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IDF confiscates water containers from Palestinians and Bedouins in Jordan Valley.

Avi confiscates water containers..."There is reason to suspect they used the above merchandise for carrying out an offense."...Welcome to the land of apartheid.
That's not my opinion. That's the respected (by some) Progressive Israeli newspaper Haaretz.

Do you wonder how you use a water container to carry out an offense?

For that, you have to follow me down the orange rabbit hole to the land of Sentence First, Verdict After.

Why, you use it to steal water that you are illegally prevented from accessing. Which, then, is the offense?

I am an anti-Zionist Jewish Buddhist. Some people think that that is impossible, so I must really be an anti-Zionist anti-Semite. Some of these people think that any Jew, even any Israeli who opposes actions by the Israeli government is a vicious anti-Semite. That includes some here on Daily Kos, who have in the past claimed that I am not only an anti-Semite, but a troll and a sock puppet, and tried to donut me to death.

It didn't work. I got my mojo back, all the way up to Trusted User. But they had taught me a lesson. You don't challenge the I/Pers on dKos who claim that they own the topic, and only they can criticize either Israelis or Palestinians. You don't cross them with opinion, not even with fact. I stayed away from the whole issue.

But no more. This is too much.

Avi's bosses claim the "offense" is stealing water from a pipe. This is why the containers are seized - with no inquiry, no trial. Welcome to the land of lawlessness and evil. Welcome to the land of apartheid. Israel does not permit thousands of these wretched people to hook up to the water pipes. This water is for Jews only...The axis of evil is located about an hour's drive from your home. But emotionally distant and far from the heart, it inspires no "social protest." The occupation is enlightened, Israel is right, the IDF is the most moral army, and apartheid is merely an invention of Israel's haters. Go to the Jordan Valley and see for yourselves.
Article in Hebrew

We who follow the ongoing Israel/Palestine disaster know that non-Jews such as Jimmy Carter are of course not permitted to say that Israel practices Apartheid. We know that Jews such as Justice Goldstone are lambasted as anti-Semites when they have the temerity to suggest that Israel commits war crimes. But even we may not know that Haaretz has been calling out Israel for Apartheid laws since 2007.

Where is the occupation?
The occupied territories and the Palestinians living there are slowly becoming virtual realities, distant from the eye and the heart.
Haaretz Editorial    | Oct.03, 2007

The de facto separation is today more similar to political apartheid than an occupation regime because of its constancy. One side - determined by national, not geographic association - includes people who have the right to choose and the freedom to move, and a growing economy. On the other side are people closed behind the walls surrounding their community, who have no right to vote, lack freedom of movement, and have no chance to plan their future.
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  •  Sad that the Overton Window is so much wider (0+ / 0-)

    within Israel than here in the US.

  •  swiss cheez (4+ / 0-)

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    This Rover crossed over.. Willie Nelson, written by Dorothy Fields

    by Karl Rover on Mon Jul 09, 2012 at 03:17:25 PM PDT

  •  It does inspire "Social Protest" (5+ / 0-)

    Anarchists Against the Wall have been resisting Israeli apartheid and more specifically the wall for years now. They've been harassed and even shot by Israeli troops for their efforts.

    There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

    by AoT on Mon Jul 09, 2012 at 03:21:59 PM PDT

  •  From the Jordan River to the Sea (6+ / 0-)

    Equal rights for all. Civil Liberties for all.  Democracy for all.  One person one vote.  No discrimination based on ethnicity or religion.

    This aggression will not stand, man.

    by kaleidescope on Mon Jul 09, 2012 at 03:40:35 PM PDT

    •  This is what Israelis are scared of (5+ / 0-)
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      That the Palestinian liberation movement will turn into a civil rights struggle, which many Americans can easily identify with.

    •  Quite difficult (0+ / 0-)

      I know of no country that has successfully balanced two religions or two languages.

      Lebanon, Christians and Muslims, all speaking Arabic

      Belgium, Christians speaking French and Flemish

      Canada, Protestants and Catholics, English and French

      Cyprus, Christians and Muslims, Greek and Turkish

      Four languages, as in Switzerland, can evidently be made to work if the regions have sufficient autonomy, and the schools routinely teach children to speak three languages, among other things.

      I know that nobody wants to talk about something like joining Christians, Muslims and Jews in Israel, Palestine, and Lebanon, and adopting English as a third official language, in order to create a balance in which no single faction is the majority.

      Hands off my ObamaCare[TM]

      by Mokurai on Mon Jul 09, 2012 at 04:19:43 PM PDT

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      •  Germany has a roughly 50/50 split (1+ / 0-)
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        between Catholics and Protestants and has managed since the end of the 30-year war.

