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"They were not gay...".  (I half expected to read the Seinfeld bit, "not that there's anything wrong with it".)

Private security guards at the U.S. Embassy in Kabul were pressured to participate in naked pool parties and perform sex acts to gain promotions or assignment to preferable shifts, according to one of 12 guards who have gone public with their complaints.

"It was mostly the young guys fresh from the military who were told they had to participate," said the guard, who talked on a phone hook-up arranged by the Project on Government Oversight, which first revealed photographs of the parties.

"They were not gay but they knew what it took to get promoted," said the guard, spoke on condition that ABC News not publish his name.

"They were not gay...".  Yea, we know that they weren't gay.  These jerks were acting like they've never seen a penis before.  They were acting like 10 year old children out on their first sleep over without adult supervision.  These jerks were acting like no self respecting homosexual that I have ever known.  

So, exactly why is the military against homosexuals serving our country?  Do they think this is the type of behavior that will be taking place in the barracks and on submarines?   I have one question for the military.  Can you please show us an example of any group of gay or lesbian service members acting in this manner?  

So, while our heterosexual contractors are out shaking their dicks in each other's faces, and drinking booze off of the their co-workers asses, the proud service member who happens to be gay or lesbian must serve under the cloak of secrecy, or be discharged if his or her sexual preference is found out.  

Why doesn't the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy apply to contractors too?  And, if it does, exactly what part of "don't ask, don't tell" did this outrageously inappropriate "partying" not fall under?  Oh, I get it.  These actions don't qualify as being homosexual because "they were not gay".  These were just good healthy boys who liked playing with each other's penises.  What is wrong with that?  Actually nothing is wrong with that.  So why can't gays and lesbians serve in the military?

In any event, the goofs were exposed (in more ways than one) and not only did their dereliction of duty put our country at risk, but they have again proven why contracting wars out to the lowest bidder is not the wisest of policies.  If we continue to contract these important assignments out, can we at least implement a "don't ask, don't tell" policy for jerks?

Originally posted to Jack Dublin on Thu Sep 03, 2009 at 09:55 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (19+ / 0-)

    "You cannot have a strong middle class without a strong labor movement." President Barack Obama

    by Jack Dublin on Thu Sep 03, 2009 at 09:55:38 AM PDT

  •  Jack, Jack, Jack... (9+ / 0-) know that homoerotic humiliation is a privilege of the oligarchs and their subordinates.

    Although I'm not really sure that these constitute "sexual acts," just sexualized unprofessionalism.  

    What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun.

    by Alec82 on Thu Sep 03, 2009 at 10:01:31 AM PDT

  •  They were not gay? (2+ / 0-)
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    fritzrth, Shirl In Idaho

    Jesus, what kind of crazed frat boy initiation antics were these people up to over there?

    It must be hard for you, being perpetually offended by things with which you simply disagree.

    by droogie6655321 on Thu Sep 03, 2009 at 10:03:38 AM PDT

  •  They're just good red blooded American boys... (5+ / 0-)

    who like playing with each other's penises.  What's wrong with that?

    "You cannot have a strong middle class without a strong labor movement." President Barack Obama

    by Jack Dublin on Thu Sep 03, 2009 at 10:07:53 AM PDT

  •  They aren't gay (5+ / 0-)

    but someone, somewhere was getting off on all this.

    It reminds me of the 'sisterhood' in Shawshank Redemption. They aren't gay, because you have to be human to be gay. They are just interested in dominating others, and sexually is one way to show your domination of others.

    If they could get human to roll over on their backs, expose their throats, and wet themselves, they'd do that, too.

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference.

    by blue aardvark on Thu Sep 03, 2009 at 10:09:27 AM PDT

  •  Lord of the Flies (2+ / 0-)
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    fritzrth, Alec82

    the greatest threat to america is its sense of exceptionalism.

    by SeanF on Thu Sep 03, 2009 at 10:11:11 AM PDT

  •  Armor Group's parent company is called Wackenhut (5+ / 0-)

    Well, you can say that again.

    It's often said that life is strange. But compared to what? --Steve Forbert

    by darthstar on Thu Sep 03, 2009 at 10:16:07 AM PDT

  •  "DADT" Dont want to know the details (1+ / 0-)
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    Do we have to actually demand adult supervision?  Aren't we entitled to expect professionalism without having chaperones?  There is no excuse for this behavior.  

    Their antics are disgraceful and unfairly taint the 99.99% of the other military personnel who wouldn't even conceive of acting in such a foolish manner.

    Punishment of these individuals will not be demoralizing, allowing them to escape consequences will.

    "I'd HR you for misspelling Bundt cake... but I'm not sure you'd see the humor in it." -wiscmass

    by mydailydrunk on Thu Sep 03, 2009 at 10:24:55 AM PDT

  •  Just a minor point.... (0+ / 0-)

    ...from the diary. Looking at the amount of money being thrown at these security contractors, I think the "lowest bidders" mention may be incorrect. It's all about political connections and "Christian" credentials. Groups of men together have been doing these "ritual" acts for centuries. It's not a big deal. From fraternity hazing to first-time seamen crossing the equator (before women sailors) to your average hunting trip, straight guys have exercised their homosexual (not "gay" which is a political self-identification) muscle whenever the ladies aren't present. It's pretty normal. There is an element of subjugation involved but it's not comparable to rape. Any man can refuse to participate at any time, they just don't get to be a member of the "club" if they do so, and compromising one's "manhood" is a small price to pay for acceptance into the "ubermale" realm.    

    •  "It's not a big deal." Than why are gays... (0+ / 0-)

      thrown out of the military?

      "You cannot have a strong middle class without a strong labor movement." President Barack Obama

      by Jack Dublin on Thu Sep 03, 2009 at 11:19:54 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Because they self-identify as "gay". (1+ / 0-)
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        Jack Dublin

        The straight world, from the churches to Hollywood to the military, is just fine with homosexual activity as long as it's kept as a secret. They're all perfectly fine with the "unspeakable" behaviors but what they don't like is anyone taking pride in those activities. The military likes their homo on the down-low. Accepting and living openly as a "gay person" is a political statement which shatters their "fun" in doing exactly these types of man-on-man hi-jinx. If the veneer of humiliation is removed from these antics they'd all have to admit that they enjoy the cocksucking and butt-fucking part of it and they just can't go down that road. Everybody enjoys it until you call it what it is. It's like many Muslim communities. The men and boys all "do" each other right up until they get married (and even after in some cases) but if a guy accepts that's what he likes and decides to be "gay" he is arrested, shunned, murdered, what have you. It's a popular cultural hypocrisy.    

        •  an "add-on" (0+ / 0-)

          The macho men mistakenly consider affirming a gay identity as being the same as going over to the "girls" team. And these guys really don't like women except as sex partners, maids and trophies. They become infuriated when any male deserts the sexual boundaries and goes to play for the "other side". It's erroneous of course but that's how they see it.    

  •  Any sailor (0+ / 0-)

    who has crossed the Equator knows exactly what this is about.

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