Great read that I found over at DU - the article is not at DU, the link is there, and this topic intrigues and worries me. What if the collapse already happened? What if we are living in a collapsed world? Do any of us doubt that the United States' economy would have collapsed if we didn't bail the banks out in 2008? My husband's cousin, who works on the docks in NJ, said that goods and food were just sitting on the docks, because the supermarkets were not getting the credit to move the food to their warehouses. Would a collapse look like this? Here is one person's opinion:
http://hipcrime.blogspot.co.uk/...
Every once and awhile I'll be listening to a podcast with one or the other writers specializing on the subject of Peak Oil or collapse and the subject of timetables will come up. When will the collapse finally be here, the callers ask insistently, almost pleadingly, so that they can finally justify their investments in freeze-dried foods, water purification tablets and solid gold coins. Inevitably the guest will demur, and speak more in general terms. But I'm going to be the first pundit to go out on the limb and assign a timeline for the collapse. Spread it far and wide, and let's see just how good my predictive powers are. Are you ready? Here it is:
Right now.
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What do they think a collapse is supposed to look like? It seems people just cannot just cannot get past the "Zombie Apocalypse" theory of collapse. They imagine hordes of disease-ridden folks dressed in rags stumbling around and fighting over cans of petrol and stripping cans of food from shelves. That's not what collapse looks like. It never has been. In fact, there's very little evidence that a Zombie Apocalypse style collapse ever occurred in the historical record. Instead we see subtle patterns of abandonment and decay that unfold over long periods of time. Big projects stop. Population thins. Trade routes shrink and people revert to barter. Things get simpler and more local. Culture coarsens. High art stagnates. People disperse. Expectations are adjusted downward. Investments are no longer made in the future and previous investments are cannibalized just to maintain the status quo. Extend and pretend is hardly a recent invention.
The part of this writer's argument that makes the most sense to me is what is going on in Europe. But I don't know. I read things like this sometimes and begin to think that maybe these people are all paranoid. Maybe I would be paranoid to think that there is some truth to all of this? What do you think? Truth? Craziness? Or somewhere in between.