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Bush Supporters of the Far Right: Cries from the Lake of Fire

Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 03:18:21 PM PDT

At Blogs For Bush, which bills itself as the Whorehouse... er, "White House" of the Blogosphere, the ever effervescent Mark Noonan writes about the DeLay indictment:

As our Sister Toldjah noted earlier, the "indictment" of Tom Delay is entirely bogus - from what I've read, Tom Delay didn't know about the perfectly legal transaction he is accused of conspiring to make. We have now left entirely the field of normal political conflict and entered a twilight world where fantasy is presented as fact and the only standard of conduct is "will it work?". This is not the actions of a political Party engaged in seeking a majority - it is the action of a Party determined to destroy its opponents entirely and sieze all power for itself...it is, in short, the stuff from which civil wars are made. [...]

I really do urge our Democrats to step back from the edge - you are sitting in a lake of gasoline and you are playing with fire. We on our side will only put up with so much before we start to pay back with usury what we have received. If you can't defeat Tom Delay in the electoral field, then you will simply have to accept him as Majority Leader of the United States House of Representatives - and you'd better start accepting political reality before things get really bad.

Mark... may I call you Mark? I feel when someone has shown me the insides of their own rectum, we're pretty much on a first name basis... I have some words for you.

Whitewater. Rush Limbaugh. "Drug Dealer" Bill Clinton. Swift Boats.

Vince Fucking Foster.

Playing with fire, you say? Because the indictments ringing Tom DeLay finally reached up that one, final step from his ring of closest advisers to DeLay himself? Because the SEC has launched a formal investigation into the same behaviors by Bill Frist that put Martha Stewart recently in prison? Because one of the single most visible, highest profile Republican money men has been indicted for fraud, is being investigated for client shakedowns, and has his close business associates being investigated for a mob-connected murder?

What utter cowardice. What pathetic anti-American pedantry. What laughable protestation. The crimes of campaign money laundering, of fraud, of conspiracy, the violation of the laws of the nation, to be answered with stern visions of potential gunfire if Democrats have the audacity to pursue it.

This is the world of the Republican Party, split open like a rotting pumpkin. Crime after crime after crime being investigated, all revolving around the Republican money machine. Every seed connected by the strands of money they share between them. Barely-laundered campaign money passed in the palm of every flabby handshake. Every player in boldface, underlined print in the Rolodex of every other.

And still, this same bottom-tier world of flag-waving supporters still obsessed over an extramarital sex act, but offended to the point of sad, blustering threats at the notion that crimes by gilded and worshipped Republicans are really still crimes.

Your party has set aflame the entire political landscape, and now, once burned, you warn sternly from the branches of a burnt-out tree about "playing with fire". You used the ashes of one of the great liberal cities of America, New York City, as war paint for your own sick, racist dreams. You shudder at a burning flag, yet are willing to snip-and-cut basic tenets of the Constitution as needed or convenient.

And now, you're outraged, not by any of the rest of it, not by anything that has come before, but because a few prominent Republican faces have -- shock of shocks -- been indicted in probes that have spanned years of investigation, and interrogation, and deposition. That, you say, represents the underpinnings of a civil war.

You poor, hollow, blood-painted clowns. Cheering the trials and failures of your country with the same pennants and giant foam hands that you wave at your favorite sports teams. Willing to accept the most outrageous of lies, if they are spoken from your favorite talking heads, and soothe your own notions of America for you, and only for you.

And as for the audacity of Democrats speaking up during this process... the redfaced, flatulent fury with which you declare Republicans off-limits to that which you so gleefully hurl yourself...

Welcome to the world of the politics of personal destruction, you tubthumping, chin-jutting, Bush humping gits. Welcome to the nasty and partisan world that Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Hugh Hewitt, Grover Norquist, Newt Gingrich, Tom DeLay, and a legion of insignificant lowest-rung toadies like yourselves nurtured into fruition daily with eager, grubby hands, and now look upon with dull-faced faux horror.

I know you hate me, and anyone else who dares disturb the thin strands of alternate reality in which George W. Bush is an intellectual giant, Saddam really was responsible for 9/11, the economy is getting better by the minute, and we capture the most very important members of al Qaeda on a weekly basis.

But here's some advice. You'd better start hating me more. This is the world you forged and, unfortunately for you, I'm beginning to take a fancy for it. Welcome to the politics of your own party, finally sprouting from the ground on which you planted the seeds and shat upon them.

Step back from the edge? You poor boy, asleep in the back of the car the whole trip, finally waking up and wondering where you're at.

Swift boats. Aluminum tubes. Niger uranium. "Mushroom clouds". Whitewater.

Vince Fucking Foster.

You can't even see the edge from here. You left it behind a hundred miles back.

So don't give me chest-thumping crap about civil wars, if your politicians are indicted. Don't give me visions of a lake of fire, if all those who find you loathsome refuse to suck at your teats of scientific ignorance in the name of religion, racism in the name of freedom, and corruption in the name of the New World Order.

Get used to the world you have created, and the stench your worshipped heroes have unleashed.

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  •  Yes! (4.00 / 14)

    Well ranted!  What else can I say?

