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Since the passing of the Affordable Care Act occurred there has been a hue and cry raised by the Republican party about how it was socialism, freedom destroying and the end of America as we know it. Now any person with a shred of intellectual curiosity and at least minimal critical thinking skills could easily look into these claims and dismiss them as the crock of shit that they very clearly are. Unfortunately, when you take a group of Americans who have been primed by the lies of talk radio and fed with a constant diet of misinformation from Fox News tend to choose not to listen to reason because it never enters their universe.

Now that the constitutionality of the law has been upheld, that stew has boiled over.

Follow me below the fold to see how the toxic stew of fear, lies and misinformation have collided in Mississippi and once again we have calls for the overthrow of the government.

I am going to break the statement down into paragraphs with my analysis of each.

http://msteaparty.ning.com/... (please note this is a link to the MS Tea Party homepage, so click at your own risk)

MSTP STATEMENT ON OBAMACARE RULING
6/29/2012

With its 5-4 ruling upholding Obamacare the US Supreme Court has joined with the Executive and Legislative branches of the federal government in abandoning the Constitution, the Rule of Law, and with that ruling abandoned the People.   All of us are now simply chattel of the government to be used and ordered about as they choose.   The history books will mark this date as the day our constitutional republic was killed.  It will now rest with We The People to decide if it will be resurrected or left to rot in the shallow grave dug for it.

The opening paragraph is rife with hyperbole, but honestly isn't very outrageous on it's surface. It hits all the fearmongering high points (chattel of the government, left to rot in it's shallow grave). Pretty standard stuff.
 
Where is the weeping and wailing?  Where is the anger and outrage?  Do the people of the country realize what has just been stolen from them?  Do the people of the world recognize that the shadow of darkness is now fallen upon them as well and that there remains no defender of their feeble freedoms?  The all out oppression of all people has begun.
 
More anger stoking here, by asking "where is the anger and outrage?" the author is attempting to provoke people from merely being pissed off into full on apoplexy. I especially love the idea that since we passed health care reforms, the rest of the world no longer has a defender of "their feeble freedoms". It's insulting on a couple of different levels the most obvious one being that every other nation on the planet is dependent upon the US for their salvation and that they cannot manage without us. How the ACA destroys our ability to defend other nations freedom is beyond me
Those “occupiers” now controlling the three federal branches of government have joined together in rejecting all Constitutional restraint and in doing so they have severely violated their oaths to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.  Together they now stand as blatant usurpers of power and have reduced our constitutional republic, along with all of its freedoms, to nothing more than a dictatorial junta.  Becoming a banana republic is next.
 
Now we are getting somewhere. Note the use of "occupiers" in scare quotes designed to challenge the legitimacy of duly elected officials, the accusations of treason, and the assertion that we are living in a dictatorial junta and are rapidly on our way to becoming a banana republic. To paraphrase a South Park episode "This is what Tea Partiers actually believe".
When a gang of criminals subvert legitimate government offices and seize all power to themselves without the real consent of the governed their every act and edict is of itself illegal and is outside the bounds of the Rule of Law.  In such cases submission is treason.  Treason against the Constitution and the valid legitimate government of the nation to which we have pledged our allegiance for years.  To resist by all means that are right in the eyes of God is not rebellion or insurrection, it is patriotic resistance to invasion.
 
And here's the money paragraph. I've bolded the most important bit of text but the whole thing is a cry for the good people of the MS Tea Party to take up arms against the government. All the rhetoric about occupiers has now reached it's culmination. Not only is it not treason to revolt it is treason to not revolt . Note the line "In Such cases submission is treason". That lays it out pretty succinctly doesn't it. Not only does it support violent overthrow but it tells the reader that anyone who doesn't support such is in fact a traitor themselves and therefore a legitimate target. Now you may note that the very last sentence puts in an escape hatch by saying "To resist by all means that are right in the eyes of God is not rebellion and insurrection." See how smart that was? That way they can say "of course we aren't advocating killing police officers and judges and DMV employees, we said anything that was right in the eyes of God. It's a way to weasel out of the otherwise brutal rhetoric and say that you were really meaning the ballot box, not the bullet box.