        Republicans believe you need an ID to vote but you can donate millions to any candidate completely anonymously. (h/t jbou)

        by Calouste on Mon Jul 09, 2012 at 04:26:05 PM PDT

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        •  Well done (0+ / 0-)

          Although I'm sorry that it took a Thirty Years War to get them to that point. Well, Israel and Palestine and their neighbors have been at it, off and on, for more than 70 years officially, and even longer unofficially, so whenever they do get over it, me can hope that it might stick.

          Hands off my ObamaCare[TM]

          by Mokurai on Mon Jul 09, 2012 at 04:30:00 PM PDT

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      •  Well you quoted one (1+ / 0-)
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        The Republic of Ireland has two official languages and although predominantly Catholic has a Protestant minority.

        Within the United Kingdom, Wales is fully bilingual and Gaelic is recognised as a minority language within Scotland and has its own TV and radio station.

        Spain has several official languages depending on the regions where Catalan and Basque stand alongside Castillian.

        Up to the mid 19th century a minority of French spoke French!


        Fight poverty, oppression, hunger, ignorance, disease and aggression wherever they occur.

        by Lib Dem FoP on Mon Jul 09, 2012 at 05:45:26 PM PDT

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        •  And (1+ / 0-)
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          Both Hong Kong and Taiwan have TV in Mandarin  and Cantonese (HK) and Minnan Hua (Taiwan).

          In Indonesia people speak both Javanese and "Indonesian" a dialect of Malay.  You have two religions -- Hinduism on Bali and Islam in the rest of Indonesia.

          In India, you have two religions -- both Islam and Hinduism -- and many, many languages -- Hindi, Urdu, Teligu, Tamil, etc.

          Vietnam, Malaysia, Thailand and Laos have huge minority populations of Han Chinese.

          In LA, Dodgers Stadium is the home of the kosher terriaki burrito.

          This aggression will not stand, man.

          by kaleidescope on Mon Jul 09, 2012 at 07:01:23 PM PDT

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        •  True, but not what I was thinking of (1+ / 0-)
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          In the same way, Korea used to have two languages when it came out from under Japanese rule at the end of WW II. But Korea, Ireland, Wales, and Scotland do not have two ethnicities speaking one language each and perpetually at each others' throats. They have their own languages, each outlawed for a time in their own land, and the language of their imperial masters.

          Spain had seemingly endless fighting with Basque separatists, and Catalonia was at the center of the Spanish Civil War. But things are definitely getting better there.

          I should mention that I am also part Scottish and part Welsh, and that I served in the Peace Corps in South Korea.

          Hands off my ObamaCare[TM]

          by Mokurai on Mon Jul 09, 2012 at 07:12:55 PM PDT

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  •  What's really interesting (8+ / 0-)

    about all this is that the movement towards apartheid in Mandate Palestine began before the creation of the state of Israel. Israelis set up their own institutions and even Israeli unions operated under the slogan Hebrew Labor, discriminating as far as possible against non-Jewish workers.

    When the first batch of Palestinians was ethnically cleansed in 1948, it was obvious that the Jews wanted the land but not the people. This became obvious again in 1967when more land was taken and more the people cleansed. It's happening to this day - thousands of people lose the right to live in East Jerusalem or the West Bank, are kicked out of desirable homes and land near Jerusalem, Hebron, the Jordan Valley etc into undesirable areas while private Israeli citizens can just build on private Palestinian land and know if they kick up enough fuss, the government will eventually legitimise their claims. Water is distributed incredibly unequally, resources are mined and taken away for Israeli use, and separate roads are built for settlers and Palestinians. The settlers get the brand new well-lit roads with the good connections and Palestinians get windy tracks through the mountains with tunnels etc so that they don't come into contact with Jews/Israelis. Not to mention the inhumanity of the military occupation with arbitrary martial law, administrative detention, checkpoints, and the Apartheid Wall which is stealing even more land from Palestinians.  

    And we're not even mentioning the second-class citizenship status of 1948 Palestinians (those inside Israel) and the 'starve them but don't kill them' diet that Israel has subjected Gazans to for the past few years.

    How can it be anything else but separation/hafrada/apartheid?

    •  starvation diet (3+ / 0-)

      I saw a comment in an I/P diary where a Likkud apologist made the claim that because Gaza exports food to Israel, no one can be starving.  

      I responded that oppressed starving people often are forced to export food to their oppressors, citing the fact that during the great Irish famine that killed and displaced millions of Irish, Ireland was still a net exporter of food to Britain.

      Here's a satellite pic of the west bank that demonstrates some of what you were talking about, with an Israeli settlement in the upper right corner looking like a California subdivision, and a Palestinian refugee camp in the lower left:

      •  Yes, and Ireland exported food to England (2+ / 0-)
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        during the Potato Famine. The Free Market Whig Parliament in England refused to provide any famine relief even though many wanted to, because they refused to concede the ideological argument to the Tories.

        Hands off my ObamaCare[TM]

        by Mokurai on Mon Jul 09, 2012 at 07:24:12 PM PDT

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