    Do we have any figures on how scared they are? ~ MPFC's 'Mr. Neutron' episode

    by itsbenj on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 03:19:40 PM PDT

    •  http://tinyurl.com/8ghl8 (4.00 / 2)

      Apparently this Republican selling at cafepress only drank the koolaid on the harsh economic programs of the Republican Party

      http://tinyurl.com/8ghl8

      •  They see no crime here (3.93 / 15)

        I believe that is the crux of this particular conflict between our two sides. Republicans I talk to truly think that direct contributions from Corporations to Politicians is natural and right. We need to 'hammer' home that:
        1. Corporations have only their self interests and these are antithetical to the common good. (Pollution is good from their standpoint, if it lowers their cost of doing business.)
        2. Corporatism, where legislative power is given to corporations, is a cornerstone of Italian Fascism.
        3. If we want a country where the government looks out for the good of its people, we must keep a healthy distance between corporations and government power.

        Or else we are back in Italy, 1925
        "Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato." ("Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State".)  Mussolini.
        (credit to Wikipedia)
        •  Corporate Personhood (4.00 / 16)

          The United States is currently a corporate sponsored theocracy run by a very cynical and thoroughly un-American dominant class.  They've thrown in religion as a wonderful distraction for the masses - our time's bread and circuses.

          Corporatism IS the problem, and dismantling corporate personhood is the answer.  Corporatism could not be the many-headed hydra that it currently is without support from US law, law which essentially views a corporation to have the same rights as an individual citizen.

          Corporations exercise their "right" of free speech by outspending voting citizens in local, state and national elections time after time.  (I'll get back to you when my individual annual earnings are in the billions, and I can donate millions and millions to all my favorite candidates...)

          The most worrying aspect of all this is that these corporations are international and multinational, i.e. they have no vested interest in the success of any individual country (such as ours, USA), as long as they have freedom to operate their business inside a country free of as many restrictions as possible.  They are motivated by earnings, and the bottom line doesn't care if America succeeds or fails as a nation.

          Indeed, a good arguement can be made that corporations have long been preparing to abandon America to second tier nation status.  They have placed people in office for decades who have dumbed down the general level of education, starved the national infrastructure into desparate decline, created a small but significant oligarchy, and grown the underclass while squeezing the middleclass so hard with taxes that they have become 60-hour a week workbots trying to ensure that their jobs don't get outsourced.

          Indians and Chinese are viewed as the next great consumers, and their sheer numbers, as well as their dictatorial and/or corrupt governements, make them far more attractive to deal with than trying to rectify the impacts of greed on the long-term American economy.

          http://reclaimdemocracy.org/personhood/  

        •  Rule of law, rule of law, rule of law. (none / 1)

          Doesn't matter what anyone "thinks" is right.  In Texas, the law bars corporate contributions to political campaigns.
    •  Good Fucking God... (3.94 / 19)

      ...that was genius....

      beautiful...witty...vitriolic...verbose....

      buy this man a beer...Hunter has GOT it..

      Republican recruitment for the 82nd Chairborne at an all-time high...

      by topicalstorm on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 03:38:24 PM PDT

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      •  Sheepish Tip Jar here, I guess. (4.00 / 414)

        ... since people downthread are asking for one.

        On the bright side, I feel a lot damn better right now.

        •  This may be... (4.00 / 5)

          ...too subtle for them, Hunter. Beautiful job!
        •  Bowing virtual forehead to the ground... (4.00 / 7)

          We are not worthy.
          We are not worthy.
          We are not worthy.
          We are not worthy....

          "I'm not a humanitarian. I'm a hell-raiser." Mother Jones

          by histopresto on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 03:49:31 PM PDT

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        •  I am in awe. (4.00 / 20)

          I wish I could only think a rant like that in one stream of consciousness, let alone write it!

          Wow.

          You've just summed up five years of anger that I have harbored and let it explode in a single, pleasurable outburst that only consenting adults should engage in.

          Thanks, my man.  I'll be sharing this one far and wide.

          He who gives up liberty in exchange for security is deserving of neither

          by joby on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 03:50:52 PM PDT

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        •  We're not worthy.... (4.00 / 17)

          Magnificent righteous wrath, Hunter.  These freak-show rejects really need to get it with both barrels until Ann Coulter's Aryan features wither from shame, Pat Buchanan's jowls vibrate like a drum, and George Bush's head explodes from the pressure of all the crap jammed therein.

          Light the torch.  I'll gather pitchforks.

          Hanoi didn't break John McCain, but Washington did.

          by Dallasdoc on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 03:51:30 PM PDT

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        •  I regret that I have only 1 four to give... (4.00 / 25)

          This has to be one of my top ten favorite blog posts ever. Republican's always seem to accuse their opponents of their own crimes.
          •  It's called projection... (4.00 / 4)

            Ain't psychology grand??
            •  Damn straight its projection (none / 0)

              Look at how they act.  The engineer a situation that is all fucked up, gay marriage, moral decay, and other bullshit.  And who do they blame it on?  The liberals, the liberal media, the liberal college professors, the liberal judges and so on.  And they only have one solution to their fictional problems.  It isn't to end the problem, it is more power for themselves.

              Pride goeth before destruction, And a haughty spirit before a fall. Proverbs 16:8

              by PJ 7 on Fri Sep 30, 2005 at 07:21:49 AM PDT

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        •  I feel (3.80 / 5)

          a lot damned better, too.

          Very, very nice.

          Really nice.

          We are, indeed, not worthy.