Last paragraph

May all of us fall on our faces before the Heavenly Judge, repent of our sins, and humbly cry out to Him for mercy on our country.  And, may godly courageous leaders rise up in His wisdom and power to lead us in displacing the criminal invaders from their seats and restore our constitutional republic.

Roy Nicholson
Chairman
Mississippi Tea Party
 

Now this is the final attempt to paint this in a "no really we're just talking about voting out the Democrats, not shooting them" light. But I'm sorry, you can't have it both ways, you can't call for violent overthrow and then at the very end of your rant put a tiny disclaimer sentence that makes it all ok. Especially if that disclaimer still uses your dehumanizing rhetoric in it.

In summary, once again we have a right wing group advocating violent overthrow of the government, and when Obama gets reelected (yes I said when not if, I have faith), are there going to be members of this group who will move from rhetoric into action? I think so.

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  •  Mississippi + Tea Party = What you'd expect! (11+ / 0-)

    Looks like we need a Second Reconstruction, if you ask me.

    Romney '12: Bully for America!

    by Rich in PA on Sat Jun 30, 2012 at 02:56:38 PM PDT

  •  You can't cure the stupid. (11+ / 0-)

    Those old dogs aren't learning any new tricks.

    look for my eSci diary series Thursday evening.

    by FishOutofWater on Sat Jun 30, 2012 at 03:04:06 PM PDT

  •  The repugs dog whistles are being largely unheard (4+ / 0-)

    for the most part. Every victory for Obama and the Dems that does not end up in total apocalypse (ie: all of them) serves to undermine the repugs even further.

    'This is a dark day for America. If we are forced to have healthcare, it's only a matter of time before we have education.'" ~ John Boehner

    by furriner on Sat Jun 30, 2012 at 03:06:42 PM PDT

  •  I think (3+ / 0-)

    after No-Talent Nugent...these guys definitely deserve a visit from the FBI.
    I'm sure it's all just a simple misunderstanding-or so they''ll claim(cause these people are actually fucking neutered when it comes to backing up any of their macho bullshit)

    If you think it's a good idea for you to not to be forced to call your insurance company immediately after being pulled from a flaming wreck to be certain that the emergency room visit is covered...you might be FOR the PPACA!

    by workingclasszero on Sat Jun 30, 2012 at 03:07:48 PM PDT

    •  when to call in the FBI or other agency: (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      llywrch, BlueMississippi

      1)  Generic statements calling for revolution (system-change not necessarily violent) or insurrection (armed uprising) (the difference is important) are protected speech.

      2)  Specific threats in the 1st person singular or plural, against specific individuals, are prosecutable.  For example "We're going to take out so-and-so."  These are obvious: there is no mistaking them, you will recognize them unambiguously when you see them.  Law enforcement can and will take action in these cases.

      3)  Unfortunately, due to another Supreme Court ruling, calls for others to kill specific persons are protected speech, e.g. "You should assassinate so-and-so."  This is a loophole big enough to fly a jetliner through and into a building.  Law enforcement can't prosecute these, but can keep an eye on them to see that they don't turn into (2).  

      When the person targeted by (2) or (3) is the President, the Secret Service want to know.  And when the target of (2) or (3) is a Congressmember, Senator, or federal judge, the US Marshals want to know.

      If in doubt of who exactly to call, you can always start with your local FBI office:

      Be sure to have the URLs, and best of all have screen shots of the material in question (date & time stamped).

      If it appears that the threat is immediate (someone is about to commit a violent act), call as soon as you see it.   FBI, Secret Service, and US Marshals, are all available 24/7/365.  After hours you may reach the Duty Officer who is basically a super-receptionist with clearances and authority, who will take the info and have an agent or officer call you back.  

