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Gerald Celente has for many years been considered a leading trend forcaster by CNN, The Economist, USA Today, CNBC, the Wall Street Journal, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the New York Times, CBS News, the Chicago Tribune, the LA Times and NY Post.

Want to see a ton of praise from these organizations about Celente's prescience?  Click here

Calente is now predicting revolution in America within four years:

Calente recently said:

   "There will be a revolution in this country. It’s not going to come yet, but it’s going to come down the line and we’re going to see a third party and this was the catalyst for it: the takeover of Washington, D. C., in broad daylight by Wall Street in this bloodless coup. And it will happen as conditions continue to worsen.


   What’s going on right now – this Wall Street bailout is really taxation without representation. "

In the video segment, Celente predicts that by 2012 America will be the first "undeveloped" country (meaning Bush has reversed progress, sending the country backwards), experiencing tax revolution, food shortages, riots, marches, and food will take the place of gifts for Christmas.

Calente believes parents shouldn't send their kids to get business degrees or psychology degrees but should send them to free community colleges to learn a trade or skill. He repeats that merely feeding your family will become the most important thing, there will be a major squatters' movement, and the retail industry will die off completely (okay, that's actually pretty conceivable), but local markets will thrive.

The video is framed (by Fox) as a comment on "Obama's Impact" but it's clear from Calente that the impact is all from stuff before Obama's term, and that Obama's hands are tied by what has come before. (I'm sure Fox is disappointed this turned into commentary on GOP policy...)

Is Calente right? Have these years of control under Bush and GOP policies culiminating using shock doctrines (9/11, Katrina, Iraq War, Wall Street cash giveaway) to steal trillions of dollars from middle class taxpayers to rich corporations set the stage for an overthrow of our system?

Will there be critical mass that the Dems' gullibility in fostering the ripoffs mean that many who are current Dems will reject and see them as the problem, as well?

Or is Obama and a Dem majority capable of saving the day and protecting the public from the damage?

This is an interview on Fox, of all places, and after Obama has won the election.

Do you agree with Calente that "retail Christmas" will essentially go away and be replaced by people's need to try to keep food on the table?

Celente presents a picture of the Bush Administration having turned the US into a third world country through corruption and greed, with a spineless or impotent Democratic party playing the enabler.

Gerald Celente's website:

Here is a list of trends the guy predicted in recent times.

Originally posted to Yo yo yo on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 04:54 AM PST.

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Comment Preferences

  •  shame it's on Fox (9+ / 0-)

    I think it'll be more of a revolution than a third party and the commercial Christmas is already dead - just watch what happens this season.

  •  Revolution already happened on November 4th. (4+ / 0-)

    Where was he?

    This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

    by DisNoir36 on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 04:58:10 AM PST

    •  This will begin as a right wing insurgency (0+ / 0-)

      Think Idaho militants and Alaskan wackos and multiply that by a hundred, followed by angry citizen groups exerting pressure to force legislation, and out of that chaos, a new labor movement and reformation of the financial controls.

      theoretically speaking...

      emerging research proven

      by bob zimway on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 06:19:15 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Is that Cheers? (3+ / 0-)

    The bar from TV?

    "War is a Racket" - MajGen Smedley D. Butler, USMC(ret)

    by PvtJarHead on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 05:05:39 AM PST

  •  Are they in a bar? (1+ / 0-)
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    "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran!" McCain doesn't need a presidency. He needs a Playstation.

    by The Gryffin on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 05:06:16 AM PST

  •  If The Bushco Syndicate walks scot-free... (1+ / 0-)
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    I'd be happy to help lead it.

    •  danger Will Robinson! Skepticism alert! (3+ / 0-)
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      TooFolkGR, Cat Whisperer, cacamp

      This is Faux Newz pushing Faux Populism.  This is a Faux in the henhouse, to make the hens start a-cacklin'.  

      Do not fall for it.

      This guy wants to stir up a tax revolt, just in time to trash the Obama Admin before the First Family spends their first New Year's Eve in the White House.

      Look at the agenda: tax revolt.  Not a carefully limited peaceful civil disobedience type tax protest, but a broadband widespread "everyone just stop paying taxes" thing, which will take down the government.

      Our government.

      The government we just sent to Washington with a mandate.  

      Don't fall for this crap.  

      Healthy skepticism, please!

  •  Will it be televised? n/t (4+ / 0-)

    Those who hear not the music-think the dancers mad

    by Eiron on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 05:12:05 AM PST

  •  So what is he saying exactly? (1+ / 0-)
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    That in four years the country will turn to shit and we're going to have a third party basically create a new government here? Yeah okay, I agree that we're probably going to hell in a hand basket but I have a hard time believing THAT is going to happen.