          Je suis inondé de déesses

          by Marc in KS on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 03:55:14 PM PDT

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        •  hmm (3.87 / 8)

          hunter, i think you miss the menace implicit in this guy's post

          of course republicans are the real perps of these actions, that is not in dispute, not any more than that of hitler's claims that the poles were threatening the germans.

          his threat, though, is to be taken seriously, because look at what happened to the falsely accused poles . . .

          truthfully, i read noonan's piece, and i dont get angry, i get chills

          its hard to drink all day unless you start in the morning

          by The Exalted on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 03:57:12 PM PDT

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          •  I understand (4.00 / 2)

            Really, I do.  I feel that way sometimes too, until I remind myself that there are more of us.  More of the sane, that is.  More of the empathetic.

            I have to tell myself that some days or else I'd never want to go out of the house or talk to anyone.

            •  keirdubois (4.00 / 11)

              Also they're cowards at heart from Dear Leader on down.

              "There is nothing more stimulating than a case where everything goes against you." S.H.

              by Carnacki on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 04:11:53 PM PDT

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              •  True (4.00 / 4)

                Do we ever see any of them with their shirts off?  No, for their dull, dirty yellow spines would then be visible to all.
              •  Since they even enlist (none / 0)

                ...for a war they claim to dearly love, I'm not too worried.

                When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. -Benjamin Franklin

                by MissAnneThrope on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 05:07:32 PM PDT

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                •  Nothing New Here (4.00 / 9)

                  During Watergate some of Dick's die-hard supporters were screaming about blood running in the streets, etc.. Don't seem to recall any when Nixon took that last ride to San Clemente. There were rumors of Nixon plotting some kind of coup towards the end. But none of it amounted to anything and the Pentagon was ready to put any illegal orders from the White House on permanent Hold.

                  And when this clown act goes down like the Nixon crowd did, there'll be a lot of frothing at the mouth and nothing more. I mean, who's going to do the fighting on the other side? A military that's been treated like kitchen help for the past four years? Not likely. As for right-wing civilians--well, just cut off their Cheetohs and they'll surrender without firing a shot. We're not talking Army of Northern Virginia here. Au contraire. Swivel-chair hussars is more like it.

                  Whatever is real is different.-- B. Traven

                  by angry blue planet on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 06:47:57 PM PDT

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          •  Absolutely, (3.66 / 3)

            Rather than reading them the riot act, we should start calling the FBI on these folks, or local cops wherever the servers reside, and I hope someone has copied the Travis County DA...

            siamo uomini o caporali?

            by TOTO rules on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 04:54:13 PM PDT

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          •  I have the same feeling (4.00 / 11)

            The civilizing force in my life tells me I'm a little off sometimes, and given that she's a mental health professional she may be on to something.  Be that as it may, I do not lose sight of the fact that these swine want to take this country back to the gilded era, want to establish a hereditary aristocracy where they and their offspring can reign, want it more than anything else and quite frankly don't care who (other than themselves) has to die to make it happen.

            We all know the rush to war was absolute bullshit, of course.  The cakewalk and thrown flowers just pleasant fiction to sell the populace.  Members of the reality based community understood that.  But that doesn't preclude some of the neo-con whack jobs from actually believing their own words.  They may very well have believed, based on Gulf War I, that we could invade in early 2003, knock over our old puppet dictator and put a new one in his place, prop things back up and have our battle-hardened, urban warfare ready troops back on American soil ahead of November 2004.  Just in case of emergency...

            What if things hadn't gone well with the election and people decided to protest - really protest - the outcome?  Do you think this cabal would hesitate to kill several thousand Americans in order to further their goals?  Looked at the news out of Iraq lately?  Have you wondered why a group who manages such tight control over their people and their message managed to leave so many visible fingerprints on the election?  Maybe they believed the charade would be unnecessary and started their planning late, once the situation became clear.

            As so many people here have said, that's crazy.  Crazy doesn't mean it isn't accurate.  I agree with Hunter.  I will be God-damned if these fascist pigs are going to take the country my parents and their parents and so on back struggled to build.  If they want a fight, then I say bring it on, and unlike the coward in chief, I'm willing to say it without having 10,000 armed troops shielding me.  I would love to have this out in the open, instead of everyone standing around pretending to not understand what the other side is doing.  I've done some competitive fighting; let me give you one word of advice from that experience: don't ever underestimate your enemy.

            These folks are playing for keeps, and the worst mistake you can make is to forget there is no limit to how far they will go.  This is street fighting, carried to the boardroom.  Eye gouging is permitted.  Don't ever forget that your life means nothing to them, any more than our men and women returning home flag-draped.  You are a means to an end.  As our President is fond of telling us, he sleeps well at night.  If you were gunned down on an American street by an American soldier, they wouldn't lose a minute of sleep over it.  Read Noonan's post as a warning shot.

            So Mark, if I can call you that, I notice you've got a big, fat cigar in your mouth.  Want a light?

            No longer a Grand Party. Just an Old one.

            by EeDan on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 06:25:21 PM PDT

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            •  i dont disagree with anything you say (none / 1)

              but i get chills because i feel like, to the extent this noonan character is at all connected with the right mainstream, his little call to arms both follows and *is* the blueprint for republican intimidation, and, dare i say it, takeover. . .

              its hard to drink all day unless you start in the morning

              by The Exalted on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 06:34:00 PM PDT

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              •  It's worthwhile keeping in mind (none / 1)

                that this fascist comes from the Randall Terry end of the party. Inspiring others to violence is part of their M.O.