      However, if it does not appear that a threat is immediate, wait until normal business hours to make the call.  There has been so much threat activity in recent years, that all of these agencies are busy dealing with it constantly.  They need their sleep and they need their weekends for time with family, so don't call during night/weekend hours unless you're looking at an immediate threat.  

      "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

      by G2geek on Sat Jun 30, 2012 at 07:00:58 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  "Observe and report only." (0+ / 0-)

      This is really important.

      If you see online activity that appears to involve threats or plans of violence against public officials, do not communicate with the persons-of-interest (POIs).  

      Anything you say to them could result in them getting an entrapment defense.  For example, "Oh, so you're going to assassinate so-and-so?"  Bad, wrong, do not go there.  Civilians who intend to report to law enforcement, can cause POIs to gain entrapment defenses.  This was made amply clear to me years ago when I was doing intel on rightie terrorist groups.  

      There is also the risk that if you start communicating with a POI, you could blow a law enforcement investigation.  Telling some online creep, "I'm going to report you" is only going to scare them off or make them hide.  LE wants them to stay right where they are so they can be found and observed.  Do not chase them away where they will be harder to spot.  

      Observe and report only.  Do not interact with a POI in any way.  

      Take screen-shots, date/time stamped, for use as evidence.
      Keep copies of URLs, and anything you receive via mailing lists, etc., all as potential evidence.  

      If/when you contact law enforcement, let them know that you know the "observe and report only" rule, so they don't have to worry about you going off and making a mess of something.  

      We can be eyes & ears to protect our public officials against threats and violent acts.  That role is sufficiently important that it's worth doing.  "Observe and report" catches badguys, whether plane-jane crooks (neighborhood watch) or potential terrorists.  

      "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

      by G2geek on Sat Jun 30, 2012 at 07:09:21 PM PDT

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  •  Barcaloungers to the front lines - (6+ / 0-)

    ready, aim ... recline!

    "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

    by Bob Love on Sat Jun 30, 2012 at 03:14:35 PM PDT

  •  T&R + hotlist for the great interpretation of what (5+ / 0-)

    they are really saying. We've had a local bagger writing some crazy lte's lately. If I start seeing this kind of rhetoric I'm going to call them out.

    if a habitat is flooded, the improvement for target fishes increases by an infinite percentage...because a habitat suitability index that is even a tiny fraction of 1 is still infinitely higher than zero, which is the suitability of dry land to fishes.

    by mrsgoo on Sat Jun 30, 2012 at 03:14:50 PM PDT

  •  The funniest part (2+ / 0-)
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    historys mysteries, joe wobblie

    is that I think we all know that the Tea Party will never experience the brutal unleahsing of state violence that the actual "Occupiers" got to experience.  Instead they'll be reached out to in "a spirit of goodwill and bipartisan comity" unlike the members of the Freedom Road Socialist Organization who had their doors kicked in, in one case an aquarium smashed and the fish left to die flopping helplessly on the floor as a "warning"  to "the suspects" by the DOJ personnel carrying out the smash-and-grab.

    Nothing like that will ever happen to the Tea Party, a fact that the Tea Party knows quite well and uses as proof of their moral superiority in their outreach.

    The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike from sleeping under bridges. ~ Anatole France

    by ActivistGuy on Sat Jun 30, 2012 at 03:16:30 PM PDT

    •  I get your point, but I would not call it "funny" (1+ / 0-)
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      historys mysteries

      But yes, there is a very big double standard at play here.

      sin and love and fear are just sounds that people who never sinned nor loved nor feared have for what they never had and cannot have until they forget the words

      by harrije on Sat Jun 30, 2012 at 03:20:23 PM PDT

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  •  Suggestion for Pres Obama (13+ / 0-)

    On 7/4. when the supposed Tea Party rally is going on in DC, he should invite a random group of them to the White House (at the last minute, so they don't preplan things).
    He should open it up to the press and TV.
    The only ground rules are that they are expected to behave themselves in a civil way, but otherwise he will discuss their concerns.
    Perhaps he can ask some relevant other government officials to join him (Cabinet members and the like) or other experts.
    Then he should ask them what's on their minds.

