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The Washington Post reports:
The jury in the John Edwards campaign corruption trial has reached a verdict on one of six counts, but is apparently deadlocked on the others.

The judge told the jury Thursday that she understood that the panel had reached a verdict on all counts, and the jury foreman said no.

Prosecutors argued that the jury should keep deliberating and the defense asked for the verdict on the one count and a mistrial on the others.

The jury said it had reached a verdict on a single count of taking illegal campaign contributions. Those came in the form of payments from Rachel "Bunny" Mellon. That verdict was not announced.

The U.S. District Court judge in the case, Catherine C. Eagles, has sent the jury back for more deliberation.

1:58 PM PT: One count not guilty; mistrial on the other five counts.

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  •  Waste of taxpayer's money (25+ / 0-)

    N/T

    - If you don't like gay marriage, blame straight people. They're the ones who keep having gay babies.

    by r2did2 on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:33:44 PM PDT

  •  Meanwhile (35+ / 0-)

    No prosecutions of Bushco. No prosecutions of any banksters.

    "I wish I could tell you, in the midst of all of this, that President Obama was waging the kind of fight against these draconian Republican proposals that the American people would like to see. He is not." -- Senator Bernie Sanders

    by Sagebrush Bob on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:34:27 PM PDT

    •  Well, I'm all for indictin' me some bankers, (5+ / 0-)

      but let's not let this douchebag off the hook. If his infractions were discovered after a successful run for President, rather than after an unsuccessful one, he would have torpedoed Dems' electoral prospects for decades.

      Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of non-thought. -- Milan Kundera

      by Dale on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:50:34 PM PDT

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      •  I'm just saying (7+ / 0-)

        where is the sense of priorities? I'd say that prosecuting war criminals and people who helped tank the economy should be more of a priority than John Edwards. As it stands, war criminals and banksters aren't even on the list of priorities.

        "I wish I could tell you, in the midst of all of this, that President Obama was waging the kind of fight against these draconian Republican proposals that the American people would like to see. He is not." -- Senator Bernie Sanders

        by Sagebrush Bob on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:59:58 PM PDT

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        •  Well, the bigger the crime, (1+ / 0-)
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          the less likely that the perpetrator will be held accountable for it.

          Shoplifting a candy bar? Throw the book at 'im!

          Embezzling $300,000? Well, we just got a phone call from the local Senator, and turns out, Mr. Perp is a decent, God-fearing man who would never do nothing to nobody. I, for one, totally believe him.

          Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of non-thought. -- Milan Kundera

          by Dale on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:28:06 PM PDT

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    •  Yeah, it sucks that we have a scumwad like (4+ / 0-)

      this on "our" side

      But, OTOH, if he were a republican, no one would give a flying fuck about minutia like this . .. .

  •  Let's remember that this case (15+ / 0-)

    has nothing to do with the fact Edwards cheated on his wife, but with illegal use of campaign funds to hide the affair. If Newt Gingrich had spent his campaign funds on hookers and blow, or Romney spent his on a new polo pony, it would be the same thing.

    As one who donated a few dollars to Edwards, I'm happy to see him facing justice if indeed there was malfeasance.

    Mitt Romney: the Etch-A-Sketch candidate in the era of YouTube

    by Cali Scribe on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:34:46 PM PDT

    •  If (12+ / 0-)

      Newt Gingrich had spent his campaign funds on hookers and blow, or Romney spent his on a new polo pony, the story might rage through the tabloid press, but it would not result in prosecution. That's the world we live in now. In large part our judiciary is subservient to the political right wing.

      The perfect is NOT the enemy of the good. The perfect is the course you advocate in order to ARRIVE at the good. When you BEGIN the journey on the path of merely "good," inevitably you wind up at meh.

      by WisePiper on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:41:46 PM PDT

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    •  Yes But I Don't Think JE is Accused of Spending It (3+ / 0-)
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      on either hookers or blow, but rather on hiding the affair.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:48:00 PM PDT

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    •  He didn't use campaign funds... (7+ / 0-)

      from what I understand.  What I read is that he went to a supporter and said "I'm in a jam, can you help me out?" and they did...even after the campaign was over.  Although I thought Edwards was loaded, can't see why he couldn't pay her off himself.