                The Republican Party: Reinventing government, the same way they reinvented New Orleans

                by QuestionableSanity on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 06:46:59 PM PDT

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                •  re:Yes (none / 0)

                  If you can stomach it, go to Blogs for Bush and read the comments.  My favorite commenter is the guy who thinks civil war is inevitable, and since it's obvious (to him) who will win, we might as well get it over with.  He makes a deeply cogent point about how the Carthaginians didn't much like it when the Romans kicked their asses, but hey!, that's history.

                  Another clever fellow argues that Bill and Hillary, whom the LLL (?) are always claiming are victims of the politics of personal destruction, are the true master practitioners.  Now let me see . . . I can think of about 50 conservatives that routinely attack Hillary's character.  It's actually difficult to think of a major conservative talking head that doesn't.  How many character assassinations can you remember Hillary perpetrating?

              •  Well said - I totally agree. (none / 0)

                This is a no joke chilling threat from sociopaths who cannot handle being challenged and so typical of the thugs who run this country.
          •  threat? (none / 1)

            Who cares?

            Honestly I don't give a rats ass about these pontzes threats.  If they feel that froggy they had better jump.  I have been waiting for the better part of the last 20 years for these limp dicks to finally screw up their courage to the point that they take a poke at the left.

            Not kidding, anyone with an eye for history and a nervous stomach could see the trend line....

            If you are really worried?

            Buy a rifle 250 rounds of ammo, and wait.

            If these gutless punks, these Goldbergian chickenhawks want to take a chance of a REAL civil war, they will not like the outcome.  As there are far to many former military in OUR ranks and far to many beer swilling good ol' boys in theirs.  I can stil put a quarter size group in a target at 500 yards, and can do so while under pressure.

            All in all a civil war might not be that bad a thing.. feed the tree of liberty with the blood of republican tyrants in training, and drive the whack jobs into the sea.

            But it won't come to that unless they are stupid and throw the first "punch".  The left is not known for that kind of thing, so they would have to be the initiator of the violence.  And in so doing doom them and their ideology to extinction.  And they know that!  That is why they will make these idle threats to spook you.  They want to make themselves look "bigger", so you don't notice that they have no teeth or claws to prevent you from making a meal of them.

          •  Don't bothered getting worked up (3.50 / 2)

            over the comments of  Nobody like Mark Noonan.  He's the idiot progeny of Ronnie Raygun's favorite Sunshine and Lollipops speechwriter Peggy, and apparently the both reside somewhere where the oxygen is just a touch thin, and reality is at right angles to the one we observe.

            As hunter says ths is the old Republican game.

              Its like the school bully back in grade school who'd attack you and then call you a sissy if you told the teacher; but on the day you finally stood up and gave him a shot right between the eyes, immediately went screaming for the principal.

            The funniest, most Ironic thing of all is that it was REPUBLICANS who used to declare in the middle 80's that Liberals were evil becuase they didn't believe in absolute right and wrong, and instead preached "situational ethics"...

            Knowledge is power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil

            by Magorn on Fri Sep 30, 2005 at 07:28:04 AM PDT

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        •  eloquent rant - music to my eyes! (4.00 / 5)

        •  BEST. FUCKING. RANT. EVER!!!! (4.00 / 4)

          Hunter, that was awesome.  Thank you so much for the cathartic release.
        •  Brilliant. Just brilliant. (4.00 / 5)

          I think I'm in love.  

          Liberal: "I still think it's a respectable word. Its root is "liber," the Latin word for "free," and isn't that what we are all about?"--Mary McGrory

          by mini mum on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 04:08:06 PM PDT

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        •  Reminding us all why (4.00 / 8)

          you were placed on the frontpage.

          F*ing brilliant.  Really and truly.

          As they like to say on the Eschaton comment threads:  Hit 'Em With A Chair!

          -- Stu

        •  no need to be sheepish (none / 1)

          You're deserving of any and all kudos you get.  This is how I would write if I could write well.

          just really tired of all the bullshit.

          by bitterguy on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 04:17:06 PM PDT

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        •  Hunter, hunter (4.00 / 9)

          You really need to re-write this in words of one syllable for them. /snark

          That being said - don't change a word.  It is perfection.  Well done!

        •  You say you feel better now? (4.00 / 5)

          Hell, I feel like I've had a thorough high colonic!  That was superb, Hunter!  Mes hommages and keep on hitting the high notes!

          It's the Supreme Court, Stupid!

          by Radiowalla on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 04:22:37 PM PDT

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          •  Ditto all enthused comments above (3.83 / 6)

            absolutely effing fantabulistic.  

            Just when I thought it couldn't get any better, it did, as you nailed them again, and AGAIN and AGAIN on every point.  Ahhhhhh.  

            And isn't it amazing that the minute their people are going down in flames, they immediately start threatening the eruption of some kind of fiery cataclysm?  These people live with their fingers so close to the trigger that I too wonder how far they will go when they realize that the game is completely, absolutely, and entirely up.  Remember Florida 2000 - when they sent their shock troops down to Florida to chant in angry unison outside the recount room and stab the air with pointy, manicured fingers.  Ohh! Said the RW pundits -  Gore's stubborn refusal to be a good loser is fomenting anarchy among the locals!  Yuhh.

            Ooo, I gotta read your piece again, Hunter - yum yum!  

            (Is there any way to provide a permanent link to it on the dkos front page?)    
             