    It would be very interesting.

    •  The United States does not (6+ / 0-)

      negotiate with terrorists.

      Mitt Romney- "I was born a poor black child."

      by nellgwen on Sat Jun 30, 2012 at 03:21:34 PM PDT

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    •  Or maybe just (2+ / 0-)
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      historys mysteries, joe wobblie

      treat them the way Occupy people get treated?  

      Aw, who am I kidding?  The system loves itself some Tea Party, it's the system's bulwark of patriotic Americanism against any leftward motion, but fears and hates not just Occupy but Occupiers.

      The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike from sleeping under bridges. ~ Anatole France

      by ActivistGuy on Sat Jun 30, 2012 at 03:23:03 PM PDT

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      •  I said DC protestors (3+ / 0-)
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        historys mysteries, lcrp, exterris

        I didn't say necessarily the ones calling for open rebellion (not that I'd rule that out).

        My guess is that it would be a PR coup for him, plus it would get the media to focus on the zombie lies these people believe more effectively than any other way.

        It's Obama's style to engage people. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't (the latter case, elected Repubs). But in this case, I think he'd come out way ahead.

      •  Better yet, (2+ / 0-)
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        historys mysteries, G2geek

        Have Occupy Washington show up at the rally with free iced tea and cold water for everyone! I'm sure the organizers will be scalping their own attendees for such items, so let's bury them with kindness...

    •  I would love to see this happen n/t (1+ / 0-)
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      G2geek
    •  Doing so would either not work or be very stupid (0+ / 0-)

      as there is no way in hell they would agree to leave their guns at home for the meeting which means either Obama gets blasted by the right for not being "bipartisan" by insisting they leave their guns at home or he lets them bring their guns with them to the meeting which would be stupid for obvious reasons.

      There is no saving throw against stupid.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Sat Jun 30, 2012 at 05:45:02 PM PDT

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      •  Huh? (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        G2geek

        They can't take guns into the White House. Even the most dense of their group would understand it.
        No one would react the way you suggest.

        •  Those of us old enough (1+ / 0-)
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          exterris

          or who saw Oliver Stone's film will recall that during a massive two day anti-Vietnam demonstration, Nixon left the White House to go to the Lincoln Memorial, occupied by protestors. He managed to somewhat disarm them (I think they were shocked), but basically he had zero skill at engaging them.
          Obama on the other hand would own them. And he'd gain huge points with the public I suspect.
          And the contrast to Romney keeping out anyone not a certain supportor to his events would be striking.

        •  Secret Service agent to Tea Party member: (1+ / 0-)
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          llywrch

          "Nice shootin' iron you've got there.  I'm sure you know you can't bring that into a meeting with the President.  If you want to meet with the President, we'll have to hold on to that while you do.  If you're not comfortable letting us keep it for an hour, find someone else in your group who can come instead."

          Choice:  Let the Secret Service agents hand on to your firearm for an hour or two, and get to meet with the President of the United States, or find someone else to go to that meeting.  

          Something tells me that the Tea Party will find it in them to let the Secret Service hold their firearms in exchange for getting a chance to complain directly to the leader of the free world.

          "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

          by G2geek on Sat Jun 30, 2012 at 07:15:51 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  What I'd do (0+ / 0-)

      to explicate further

      I'd engage with one of the broadcast networks and ask them to find 12 protestors, and have them recruit them for a TV program where their views are discussed.
      After finding the 12 (or whatever number - maybe get an extra numberm but keep it low so most or all can ask questions) - put them in a studio, tell them it will be taped or shone live. If they want to back out, fine.
      They'd go through security of some sort (maybe with the excuse that it they tape in a nearby government building).
      Then Obama walks in, right after they are told (so those who object can leave).
      And go from there.
      Serve them food, drinks - maybe a 4th of July barbeque.