    •  Except they weren't campaign funds in any (9+ / 0-)

      sense.   The instructions seem to be that anything intended to help Edwards in seeking office is a campaign donation, which is bizarre considering the completely legal issue ads and superpac activity.  

      Romney is campaigning to be President SuperBain; his cure is to cut wages, end pensions, let companies go bankrupt, and let the assets of production go dark or be sold to China. He really thinks thats the best of all possible Americas.

      by Inland on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:53:02 PM PDT

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    •  Not really the situation at all (2+ / 0-)
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      This was not a misue of campaign funds -- I have not seen any allegations that funds intended for the campaign were used to hide the mistress.   It is quite unlike a candidate using contributions for personal profit.

      The people paying the money knew that it was to hide the mistress, the question is whether the act of hiding the mistress was a campaign contribution.   It is trickey.   I would say it is more like a bribery case, or a combination of bribery and extortion.    Obviously the people who hid the mistress would have had a great influence on Edwards, in the unlikely event that he had made it through the campaign without her being discovered.   (In fact, the almost %100 probability of discovery might be a good argument for it NOT being a campaign contribution, since his campaign was essentially over as soon as he did it.)

  •  Yawn. How can a nonstory (no announced verdicts) (9+ / 0-)

    be a continuing "story" on cable news. Oh wait, i forgot. It's a "breaking, developing" story.

    How many times will they get talkers on saying "We don't know."

  •  Likely not guilty on Count 3 (12+ / 0-)

    NBC reports the unanimous verdict was on Count 3, contribs from Bunny Mellon in 2008.  However, Edwards campaign was suspended on January 30, 2008.  Something was made of this in the trial.  Seems to me that the jury has reached a compromise on this one, with those who want to hang Edwards admitting you can't contribute to a campaign that is over.  

    Obviously this is what Edwards' defense team thinks--they asked for the verdict to be read.  The prosecutors didn't.  Edwards asked for mistrial on the other five counts, prosecutors want continued deliberation.  

    Odds are that Edwards will walk

    What rough beast, its hour come round at last/Slouches toward Bethlehem waiting to be born?

    by cova1 on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:36:30 PM PDT

    •  There Was One Count Where the Donation Came (5+ / 0-)
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      with a note authorizing money to be used for personal expenses, said analysts on MSNBC, so it may not have been an actual campaign donation at all. That may be the case they reached the verdict on.

      Analysts also said the jury probably figured it had finished its work and was likely pissed to have to go back and hash everything else out longer.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:49:46 PM PDT

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    •  i'm sorry with that case (1+ / 0-)
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      it's probably the women on the jury who just want to hang him no matter what with reckless disregard to the facts. There was NO way edwards was going to get a fair trial within the us period. we'd have to try him with a european jury or something to get past it.

      http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals! up yours!

      by daeros on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:50:51 PM PDT

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      •  WTF? (5+ / 0-)
        it's probably the women on the jury who just want to hang him no matter what with reckless disregard to the facts.
        Are you serious or is this some sort of attempt at snark?

        ....no longer in SF.... -9.00, -7.38

        by TFinSF on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:01:06 PM PDT

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        •  i misspoke. (0+ / 0-)

          this should of been stated as such

          "I have a  hard time believing there isn't a climate AGAINST edwards anywhere in this country... The jury on this particular case seems to emphasize that screening for bias was not possible. You take one look at what they said about the leering female jury members and one pretty much suspects they're holding out for a conviction. I'm Not MAD at women in particular. I just suspect those jurors of bias."

          This all came out completely thoughtlessly because of how much this whole case offends me. I'm really sorry.

          http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals! up yours!

          by daeros on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:33:05 PM PDT

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          •  Um, OK (0+ / 0-)

            Still seems a bit sexist that you are lumping all the women on the jury together as biased.  

            ....no longer in SF.... -9.00, -7.38

            by TFinSF on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:46:00 PM PDT

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            •  Well ok. (0+ / 0-)

              I feel that if it was a different jury it would be the men. It's the luck of the draw. some of us have way too much integrity and honestly and we'd let it cloud our judgement.