            Reality addict - can't get enough of seeing it all clearly

            by writeout on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 04:41:32 PM PDT

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        •  I'm holding (4.00 / 8)

          a burning cigarette lighter up in the air right now after reading this.
        •  Fabulous (4.00 / 2)

          Hard to pick just one but i think this is my favorite.

          dares disturb the thin strands of alternate reality in which George W. Bush is an intellectual giant,
          Hunter 9/29/05
        •  Rantastic!!! (4.00 / 4)

          I'd like to hear that on the floor of the Senate.
        •  Hunter (4.00 / 4)

          Thank you.  Time and again you have put into eloquent rants my thoughts and fellings about this administration.

          Keep it up.  Your clarity on these issues helps save my sanity.

        •  addendum: "playback's a bitch" (none / 1)

          nicely done fella'

          nicely done.

          "There are many truths of which the full meaning cannot be realized until personal experience has brought it home." John Stuart Mill

          by kuvasz on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 04:47:34 PM PDT

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        •  Make love to me, Hunter (4.00 / 6)

          Make love to me and never EVER stop.

          This is the best thing ever written.  Fuck you Shakespeare and sit down Emerson.  Talentless hacks, both of you.  

          "Raybin is not a lying maniac. I've found this person to be an extremely clever and devious lying conartist, but never a maniac."--RElland on Daily Kos

          by Raybin on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 04:50:03 PM PDT

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        •  Bartender... DRINKS FOR EVERYONE! (4.00 / 4)

          A 4 for Hunter?... Hell... a 4 for everyone that even read it.

          Hunter has out-outraged Mike Malloy.

        •  You are... (4.00 / 3)

          The Master!

          None that rant come before you!  Hallowed be thy rage!

          ePluribus Media - Truth be told.

          by Stoy on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 05:51:44 PM PDT

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        •  Thanks Hunter (4.00 / 5)

          I feel your outrage and disgust, and I feel lot at better now that you expressed it.  You go!
        •  Thanks Hunter (none / 0)

          I feel your outrage and disgust, and I feel lot at better now that you expressed it.  You go!
        •  Note to myself (4.00 / 3)

          Never piss off Hunter or your ass is grass.

          Dana Garrett http://delawarewatch.blogspot.com/

          by Dana Garrett on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 06:09:20 PM PDT

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        •  I am weeping... (4.00 / 2)

          In both style and content, this was one of the best fucking rants I have ever read. I feel more alive simply from having gazed at the words. I feel stronger. I feel complete. I feel at one with the world and at one with the word. God bless you, dear Hunter -slayer of pundits and trapper of placaters. Rest your soul, for you must be tired from your journey.
        •  Hunter, it has been an absolute pleasure (4.00 / 3)

          to read your words of late. They capture my fury and feelings beautifully. Thank you.

          "Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." Mark Twain

          by mentaldebris on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 07:40:31 PM PDT

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        •  Thank you (none / 1)

          That was inspired!

          Have another 4.

        •  Can you O.D. on mojo? (none / 1)

          If so, hoping my 4 doesn't put you over the limit -- and wishing I had more of them to give you.
        •  Moon Shot! (none / 1)

          That post towers over any other I've seen on browser. I like a good rant such as Steve Gilliard cranks out once in a while, and I can write one myself, but something that magnificent would have taken me 3 days without food or smokes.

          That's not only the Moon Shot, but the Moon Landing. The Hope diamond of Democratic sentiment.

          And it's going on my wall. Thank you, Brother.

          •  "And it's going on my wall." (none / 0)

            Thanks for reminding me that actual paper is still in use, and very useful for some things. This is one of them. I'm hitting the print button next, and doing a copy machine run tomorrow to hand-out to friends.
        •  Vincre Fucking Foster... (none / 0)

          indeed!
            Wow! Just had to stop and say that is just the best freeeking rant I've read in... ever!
              Your visceral response to the ill-mannered blogger and the right-wing and their divisive, mean-spirited brand of politics over the last 25 years was a complete joy to read (not to mention they've been wrong on every issue of import since 1994 and the result has been the death of many for no good reason. - I will e-mail everyone I know with this.
            Thank-you and Mazeltov!

          As for Vince Fucking Foster, I could never understand how all these right wing people could get away with this particular smear and why no one was villified or taken to task for saying such horrible and false things.
            Can you even imagine the things that may have been uttered if Hillary had run over her boyfriend when she was younger?

          "You call this bicameral government? Hah!" - Homer Simpson

          by karlpk on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 10:08:25 PM PDT

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      •  God, Hunter is so hot! (4.00 / 4)

        I love the way Hunter types.  It's so damn sexy.  

        -3.63, -4.46 "Choose something like a star to stay your mind on- and be staid"

        by goldberry on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 04:51:09 PM PDT

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      •  Shake giant foam hands (4.00 / 4)

        with the devil. Well said hunter>
      •  Ctl C Hunter's rant... (none / 0)

        ...and send it to every rightwing talk show dickhead you know so they can get their audience good and fired up.

        Our problem is we haven't sunk our teeth into their collective asses.

        They ain't seen nothing yet.

      •  Well said! (none / 0)

        Beer, hell! Bring us a Bushmills and leave the bottle....
      •  What kind? (none / 0)

        Hunter deserves whatever beer he likes. So what kind is it?

        Seriously, this is a most excellent diary. It is a near perfect expose of the well-known GOP hypocrisy to which the MSM is, unfortunately, all too blind.

        Let's hope the American people don't share that myopia. Christ, at least Delay will get a fair trial. That's more than can be said for a lot of the victims of the great Republican attack machine.