      It would be great TV.

  •  Here we have a fellow, who wouldn't have the (3+ / 0-)

    right to vote if the reconstruction era hadn't ended. Where people in his region committed treason against the U.S.. Now he is calling for treason again. Go ahead guy, when you lose again, reconstruction as far as he is concerned want end with him getting the right to vote again.

    Anyway, a tea party in the south? Why? Southern states didn't  protest taxes and hardly any of them fought in the revolutionary war. When the war was over, the north sent a lot of them back to Great Britain. Traitors

    In the civil war, confederate president Jeff Davis asked for help from the very people we defeated in the revolution. Traitors.

    What I am saying, a rightwinger out of Mississippi calling himself a tea partier and talking about overthrowing the government when people like him didn't fight for the government we have. What is it with rightwingers committing treason all the time?

  •  Glenn Greenwald's excellent comment on this (0+ / 0-)

    The liberal Think Progress charges one of the Miss Tea Party guys with treason.

    You know what that means. The president can lock them up and throw away the key. And more can be done.

    But these are not Muslims so never mind.

    Check out the always thoughtful analysis of Greenwald

    http://www.salon.com/...

  •  A friend just drove through Mississippi (7+ / 0-)

    on her way to and from Florida. and there is definitely something strange going on there.  Both her cell phone and the fancy electronics in her car went wacko in Miss.  The cell phone pretty much died, and the compass in her car was off by 180 degrees, then 120, etc., until they reached Fla., when it went back to normal.  

    Same thing on the return trip, except that her cell phone, which she'd switched off long ago, decided to text gibberish to her husband's phone.  She asked him why he didn't answer the call and he told her it was because it came from her phone, which was in her purse in the backseat!

    Soooo, to get back to the topic somewhat, there is something "in the air" in Mississippi.  I'm leaning toward (space) alien invasion.  Good thing the majority of people trust the president to handle that kind of thing.  :-)

    -7.62, -7.28 "Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams die, life is a broken winged bird that cannot fly." -Langston Hughes

    by luckylizard on Sat Jun 30, 2012 at 04:00:46 PM PDT

    •  The rest of Mitt Romney's species are landing. (2+ / 0-)
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      luckylizard, joe wobblie

      Health care is a right.

      by Fireshark on Sat Jun 30, 2012 at 04:26:20 PM PDT

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    •  Maybe it's the anal probes that drove MS nutz. (0+ / 0-)

      Most Republicans are against contraception because you can't get pregnant from anal sex. ---Chelsea Handler

      by hobie1616 on Sat Jun 30, 2012 at 06:21:22 PM PDT

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    •  electrical storms nearby, or.... (0+ / 0-)

      .... high voltage power transmission lines alongside the highway, or possibly a high-wattage radio station's transmitting antenna nearby.  Or some kind of localized geomagnetic anomaly.

      The condition that induced the unusual behavior of the devices could have happened in one locale, and caused the devices to misbehave until they were rebooted or passed into another carrier's service area.  

      I'm not aware of any surveillance system that has the effects you're describing, on both a cellphone and a GPS device.

      "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

      by G2geek on Sat Jun 30, 2012 at 07:24:53 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  When conservatives don't get their way... (2+ / 0-)
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    defluxion10, llywrch

    ...then everything is illegitimate, anti-freedom, tyrannical, anti-American and anti-God.

    What's ironic (and tragic, really) is that not only are those very people devastated that insurance companies don't call all the shots anymore, but they don't even care that corporations can now buy elections... The Koch and Fox effect if full display...

    The rest of the world? Sorry to break the news, but the US hasn't been their guiding star for a while. The torture, citizen united case, healthcare issue, and quite frankly the conservative lunacy and bigotry have all irectly contributed to this fact...

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