              Edwards is a sleasebag, mind you. for what he did to his wife. but... Does he deserve to be crucified for it? is he even guilty? those questions... I mean my experience with juries just watching television shows. I've seen it break a lot of different ways and I think a lot of people lack objectivety. It's not women in particular. Men do too. If it were just women the world would not be so messed up because there would be at least half of the people getting it right. But have you ever watched a television show for instance and seen someone who had reasonable doubt established only for them to be completely convicted? I've watched so many documentaries to that affect-all because the jury didn't like the accused. Juries can do either way, it's sad but true.

              http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals! up yours!

              by daeros on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:50:50 PM PDT

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            •  the reason for that btw (0+ / 0-)

              is because when i first heard about the case andhow it was going, what I heard was the women seemed like they wanted to hang him- That's all i read on it.

              If a male juror had responded that way i would of been upset at him too.

              http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals! up yours!

              by daeros on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:55:15 PM PDT

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      •  Were you raised by wolves?? (0+ / 0-)

        If not, why would you be this rude and obnoxious?

        women on the jury who just want to hang him no matter what with reckless disregard to the facts
        YOUR reckless attack on women is inexcusable!

        "Let each unique song be sung and the spell of differentiation be broken" - Winter Rabbit

        by cotterperson on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:26:42 PM PDT

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      •  how do i retract my comment? (0+ / 0-)

        i'd rather just delete it than defend it. it was a upset comment. everytime this comes up.

        I have a sibbling that is VERY upset abotu this whole thing and it just...grinds my gears. I didn't mean to attack ALL women, just the women that seemed to be leering at him on the jury.

        I am a pretty radfem. this comment clearly got misconstrued and that is my fault.

        http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals! up yours!

        by daeros on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:29:42 PM PDT

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      •  wow...do you really believe women are not able (0+ / 0-)

        to give him a fair trial???  Wow!

        •  no I DO but (0+ / 0-)

          that particular jury? it seemed to be pretty intense.

          If it had gone another way and gone elsewhere it would of been men that wanted to hang his ass for insulting our honor.

          How does one screen for biases against someone that is so universally loathed?

          http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals! up yours!

          by daeros on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:38:07 PM PDT

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    •  Bingo, I nailed it. (2+ / 0-)
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      One not guilty, rest mistrial.

      What rough beast, its hour come round at last/Slouches toward Bethlehem waiting to be born?

      by cova1 on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:39:23 PM PDT

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      •  You sure did! n.t. (0+ / 0-)

        I vote Democratic because I am a woman with self-respect , who rejects bigotry of all kinds, subscribes to science, believes in universal health care, embraces unions, and endorses smart internationalist foreign policy.

        by Delilah on Thu May 31, 2012 at 02:15:01 PM PDT

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  •  What a schmuck n/t (3+ / 0-)
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    "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

    by Andrew C White on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:39:35 PM PDT

  •  You know (18+ / 0-)

    I was NEVER on the John Edwards bandwagon (even when he was a favorite here).  I always thought he gave off a sleazy vibe, and thought he did not cross the gap between living a lavish lifestyle and being a champion of the poor. And it goes without saying that  I also think he's one hell of an asshole.  I will likely never get over what he did to Elizabeth Edwards who seemed like a decent human being.  

    But that's not what this case is about...  This seems like a particularly weak legal case against him, and when I see all the horrific spending thanks to the immoral  but "legal" ruling of Citizens United, it is hard for me to get excised about sending John Edwards to jail.  

    I vote Democratic because I am a woman with self-respect , who rejects bigotry of all kinds, subscribes to science, believes in universal health care, embraces unions, and endorses smart internationalist foreign policy.

    by Delilah on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:42:16 PM PDT

    •  My thoughts exactly: (7+ / 0-)
      But that's not what this case is about...  This seems like a particularly weak legal case against him, and when I see all the horrific spending thanks to the immoral  but "legal" ruling of Citizens United, it is hard for me to get excised about sending John Edwards to jail.  
      Is he a sleazy asshole for paying off a mistress with campaign funds? Absolutely. Is this worse than Fox News' recent four minute anti-Obama commercial? No. Is it worse than Sarah Palin legally paying her family members campaign funds? No.