      •  I just looked in one more time, and... (none / 0)

        have to be to work in a little less than an hour, so I can't hang out and read the 500 plus comments to this diary. So, while I'm doubtless repeating what's already been said better than I could ever hope to, that was an absolutely thrilling, gave-me-shivers-it-was-was-that-good, diary. Hunter just keeps surpassing himself in his ability to inspire, whether it be with righteous anger, or with hope. Okay, that's it, just wanted to add my two cents, time to head for work. I'll enjoy everyone's the comments in the morning.

        Alito. Kennedy. Roberts. Scalia. Thomas.
        More important than ever: ERA NOW!

        by greeseyparrot on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 10:49:54 PM PDT

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    •  I think he should (4.00 / 3)

      tell us how he really feels. I mean, he's obviously holding a lot back.
    •  Mighty fine oratory (4.00 / 3)

      Hell yeah. That is a fine oratorical piece. I know I'm sitting here in the ring of fire and I am all fired up.

      "United we stand, divided we fall"

      by Cassandra77 on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 04:48:49 PM PDT

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    •  Bring It!!! (none / 1)

      That's sweet Hunter.

      IOKIYAR! They believe markets and competition solve everything AND that the universe is centrally planned.

      by No One No Where on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 05:15:40 PM PDT

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    •  Revelations (none / 1)

      Prophecy!
      Exhortation!
    •  Agreed (4.00 / 7)

      Just read the whole thing to my husband, near to tears.  Impressed by the verbal beatdown (once again) administered to the self-righteous asses on the the other side of the aisle.  

      This is why I come here.  Hunter makes this site so worthwhile that I'm filled with warm-fuzzies, even when I disagree with him.  Hell, I my husband was just stunned.  He said, "I thought you gave a tongue lashing."  No way.  I bow down in awe and humbleness before the keyboard of Hunter.  I told my husband that it's sad the only other "person" I know who could do something this awesome was Julia on Designing Women and she's not even real!  

      Hunter, you are entirely on point and your post reflects what I've been saying to Reps. for years:  This is the funhouse you've built.  I'm just enjoying the carnival atmosphere...

      Outta here, I don't deal well with sites that condone racism.

      by fabooj on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 05:44:18 PM PDT

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    •  Hunter Rocks! (none / 1)

      Eloguent with a touch of spitfire.

      Nicely done. You shame me.

    •  only one thing left to add.... (none / 0)

      to this exceptional display of righteous anger....THAT GOES DOUBLE FOR ME!!!!!!

      "THE SURGE IS WORKING" is the 2008 replacement for "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"

      by KnotIookin on Fri Sep 30, 2005 at 03:47:52 AM PDT

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  •  Hunter (4.00 / 8)

    is really nonpareil.
    •  he really is (4.00 / 11)

      so now the only question is, why is hunter saying this to us here?  why isn't this speech on the floor of the senate or the house?  aren't the nation's most gifted orators traditionally the ones guiding the republic?

      instead hunter - and thousands of men and women like him - are being abused governed by the very worst men of our nation.  this has to stop.

      l'audace! l'audace! toujours l'audace!

      by zeke L on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 03:28:09 PM PDT

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      •  Nah (4.00 / 4)

        Electability's always had a much bigger role than oration.  Just look at Frederick Douglass.

        Read James Loewen's "Sundown Towns"!

        by ChicagoDem on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 03:41:30 PM PDT

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        •  frederick douglass (none / 0)

          "electability."  uh huh.  right.

          see how they're keepin' a brother down! ;^)

          l'audace! l'audace! toujours l'audace!

          by zeke L on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 07:53:48 PM PDT

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          •  That's my point (none / 0)

            This country has a long history of marginalizing many of its greatest orators because they don't fit into the right mold.  Douglass was a far greater speaker than pretty much any of his contemporary Congressmen, but, well, he clearly would never have a chance to represent his fellow Americans.  

            Read James Loewen's "Sundown Towns"!

            by ChicagoDem on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 08:06:41 PM PDT

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            •  man, (none / 1)

              now you gon' make me be all serious and stuff.

              i was trying to talk about how they said it was going to be when they started this whole thing.  they said it was going to embody the best traditions of a republic, like rome before sulla, or even a democracy like athens in the time of pericles.  

              now were rome and athens ever all that?  who knows, maybe they just got good press.

              but i'm looking at it from the let america be america again - the country that never was yet perspective.  words i live by in these dark times.

              l'audace! l'audace! toujours l'audace!

              by zeke L on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 08:36:42 PM PDT

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    •  Bien Sur (4.00 / 2)

      I wish there was some way to recommend this posting.  I think that everyone should read it.
    •  fuckin A, dude. (4.00 / 3)

      whoa.  Right fuckin on.
    •  Hunter Should Be in Recent Diaries, Not Front Page (4.00 / 2)

      ...so I can Recommend.  But seriously...

      The only argument I have with his logic is that I don't attribute the politics of personal destruction with the indictment by the prosecutor.  It seems to be standard operating procedure in this matter.  Now if the prosecutor were investigating one thing ("Whitewater") and tried to make political hay in another area (under-desk hummers) then it would be "Welcome to My World".

      Instead I feel clean and decent supporting this, because it is not a witch-hunt.  I am not yet in the muck with these people.  Or FireLake, for that matter.

      •  Spin THIS (3.66 / 3)

        I couldn't disagree more.