    First person to tell me why Joe Scarborough is such a pissy man who needs baby shampoo gets a cookie (whatever the cafeteria has).

    by ronin122 on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 05:13:29 AM PST

  •  No one in that "bar" seems to be listening to (4+ / 0-)
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    dkistner, dennisl, greenearth, njdaly

    Celente. Why should we? Not that what he is saying is wrong - just why should we listen to anyone who conducts a "doom is coming" interview in the rarefied atmosphere of a busy, upscale bar.

  •  Yup a major social upheaval (1+ / 0-)
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    Urtica dioica gracilis

    is coming.   Migrations, driven by poverty, deprivation and desperation.  How it will play out depends a lot on leadership.

    Those who hear not the music-think the dancers mad

    by Eiron on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 05:14:13 AM PST

  •  Yes. I agree. (2+ / 0-)
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    greenearth, dochp

    Unless something miraculous occurs in the next 18 months. Y'all can send me whatever spare tin foil you have for my super-protective beanie.

    Help save salmon: your action needed by 11/17/08.

    by Urtica dioica gracilis on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 05:18:45 AM PST

  •  Of tax riots and Hobbit presents... (5+ / 0-)

    I think Calente's whole "tax riot" and cut spending meme is very predictably Republican, but I think this guy has a point. Our former ways of doing things are not sustainable. I, for one, would love to see our production shift to something that does more for our country's safety and security than making more garbage, increasing the size of our landfills, and polluting our environment.

    I know in our family, the emphasis already is on food...and donating our older stuff to Goodwill or the Salvation Army in December for a tax writeoff, meaning the thrift stores are going to be a GREAT place to go for Christmas gifts. (Shopping thrift stores or buying things used instead of new stuff is a great way to help the environment, too. I think of it as recycling and reusing stuff.)

    Our family has a great tradition of "Hobbit presents": Circulating gifts, re-giving them each year. It's delightful to receive a gift that somebody in years past gave to someone else, and everybody sits around trying to remember that former time and who gave what to whom. Cheap disposable goods don't work very well for this because they fall apart. But timeless, quality items that are made with skill and care make wonderful Hobbit presents, whether handmade in the family or bought in a shop or thrift store. Adopting this kind of giving could shift us away from our wasteful throwaway ways and restore pride in craftsmanship.

    Another thing it could do is get us all used to the idea of a different kind of currency: bartering valuable items and skills with each other, locally, so we can better weather the collapse of the dollar.

    I know times are going to get very hard, but I'm looking at the up side of it. A correction will be painful, but it may well lead to a better quality of life. At the very least, it will get us talking to the oldest among us and learning from them the skills they depended on to weather hard times. We need to pick their brains on how to survive before they're gone and that wisdom is lost.

  •  Everyone Wonders (1+ / 0-)
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    why, after all of their trouble, are Bush and Cheney leaving office with only a shrug and a smirk.  Here's why. They have finally facilitated the bloodless coup by bankers. They have done the work they came to do, like the leaches they are.  The mutant mafia...oh, I could go on and on.

    My prayer is that the Obama administration will be able to mitigate the damage, somewhat.

    "Our long national nightmare is over. The great undoing has begun." SusanG

    by SherriG on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 05:25:03 AM PST

  •  Oh My God! (7+ / 0-)

    Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
    Dr. Egon Spengler: Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
    Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave!
    Dr. Peter Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria

    CHRISTIAN, n. One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor. A. Bierce

    by irate on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 05:29:04 AM PST

  •  I agree, been saying it for years (11+ / 0-)

    to anyone who would listen. Everyone thought I was crazy.

    I'm a librarian, we are canaries in your coal mine. Library usage is a leading indicator of economic problems. So is your local mechanic, the thrift store, the dollar store.

    One business I know here, aside from my mechanic and myself, is a store that sells luxury foods at blowout prices, bought in lots from failed gourmet food stores in upscale markets. Rock bottom prices and great stuff. Regular stores are tombs now, though.

    FWIW, I know all about growing food fast, max yields, foraging, edible weeds, etc etc.

    My approach is that hoarding and going the survivalist route is doomed, we have to pitch in together and help each other with skills, bartering, charity.  I long ago started growing lots of extra food to give away, as a habit. And I see I am far from the only one doing this.

    In a nutshell: the only way we will survive is if we become better people. Virtue is our ticket out.

    Electing Obama was a good symbolic start, an apology to the world for previous shitty behaviour. But soon we need to do a lot more than symbolic gestures.

    Yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but, yeah but

    by krnewman on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 06:01:08 AM PST

  •  Sounds like silly apocalyptic (1+ / 0-)
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    2012 is the end of the world nonsense.

    Speak softly and carry a big can of tuna.

    by Cat Whisperer on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 06:03:41 AM PST

    •  It's not the end of the world (1+ / 0-)
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      Yo yo yo

      but it is the end of much of the world as you know it.

      It will be rough, but most of us can end up better off than we ever were.

      The key is to focus on the positives and work with that.

      Yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but, yeah but

      by krnewman on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 06:08:59 AM PST

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    •  It's not silly at all (2+ / 0-)
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      Cat Whisperer, njdaly

      Heck, Nostradamus and the X-Files are all over this, too . . .

    •  I agree (3+ / 0-)
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      G2geek, dotdot, krnewman

      it does sound like that, and in fact that's what they said when this guy predicted the Iraq war and the current financial meltdown, that he was being apocalyptic, Dr Doom, end of Wall Street as we know it nonsense. And look how wrong he turned out to be. He also said this recession/depression is going to be much more serious than the Great Depression because most of our grandparents didn't own houses then, didn't have credit cards, didn't have second mortgages.

      What a bunch of nonsense this guy spouts, eh?

      His basic pitch isn't much different from a Ron Paul type. He says at some point you're going to wake up and say, WTF, I never agreed to all this effin' money that you're making me pay in my taxes for wars and bailouts, so FU, I'm not going along with this, I'm not going to pay my taxes until you change this system. And he says enough people are going to come from there that it will become a "revolution."

      He talks about 3 different realities: the political reality, the media reality, and the real reality that people live in. His point is the real reality is going to wake up and revolt against the very expensive fairy tales that have been peddled, simply because they won't be able to afford to both pay for them and live, that it's not dem or GOP, it's simple survival when enough people are in jeopardy of losing their homes, etc. That's the critical mass he predicts. But all sounds like silly apocalyptic stuff, no?

      •  bingo! skepticism is good, this guy is... (2+ / 0-)
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        njdaly, RubyGal

        a drama-queenie doomster with a rightie twist.

        And Fox is using him to stir up shit going forward toward Obama taking office.

        As for this tax revolt thing, that's Faux Populism on Faux News.  

        Yeah he wants to stir up a big tax revolt: the better to cripple the new Administration before Obama's even spent a single New Year's Eve at the White House.  

        I wonder when he predicts the race war will break out, eh...?  (snark!)


        What's weird is, I'm a doomer myself (eco-doomer), but my prescriptions have been for the most part approved-of around here, 88 Recs for one last night for example... it's annoying as hell when the righties get their doomers on the TV.  

        •  The environment is the one factor that the (0+ / 0-)

          corporate big wigs can't control.  They may have taken control of the economy and the country and that the bailout is taxation without representation but what was it worth in the end with an environment that does not sustain life..?

  •  What he's really saying is... (3+ / 0-)
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    tbetz, njdaly, BetMyCitizenship

    "Democrats can't fix it."

    Fix what, you might ask?

    "That's not important. I'm talking about the future."

  •  yo everyone, skeptic alert... (3+ / 0-)
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    cacamp, njdaly, mrConcern

    The last link in the diary goes to a website called

    Take a look at what else is on that website.

    The author of that site is also into woowoo stuff bigtime: wrote a book on crop circles for example, that doesn't appear to be the kind of thing that could pass here.

    There's a long list of UFO stuff that also doesn't appear to be the kind of rational treatment someone here does on Saturday nights, but looks like another woowoo job.

    The "science" section seems reasonable enough, but since all the articles are behind a paywall... oops, spoke too soon: "Levitation possible by reversing Casimir force".... uh, I knew one of the guys behind the Zero Point theory (legitimate scientist, worked for Lockheed) and he was only looking for a more elegant explanation of inertial mass, not more woowoo stuff...

    And the author also has an extensive page dedicated to major self-promotion, including photographs of her at various exotic places around the world....

    Yeah, I'd say take it with a grain of salt, or a teaspoon full.  

  •  Celente thinks we're heading for the Amero. (2+ / 0-)
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    tbetz, njdaly

    Listen to the interview here (YouTube).

    Celente, IMO, has lost his marbles.

  •  BULL SHIITTT, read skeptic alert above (1+ / 0-)
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  •  psst... (2+ / 0-)
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    greenearth, njdaly

    the world has already ended...

    Hey, how 'bout we impeach the people who are supposed to do the impeaching and get some other impeachers who are more impeachy?

    by ronny mermaid on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 06:29:42 AM PST

  •  American Zocalo...small markets..a town square (0+ / 0-)

    IT is too expensive being American.  We are going to have to look to other models for a way out of this mess because clearly, being American is way too expensive.  People can pool resources, live communally which is the way mankind has done it for centuries.  

    The corporate clowns have been in a race to the bottom..they have hated and despised labor.  Well, let them now live in a country that is completely fallen apart..they think they are the nomenclatura but they will be just another person in a bread line.

    American Zocalo would be a way to divy up the big box stores and divide them into small market stalls where people can sell and trade the goods they have made or they have to offer.

  •  Really??? (1+ / 0-)
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    America will be the first undeveloped country, experiencing revolution

  •  proof that he's wrong (0+ / 0-)

    You saw this on TV, and, as everybody knows, the revolution will not be televised.

  •  I Liked This Guy Better (0+ / 0-)

    When he was a Time Traveler from 2036.

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