      "A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer

      by CFAmick on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:50:13 PM PDT

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    •  You May Be Watching History, the Last Prosecution (8+ / 0-)

      of campaign spending irregularities, given the capture of government by global capital under CU.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:51:21 PM PDT

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    •  04 Debate (1+ / 0-)
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      My bad vibe from him goes back to the '04 VP debate.  I hated the way he called out Cheney over his gay daughter.  I don't know if it was the way he said it or what but - as a big ol dyke - my first reaction was 'that sucked'.  I talked to my parents and they had the same reaction.  His whole performance that night left me with a bad feeling about him.

      Meet me in Cognito, baby

      by out grrl on Thu May 31, 2012 at 02:43:48 PM PDT

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      •  My ultimate bad vibe moment (0+ / 0-)

        came at the 2004 DNC when the camera caught both JE and EE on camera in the balcony and EE was chatting with her mother in law, and JE realized the camera was on them, elbowed EE and you could see him reprimanding her and lip read the words "pay attention" to his wife. I thought he was the intersection of  total jerk and  telegenic phony in that moment.  But I also thought his Meet the Press interview showed he was an empty suit without serious thinking on serious policy issues.  He was never my guy but I still don't think he should go to jail.  This case was a total joke given  the fact that there are so many war criminals from the Bush years and bankers from Wall St running free, while the Koch bros can bankroll sleazy backroom campaigns with no accountability whatsoever thanks to Citizens United.  

        I vote Democratic because I am a woman with self-respect , who rejects bigotry of all kinds, subscribes to science, believes in universal health care, embraces unions, and endorses smart internationalist foreign policy.

        by Delilah on Thu May 31, 2012 at 02:53:36 PM PDT

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        •  Agree (2+ / 0-)
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          Oh, I agree that the case was total BS.  Any conviction would surely be overturned on appeal.  Waste of time.  Waste of newsprint. Waste of taxpayer dollars.  I wish Bunny Mellon would sue the Youngs, though.  It would be a hard case to prove but they basically took advantage of a 90 year old woman.

          Meet me in Cognito, baby

          by out grrl on Thu May 31, 2012 at 03:08:10 PM PDT

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  •  on the brights side, MSNBC has Chrystal Ball on (4+ / 0-)
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    now. So at least visuals are good. :)

    Hmm, Crystal Ball vs. Stephanie Miller. Yes, I know she's gay but it's just a talent and brains contest.

    •  There are about (2+ / 0-)
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      40 things wrong with your comment besides the spelling issue.  good gawd, get me out of 1950.

      Vi er alle norske " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

      by gchaucer2 on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:47:08 PM PDT

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      •  Oh, lighten up. (1+ / 0-)
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      •  Love you gchaucer2 (2+ / 0-)
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        I really appreciate your posts.  But on this one, I have to say, that post doesn't bother me at all and I am a  straight  woman.  Maybe because I sympathize... I notice when male political commentators are hot AND intelligent.

        I vote Democratic because I am a woman with self-respect , who rejects bigotry of all kinds, subscribes to science, believes in universal health care, embraces unions, and endorses smart internationalist foreign policy.

        by Delilah on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:01:23 PM PDT

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        •  I don't see the point (1+ / 0-)
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          of mentioning someone is gay (lesbian, actually).  And what is the brains v. talent thing?  Sorry -- I find that offensive and I'm straight.  I'm really sick of anyone here needing to point out someone is gay (lesbian, actually) in relation to a non-LGBT context.

          Vi er alle norske " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

          by gchaucer2 on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:05:31 PM PDT

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          •  Uhm (0+ / 0-)

            I only added I was straight in the context of noticing if a commentator was attractive.  I actually left it out when I first typed it and added it for context related to me alone  and as an afterthought.  I could just as easily have left it out.  I didn't realize it would turn into an issue.  I am terribly sorry if I offended you in any way.  One would think that the caveat I issued about loving your posts would suggest a sense of having more in common than not.  None of this has anything to do with John Edwards so I am done. Peace out.

            I vote Democratic because I am a woman with self-respect , who rejects bigotry of all kinds, subscribes to science, believes in universal health care, embraces unions, and endorses smart internationalist foreign policy.

            by Delilah on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:14:18 PM PDT

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          •  Can someone explain to me (0+ / 0-)

            why "lesbian" is a separate category from "gay"?