        The only time the conservatives start acting like human beings is when they are confronted by their own mean-spirited rhetoric.  They are bullies plain and simple, and if more liberals weren't so "reasonable" the GOP wouldn't have evolved into the tubthumping, hollow-headed, delusional gits that Hunter describes.

        Fight fire with fire.

        Front page material.  All the time.  Every Time.

        Until they realize we're not the pansies they paint us as.  Until they realize that we're taking the high road now, only so we can stop and take a shit on their fat heads, at which point they'll cry foul and maybe start exploiting their influence in the media to call attention to the inhumanity and lunacy of the politics of personal destruction.

        That's how you deal with bullies.  You expose them.  You challenge them.  You fight them.  You don't show them charts and graphs.

        The right are "freedom fighters" as long as they aren't asked to back it up.  As long as they have their finger on the mute button.  As long as they're hiding behind the glow of a CRT in some gated community in Palm Springs.  As long as they know they can make a phone call and have someone destroyed in the media without having to answer for it.

        Well fuck you guys.  You're going to answer for it now.  Rock on Hunter!

        •  Differ... (none / 0)

          ...I'm not saying don't fuck them.  I'm saying in this instance, it is not them getting a taste of their own medicine.  That would be injustice.  This is plain justice.

          I do not believe that the ends justify the means.  No matter how mad you get.  What I'm saying.

          Oh, and I said this before:  Hunter is the best of us.  My favorite FP'r.

    •  This Is Nice, and All... (4.00 / 5)

      ...but tell us what you really think. No need to pull your punches like this, Hunter. ;-)

      This nicely summarizes what's wrong with American political life today. (Source)

      by GreenSooner on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 03:43:31 PM PDT

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    •  that is the most perfect way (4.00 / 3)

      to state how I feel about Hunter in general, and this diary in particular.  Best thing I've read in weeks.

      just really tired of all the bullshit.

      by bitterguy on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 03:53:59 PM PDT

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    •  I thought (4.00 / 2)

      he was really Frank Rich.
    •  Hear Hear (4.00 / 3)

      Give that man a raise!
  •  They have to be persecuted. (4.00 / 6)

     If they were not persecuted, they would finally have to admit that they are evil.
  •  Fear o sphere (4.00 / 21)

    These trolls exist on fear. There supposed power rests on the credibility or illusion of credibility on the President and the Congress and their 51 percent mandate from the country.

    They see everything crashing in around them, yet they wont give up. Its like the Press Secretary for Saddam Hussein telling the people that the bombs around Baghdad in March of 2003 were all make believe and western media lied about the coming of the U.S. troops.

    Well truth is on the march and they are getting scared.

    •  And one of the comments (4.00 / 5)

      to that post over "there" really illustrates their hatefilled unAmerican thoughts...

      Rush Limbaugh has claimed, and continues to claim repeatedly, that there is no dealing with the Left, and that they must be destroyed entirely.

      Posted by: Evan at September 29, 2005 03:26 PM

      I'm not going anywhere. I'm standing up, which is how one speaks in opposition in a civilized world. - Ainsley Hayes

      by jillian on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 03:41:48 PM PDT

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      •  Civil war? (4.00 / 20)

        If those hate-filled cowards are so eager for a civil war, they should go to Iraq and fight.

        "There is nothing more stimulating than a case where everything goes against you." S.H.

        by Carnacki on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 04:20:52 PM PDT

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      •  Yeah, the left sux (none / 1)

        Balanced budgets, worker's rights, prosperity, growth, clean environment, affordable health care, civil rights, good schools for all, equality, international respect, intellect.

        I mean.. who needs that shit?

        Conservatism = greed, hate, fear and ignorance

        by Joe B on Fri Sep 30, 2005 at 12:45:42 AM PDT

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      •  Rush makes me wanna PUKE (none / 0)

        I was fumbling around the radio yesterday and heard his fat-cat, pill-popping, greedy little voice for a split second and I was filled with such utter nausea. (and no, I'm not pregnant) I CANNOT understand for the life of me, how this little insignificant man (if you can call him a man...) could have so many followers "Rush said this, Rush said that this morning" GIVE ME A FUCKIN' BREAK!!!
        Just in case you need a little chuckle to complete your morning after this rant-fest that we so heartily needed, (thank you a million times over, Hunter) check out this comic strip -a little long, but worth it......
        http://wwwe-sheep.com/rusheats
    •  Right On (4.00 / 8)

      Hell yeah.  Fear is their only real currency.  After all, they've managed to practically devalue away the dollar.  Well said.  The truth waits only for one to shine light upon it.  It's like Katrina came and dropped flashlights instead of rain drops, and now everyone is looking around and is frightened at what they see. . . . .

      "Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted." - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

      by Progressive Liberaltarian on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 03:45:36 PM PDT

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    •  The freakazoids are quaking in their boots (4.00 / 3)

      because it's NOT about Delay or Frist or Rove or Libby to them.

      They know that the Bush presidency is over one way or another.  

      The majority of America has already decided it's a FAILURE.  HE's a failure.  The disastrous response to Katrina can never be undone, not if 100 hurricanes strike and Bush spends the rest of his presidency handing out water while FEMA does a yeoman's job.  It will NEVER change what happened a month ago.

      But the wingtards ARE TERRIFIED OF LOSING CONGRESS.

      And that's the crux of their comments right now.  Because they lose Congress - Bush is toast.  Impeachment for ( take your pick ) lying to invade a country that didn't attack or threaten us, sleeping on the job while being repeatedly warned that Bin Laden was going to strike, failing to protect the American people during the aftermath of a disaster.  All three of these things resulted in PEOPLE DYING.  Lots and lots of people DYING.

