and wrong? And you were right... the very ones accepting you were a traitor before now agree with you? DO YOU REMEMBER THAT FEELING? Do you also recall that so far, your opposition to the war has accomplished SQUAT?
Yeah, well, the progressive activists have that experience every fucking day for every fucking decade going back eons... with every common sense issue you can imagine. Not just things like Departments of Peace (how shocking!) but things like National Healthcare or, enforcing the laws of the land on the powerful.
We are told we're stupid, idiotic dreamers who should not ask for the OBVIOUS. We should shut up, "don't you know there are idiots out there denying the obvious?" we are scolded. Don't you fucking know they will never learn unless we teach them.
Listen, for an impeachment to happen there will be a long steady drum beat for it (someone call Tip O'Niell's ghost). Do you understand what I mean? It is a necessary condition to have a drumbeat for impeachment if there is to be an impeachment. If there is to be no impeachment, well then, there can be a drumbeat or not... but at least those calling for it are on record, just like we're on record opposed (impotently, I remind you self assured drebs) to the Iraq War.
You appear weak daily, you poorly fed Typical Democrat Strategist™. Where you say, "a minority can do nothing"... the Republicans obstruct and filibuster. They wasted not a moment wondering if it was a good idea to fight. That party is as wrong as can be on the matters of the day, but knows how to appear to have a spine. Democrats don't know this. They believe it might just be offensive to show a spine, that perhaps they will be made pariahs of the invertebrate society.
STOP TRYING TO IMPRESS INVERTEBRATES. This is America, we prefers us some vertebrates.
EXTRA NOTE:
In the old days this extra note would have been a separate diary, a related idea but a separate topic by most standards of topic taxonomy. I want to point something out to the people that want to up the standards here. They are so noble. They are so knowledgeable about what "looks good" and "looks bad" that they want to quiet "embarrassing" posts and "wastes of time". Time Lords they are. I will point out this only becomes an issue when someone is popular promoting one of these "embarrassing" (and sometimes "traitorous") issues. There is a strong conservative urge among some liberals to make things "better", the "way they ought to be", and tell the people what they ought to think, to hand out the candles they are supposed to hold, tell them where (not to) march. But this is the net roots, this is democracy, the power is in the people, it remains with the people even during terms. All proper political ideas come FROM the people, and are adopted by leaders, who may spread the message, but not dictate it.
We are supposed to be here asking what is important to people, and if it's impeachment, we are supposed to take impeachment on, pass it forward and say, "our roots are pissed about impeachment" even if we personally have to add, "I don't understand why anyone would want to impeach Bush, it's so illogical, but they just do... how strange, perhaps we should understand why" And then you do something to arrange that fact, to accommodate HOW THE PEOPLE feel, in this case, the LIBERAL people.
But no, everyone wants to fucking control other people's minds. Good luck with that but I'm certain it's the path to failure if only because what is success for invertebrates is nevertheless failure for actual mammals.
Frankly, it makes me look a bit down on those that fear and obsess against a Drumbeat for Impeachment, because it's as if they don't know what to say when some conservative opinion artist comes along and demands, "explain your allies..! har har, they want impeachment, how embarrassing for you!"... have you nothing to say? Can you not explain why your cousin feels this way about our president, why they think it's even a legal matter, not just opinion? You are tongue tied? stuck saying only "yeah, tres silly"?!?! Listen, it's fine that you are an invertebrate, there is a place for all God's creatures, but it might not be HUMAN POLITICS.
(for dkos, but from unrolled MLW)