            The way to combat noxious ideas is with other ideas. The way to combat falsehoods is with truth. - William O. Douglas

            by PSzymeczek on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:20:49 PM PDT

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    •  Tell Me She Didn't Start Out as Exotic Dancer (1+ / 0-)
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      with that name.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:52:11 PM PDT

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  •  this non-story (21+ / 0-)

    about an apparently weak legal case is especially telling when one recognizes that a war criminal like gwb is getting his portrait hung in the wh today.

    there's no such thing as fair and balanced in america when it comes to holding republicans accountable.

  •  I wonder what mandyinseattle iz thinkin (0+ / 0-)

    sad when that's my first thought about this, isn't it

    nothing yet :-)
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    by Clytemnestra on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:49:03 PM PDT

  •  Alter on MSNBC "There WAS No Violation of Campaign (17+ / 0-)

    laws."

    Also those bringing charges "had worked for years as bitter political opponents of Edwards."

    The MSNBC commentators are pretty adamant that this should never have been prosecuted.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Thu May 31, 2012 at 12:57:19 PM PDT

    •  Then at least IRS charges of tax fraud (0+ / 0-)

      should be brought.

      If he did not take that money for political gains, then it was for personal gain and he should be prosecuted for not reporting almost a million dollars in income.

      •  Tell it to that (4+ / 0-)

        Andrew Young guy. Looks like he ended up with most of it.

      •  But he didn't take the money for personal gain (0+ / 0-)

        In fact, he never took the money at all.   I'm not saying that what he did was moral, or even that it was legal but you have to figure out what to charge him with.   We don't have enough prisons just to jail people for being scumbuckets.

        If we take the prosecution's version of the facts as true then all he did was ask somebody to give money to some acquaintences.   Those people did so knowing full well what the money was for.   The issue is whether they were making an illegal campaign contribution by so doing.   Now it seems to me like it ought to be illegal to do such things, but in this era of Citizens United I don't think that the law is there.   It would be violating Bunny Mellon's "free speech" rights according to this court.

        (Yes, I know that "Citizens United" was decided after '08 but that doesn't matter if you think about it.)

  •  I don't know why this story has fascinated me.. (7+ / 0-)

    I was a big Edwards supporter in 2007-08. I really liked what he had to say about poverty issues. I'm never surprised to hear when a politician has done something sleezy, like have an affair while his wife is ill. But it never helps anyone's career. I saw him at the break out session at D Kos 2007 in Chicago. Heck, if I had known he was looking for some action..... :-)

    But I don't know how this could ever be anything but a three ring circus because no one seems to be able to separate the ethical (non-illegal) issues from the straight legal issues. He's already done politically, which is a little sad. He could have done some good work. Instead he is the ultimate joke about sleezy lawyers and politicians.

    If this jury comes back with a not guilty verdict people are going to be pissed, like they were with the Casey Anthony trial. (I know, apples & oranges). But if the jury can't look at the cold hard facts in front of them and find it damning, then they can't say he's guilty. The Anthony jury got crucified and they simply did the job with the tools they were given. These folks might get the same treatment. Jury work isn't an easy gig.

    "Even in the wizarding world, hearing voices isn't good."

    by SnoKat on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:04:29 PM PDT

    •  ppls deserve to be pissed (2+ / 0-)
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      fuck the norm, fuck the majority, and fuck the public. they're all dead wrong on this.

      http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals! up yours!

      by daeros on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:07:39 PM PDT

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      •  god that felt good. (3+ / 0-)
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        I had to get it off my chest.

        http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals! up yours!

        by daeros on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:08:10 PM PDT

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  •  Mistrial or acquittal (7+ / 0-)

    Then the prosecutors get to decide whether to retry Clemens for fibbing about 'roiding up...oh. Wait. What?

    Welcome to the headquarters of pulling facts out of my hindquarters

    by Mike E on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:06:42 PM PDT

  •  Two Americas.. (3+ / 0-)
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    "One America where I can pretend to be a populist leader who cares for the American people and cares deeply for his wife dying of Cancer.."

