Is there any more irritating fuckwad than Joe Lieberman? In the spirit of bringing democrats together, I would like to share this nugget. I found this link on firedoglake, and followed it to an interview with Lieberman on fox. I noticed it hasn't been picked up on here and thought that Kossacks were missing out on an opportunity to share some righteous anger with one another, and turn our attention from our primary infighting towards a REAL "Judas". The content of this interview is certainly no news flash, but it just reminded me how much I despise this jerk.
It will surprise no one that Joementum has McCain's back, but just to share:
KELLY: So, OK, it goes on and on. What about Obama's refined position that McCain supports a 100 troop presence in Iraq is inaccurate?
LIEBERMAN: Well, I think that - let me say generally that Sen. Obama doesn't come to this debate with a lot of credibility. Basically on the question of Iraq, John McCain has had the guts to stand out on his own arguing for what he thought was right. And it turned out that he was right about the surge working to improve conditions in Iraq.
If we did what Sen. Obama wanted us to do last year, Al-Qaeda in Iran would be in control of Iraq today. The whole Middle East would be in turmoil and American security and credibility would be jeopardized.
On the specific question of the 100 years, I think that's an unfortunate example of the way Sen. Obama has used it, of playing political gotcha with a national security question.
If you look what Sen. McCain said in that exchange at the town hall meeting - I believe it was in New Hampshire -- he wasn't talking about a long war. He would like to see our troops, as many of them as possible, come home as soon as possible from Iraq. But the fact is, we're going to need, as we have after every conflict we have been in, World War II, Korea, et cetera. We're going to want to leave troops there to secure the peace that our soldiers have won.
It's clear that that's what he meant. Anybody who says that John McCain is for a 100-year war in Iraq is either not informed or is intentionally trying to mislead the public. And I think Sen. McCain appropriately responded to that today.
"But the fact is, we're going to need, as we have after every conflict we have been in, World War II, Korea, et cetera"- Vietnam, Joe? Doesn't the war have to be over for an occupation to begin? Was "Mission Accomplished" the end of the war and the beginning of the occupation? Or was that Saddam's capture? Or his execution? Maybe the surge is the dilineation between "war" and "occupation". Any way you cut it, people are still dying and suffering, and will continue as long as we're there. I don't give a fuck what you call it. "Secure the peace"? Fuck off.
He goes on to say:
KELLY: With Sen. McCain, where it made some news because Sen. McCain confused the Sunni and Shia and made a comment that Barack Obama was all over. He came out -- this is video of him making the comment. Then you come up and whisper in his ear to correct him.
And Barack Obama comes out after this mistake and says, "We heard Sen. McCain confuse Sunni and Shiite, Iran and Al-Qaeda. Maybe that's why he voted to go to a war with a country that had no Al-Qaeda ties." And then the Democratic National Committee came out and said, "This raises questions over whether McCain can be trusted."
Your response, Senator?
LIEBERMAN: Well, just ridiculous. I mean John McCain knows that the Iranians are supporting Shia extremists, and that's different from Al- Qaeda. He misspoke. Every one of the other candidates for president at one time or another has misspoken. I have, too.
When I heard him do that, I leaned forward and I said, "I know what you meant to say, but here's what you said." But you know, what is really important about that exchange, if I may quote from the Bible, that wonderful challenge, "How is it that you can see the speck in your brother's eye but you don't see the log in your own?"
They made a big deal out of John McCain misspeaking. But what senator McCain was saying is Iran is training Iraqis who are killing American soldiers and that's what we should be angry about.
"I know what you meant to say, but here's what you said." RIIIIGHT, Joe. I believe you. I'll give this to Ol' Joe- he's not a flip-flopper. He made a mistake years ago, and damn it, he's going to see it through- even if it takes 100 years. Oh, I'm sure he thinks he's right. Here's the thing about Joe. He loves McCain, loves the tough guy Maverick thing. I think he wants to BE McCain. But here's the thing, Joe. You're not a tough guy. You're a pud. McCains a pud, too, but at least he's a tough guy. You are just a boring, irritating pud.