      Bush is responsible for all three.  He took the oath.  Therefore if the Democrats retake Congress he will be held ACCOUNTABLE for one or all of the three fatal failures of his.

      He's a goner, and the wingtards know it.

      That's what these comments are really about.

  •  Good God, man, (4.00 / 13)

    ...what did you eat for lunch?

    I gotta get me sommadat.

    •  Hunter, Darling, practically perfect, (none / 1)

      just like Mary Poppins, you are.  But may I suggest "Bush-blowing gits"?  The alliteration, don'tcha know.
    •  The Lunch? The Blunt? The Equinox Tonic? (4.00 / 3)

      Whatever it was, give the left (and the Dems) a hit off the source:

      You poor, hollow, blood-painted clowns. Cheering the trials and failures of your country with the same pennants and giant foam hands that you wave at your favorite sports teams. Willing to accept the most outrageous of lies, if they are spoken from your favorite talking heads, and soothe your own notions of America for you, and only for you.
      .
      And as for the audacity of Democrats speaking up during this process... the redfaced, flatulent fury with which you declare Republicans off-limits to that which you so gleefully hurl yourself...
      .
      Welcome to the world of the politics of personal destruction, you tubthumping, chin-jutting, Bush humping gits. Welcome to the nasty and partisan world that Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Hugh Hewitt, Grover Norquist, Newt Gingrich, Tom DeLay, and a legion of insignificant lowest-rung toadies like yourselves nurtured into fruition daily with eager, grubby hands, and now look upon with dull-faced faux horror.

      That's some boilerplate to send around and post over the GOP fainting couch whenever some crushed petal from the flying monkey media cries that one of their criminals is being indicted based on evidence rather than rhetoric.

      (BTW, notice how the nutters increassingly whine that the left shouldn't criticize someone in the GOP crime family unless one of them has actually been SENTENCED for one of their crimes? Gosh, it's like they know something is there ... )
      .

  •  Noonan? (4.00 / 2)

    Is this guy Peggy Noonan's son? He is as unhinged as her.
  •  The spin I'm seeing for DeLay is amazing (4.00 / 6)

    I don't think of the DeLay apoligists as human. When do they ever admit that DeLay is a fucking crook? The fact that they still support DeLay is incredible.

    "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is." - George W Bush

    by jfern on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 03:22:11 PM PDT

    •  My head is spinning... (3.92 / 14)

      Tom DeLay:
      "I didn't know anything about the perfectly legal activity that I didn't engage in while not leading my PAC that I didn't have anything to do with for the purpose of not funding perfectly honorable Republican candidates that I never heard of."

      There, does that clear things up?

    •  These same people (4.00 / 7)

      who still love and defend Tom Delay have had their brains wrung like sopping wet towels for years by hate radio and hate-filled leaders. They now possess the same cult-like attributes that some of the worst societies in history have had. That is why they are so dangerous. That is why they must be fought against.

      "You really can't run a middle-class democracy with a multimillionaire press corps." -Daily Howler

      by assyrian64 on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 03:49:30 PM PDT

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    •  Innocent until proven guilty (4.00 / 4)

      So why can't the Delay apologists just let the trial proceed?  He'll get his day in court, if the Judge finds the charges to be credible enough to warrant going to trial.

      My question, though: if he is found guilty, will they still say it was just partisanship to bring these charges?  I'm guessing they will.  Launching massive investigations and have impeachment proceedings over a blowjob is OK if the target is a Democratic President, but don't you DARE indict a Republican House Leader.  The hypocrisy here is shocking, but no longer(unfortunately) surprising.

      •  If they applied that rule of thumb (4.00 / 3)

        ... about the Dems, by their own accounts the mighty RW smear machine would have shut down years ago.

        Not sure why don't the GOP never shut that thing down -- or ever considered an innovative thing do do once they seized power, which is, FUCKING GOVERN.
        .

    •  It's their only choice (4.00 / 3)

      Bush/ Cheney's hands are too high up Delay's rectum to pretend it doesn't stink for GW and the entire GOP.

      Delay falls and they all fall.

      Do you think any of those gutless cowards that hide behind lies will stay quiet ?
      Nahhh. Those guys don't believe in anything but saving their own arse. They will squal like the pigs they are and bring more of GOP down.

      Stay the Course will be their epitaph

      by lawnorder on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 04:05:15 PM PDT

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      •  Delay (4.00 / 5)

         Is red meat, they are hoping to scrape off the bottom of thier shoe.  Lets hope the trial drags out.  Our illustrios congressman Jeb Bradley done gave old Tom his money back.  lick finger stick in wind

        Democracy is not a spectator sport

        by Sophie Blue on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 04:23:36 PM PDT

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  •  Someone better give Mark a Band-Aid (4.00 / 10)

    I think Hunter might have left a mark with that one. Ouch!

    Many possibilities are open to you - work a little harder.

    by Rainman on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 03:22:21 PM PDT

  •  Whoa (4.00 / 7)

    Hunter, if I ever make you mad, please forgive me. (You know how to write.)
  •  In other words (4.00 / 8)

    Fuck you Mark Noonan. And the whores you rode in on.
  •  Somewhere (none / 1)

    Noonan's picking himself up off the floor, dabbing at the blood coming from his adjusted nose.