    "The other America - one where I can get my ultra-rich friends to pony up hundreds of thousands of dollars to hide my mistress and my daughter from the public while I try, in vain, to keep my presidential hopes alive.  Oh.. and did I mention I'm a scumbag?"

  •  look i'm not going to accsuse anyone of anything (1+ / 0-)
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    PSzymeczek

    like mandyinseatle did but I remember jon edwards for what he actually did and no one else seems to want to.

    http://www.monkeytime.org/...

    this man, while e was a sleazebag towards his woman and should be shamed for it still would of made an incredible politican.

    I'm very upset that he's being remembered as a viseral bag of lies when the charges against him are SO trumped up. the key issue that seems to get people upset over him vs What Gingrich did is that he used campaign fiannces to cover it up-well it looks like they weren't even campaign fiances but a personal gift from a constituent.

    http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals! up yours!

    by daeros on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:14:26 PM PDT

    •  There is NO lack of sinceneness for what he did (0+ / 0-)

      for valerie lakey... So why does everyone assume the two americas sentiment was completely dishonest?

      http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals! up yours!

      by daeros on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:16:12 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  He was paid well for the case, (2+ / 0-)
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        which was also essentially a slamdunk for any remotely competent lawyer.  The little girl's injuries were so squirmingly horrific, and the care that she will need for the rest of her life so great, that the defendant would have needed a jury made up entirely of sociopaths and psychopaths to have any chance of winning.  Why do you think they kept trying to settle, and the Lakeys and Edwards kept refusing the offers?

        Of course it's a good thing that Edwards took the case, and it's a wonderful thing that Valerie Lakey has money for her medical needs.  Nor is it wrong that Edwards was compensated well for his work.  But the Lakey case doesn't really prove anything about Edwards except that he was a competent lawyer.  For this gimme case, he got money, headlines, and a launching base for his political career.  There's nothing wrong with any of that, either, but it means there's no way to be sure what he was being motivated by.  It's all speculation.

        And I actually think this prosecution is a waste of time, mind you, since it doesn't appear that the prosecutors have enough evidence to obtain a conviction.

  •  Mistrial (3+ / 0-)
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    Sandy on Signal, daeros, lysias

    "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

    by LaurenMonica on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:24:40 PM PDT

    •  Not guilty on one of the counts, (0+ / 0-)

      mistrial on the other five.

      When do we find out how the jury voted on those five counts?

      The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

      by lysias on Thu May 31, 2012 at 02:05:06 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  he's an asshole, but i hope he walks (3+ / 0-)
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    lysias, Delilah, Dem Beans

    for the sake of his kids who have been through enough already

    i think my cat is possessed by dick cheney

    by Anton Bursch on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:27:39 PM PDT

  •  My comback to right-wing yappers... (6+ / 0-)
    Democrat lies about sex.
    Republicans lie about weapons of mass destruction.
    ... any questions?

    Have you noticed?
    Politicians who promise LESS government
    only deliver BAD government.

    by jjohnjj on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:28:37 PM PDT

  •  Bush, Cheney & Rumsfeld remain at large (7+ / 0-)

    80 % of success is showing up

    Corporate is not the solution to our problem

    Corporate is the problem

    by Churchill on Thu May 31, 2012 at 01:31:12 PM PDT

  •  Obama Justice (3+ / 0-)
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    lysias, cinsch, Andrew M

    John Edwards, Whistleblowers, and Roger Clemens have been prosecuted by the Obama Justice Department.  No banksters, torturers, or Jon Ensign were prosecuted.  The homeless guys in Miami who were going to blow up the Sears Tower after they found some tennis shoes were prosecuted 3 times.   It's a question of priorities.    

  •  Two words; Newt Gingrich (1+ / 0-)
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    politicalceci

    If that despicable lying crook can resurrect his political career after all he did, to become an actual serious candidate for President, then for better or worse Edwards may be back soon too.

    Romney 2012 - You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

    by Fordmandalay on Thu May 31, 2012 at 02:32:40 PM PDT

  •  What pisses me off the most is what they both did (0+ / 0-)

    to Elizabeth.   She did not deserve to go through that.   I include Raielle or however you spell her name in this condemnation -- we know what causes babies in this day and age.   If you were truly in love, couldn't you wait?

  •  two observations (0+ / 0-)

    1 why was there three straight hours of the MSNBC host of whatever show was on saying: What's happening?  followed by several other people saying "I don't know"...

    could we not have been treated to some other stories while we waited?????

    on the other hand, the jury did us one little favor:  we didn't see real news interrupted so we could watch GWB's protrait being hung....

    I do hope my favorite Blueberry Pie show, and Big Ed, and Rachel have something else to discuss ....

    BTW, I too supported Edwards at first.  For two reasons... I believed what he said about the "two Americas" and he was always bringing up homeless veterans... whatever sins he was committing, he was trying to remind us about these issues...and that made his fall all the more painful...

    well, blueberry pie has edwards on ...

    Give your heart a real workout! Love your enemies!

    by moonbatlulu on Thu May 31, 2012 at 03:01:50 PM PDT

  •  Remember his message and not the man (0+ / 0-)

    As far as his personal actions there is no defense; but I would like to think his campaigns moved the dial in the progressive direction.  

  •  I was labeled a troll (2+ / 0-)
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    Old Iowa Liberal, cinsch

    ... and banned from the "undemocratic attic" for refusing to drink the Edwards hater kool-ade. No doubt there is much wailing and gnashing of teeth going on there now :)

    Edwards "Two Americas" message preceded Occupy's 99% theme. His campaign resonated so well with voters it forced Hillary's and Obamas campaigns to the left, earning him enemies among corporate democrats as well as the enemies he made when he unseated racist homophobe Jesse Helms.

    Suck on that, PlaceHoldder!  HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

    •  Just because Edwards wasn't convicted (2+ / 0-)
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      doesn't mean he isn't a scumbag.  He is.

      •  so now we go by (1+ / 0-)
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        cinsch

        The standards of the american family ass-ociation to determine who is fit for office and who is not. The repugs and dino's tried to get him and failed. :-)    HAHAHAHAHA!!!  DOING MY HAPPY DANCE!  LOL!

        •  If your standards don't object to a guy (0+ / 0-)

          who pulled the kind of sleazy crap that Edwards did, then that reflects poorly on you, not me.  

          Edwards' political career has been destroyed, and he has zero credibility as a public figure anymore.  And the "repugs and dinos" had noting to do with it, it was his own douchebaggery.

          •  elizabeth edwards (0+ / 0-)

            Illness and death was a tragedy. However, I find the attempt by rethugs and dino's to use it to justify a kangaroo court trial initiated by an ambitious Bush appointee disgusting. The man had an affair during a time of extreme stress in his marriage, and likely the problems began long before Elizabeth became ill. He wasn't hitting on detectives in bathroom stalls or having hookers put diapers on him. And I would rather have a man with human failings who is willing to fight for my interests as opposed to one who has the jerry falwell seal of approval who wants to help the rich dig my grave. There is a saying - "if you try to destroy an enemy and fail, you'd better dig two graves." We will be hearing more from Edwards in the future.

  •  This is such an all around trajedy (1+ / 0-)
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    politicalceci

    that I can see no bright side.  It reminds me, however, when the Elliott Spitzer secret investigation got leaked to the press -the one guy smart enough in New York to know what Wall Street was up too and smart enough to do somehting about it.

    Edwards message will be forever buried under being "that guy"-it reminds me of far too many chapters in Howard Zinn's "Peoples History" where people who should have held together and supported each other were manipulated and driven apart, held down and abused until FDR went all Class Traitor.  

    For the life of me, I see no Repub with the decency, and no Dem with the guts.  No banksters, no war criminals-just a politically driven prosecution from a guy running for congress.  If this justice department believed in justice this would never have gone to trial.   So disappointing.

  •  I'll say one thing: (0+ / 0-)

    It's not surprising this debacle was drawn out during an election year.  Edwards' trial was done deliberately to turn voters against the POTUS and the rest of the Democratic party.  Not to mention, inflict a divide within the Dem. party.

    This trial is the equivalent of throwing in something highly toxic into a well and poisoning a water supply.

    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin

    by politicalceci on Thu May 31, 2012 at 06:37:45 PM PDT

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