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Virginia Republican gubernatorial nominee Ken Cuccinelli stands onstage with his wife Teiro Cuccinelli (R) and their family as he gives his concession speech at his election night event in Richmond, Virginia, November 5, 2013. Democratic Party insider Terry McAuliffe narrowly defeated Republican Cuccinelli, a Tea Party favorite, to win the nationally watched Virginia governor's race on Tuesday, U.S. television networks reported. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst    (UNITED STATES - Tags: POLITICS ELECTIONS) - RTX151RM
Well, that didn't work out so well for you, huh?
Was the Virginia governor's race really a referendum on Obamacare? Of course not. Exit polling that showed just 27 percent of people calling Obamacare the number one issue for them proves that the only people (outside the Beltway) obsessed with Obamacare are tea partiers. But could the obsession over Obamcare actually have hurt Cuccinelli? Possibly, Terry McAuliffe’s pollster, Geoff Garin tells Greg Sargent.
Garin said the campaign specifically polled on Cuccinelli’s bragging point as the first attorney general to target the health law, and that it was a loser for him.

“We tested Cuccinelli’s brag that he was the first attorney general to sue to stop Obamacare,” Garin said. “That actually made more voters less likely to support him than more.”

This will strike commentators as impossible to believe. If a majority in Virginia disapproves of Obamacare, as the exit polls show, surely Cuccinelli’s call for repeal can only be a positive, right? Well, no, not necessarily. And that’s important. It turns on the idea that disapproval of the law does not necessarily translate into support for getting rid of it; that those who disapprove have multiple reasons for doing so; and that some want to give the law a chance to work anyway.

Absolutely, as we've been chronicling here at Daily Kos for months, since at least July of 2102. A variety of polls, from a variety of pollsters and media outlets, have been arguing for more than a year that the public might not be thrilled with Obamacare, but that they wanted their government to move on, to give the law a chance to work, and to actually maybe do some governing. We got confirmation of that as recently as last week, when just 24 percent of people in a national poll thought that Obamacare repeal was a good idea.

And here that was played out in a live election, where roughly a quarter of the people said they voted on Obamacare. The 2012 election should have been enough to prove that opposition to Obamacare wasn't going to be a winning issue for Republicans, since the guy whose law it is was pretty handily reelected. But it wasn't, not to Republicans and not to the traditional media which has persisted in giving Republican opposition to the law a hugely disproportionate amount of attention.

Fix it. That's the winning message.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 09:45 AM PST.

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  •  Tip Jar (31+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 09:45:21 AM PST

  •  is this true? (1+ / 0-)
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    Thousands Of Small Businesses Will Also Start Losing Their Current Health Policies Under Obamacare. Here's Why

    11/6/13...Small businesses, with fewer than 50 employees, are not forced to provide coverage under Obamacare.

    But when they do, policies sold in the small group market are subject to the same regulations now forcing the termination of millions of health plans sold directly to consumers.

    But late last year, businesses that employed fewer than 50 employees began exploiting a loophole they found in the Obamacare text. If the businesses renewed their policies early, before the end of 2013, then those plans would not be subject to Obamacare’s costly mandates for a full year, in many cases until December 31, 2014.

    But that clock is already ticking. Starting in October 2014, many employees of small businesses will start getting the same notices that are now being mailed to individuals, informing that their existing health plans are also being cancelled.

    "Tax cuts for the 1% create jobs." -- Republicans, HAHAHA - in China

    by MartyM on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 09:56:03 AM PST

    •  Forbes-"Capitalist Tool". (6+ / 0-)
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      MartyM, elwior, IM, PJEvans, Dodgerdog1, sethtriggs

      Take what you will from that.

    •  It's going to be mostly crap. (11+ / 0-)

      Unless the small employers were providing junk insurance.  Group plans have been mostly conformant to ACA standards for years now.  These small businesses are cutting off their noses to spite their faces, because they're ducking out on a) lower rates for quality insurance on the small business exchange and b) the 35% tax credit available to businesses with less than 25 employees.

      If anything, we're going to see more small businesses offering affordable health insurance to their employees.

      Economic Left/Right: -7.38
      Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.00
      Two steps to the right of Trotsky.

      by jvance on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:04:39 AM PST

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    •  I don't know the exact wording, but it's my (5+ / 0-)
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      understanding that employers with fewer than 50 employees had to inform employees of their intentions re: health insurance by 10/1/13. So, if they had employer provided health insurance, their policies could be cancelled (for non-compliance with the ACA), but that doesn't mean they will no longer have employer provided health insurance. And, of course, if employees no longer have health insurance, they can purchase their own policies via the exchanges. Note: If they work for employers with fewer than 50 employees, they probably will be eligible for subsidies.

    •  depends on the group's census (1+ / 0-)
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      My understanding is that come 1/1/2014, a group's rating will only have four dimensions:

      -number of insured (participants/dependents)
      -ages of insured
      -sex of insured
      -tobacco use

      Suppose your employees are fortunate enough to be healthier than average.  The insurer would have less risk, and would be willing to write a one-year policy on 12/1/2013 that might be cheaper....

      If your employees are of average health or worse, wait till 1/1/2014.

      •  I've wondered about the tobacco use question. (0+ / 0-)

        Doesn't it open the door to other potential pre-existing issues?  Is anyone in your group, for example, morbidly obese? And why can't people just lie about their tobacco use?

        Not expecting an answer here, just wondering.

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        Now I try to be amused
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        by smileycreek on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 12:51:46 PM PST

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  •  At least they know enough to not run (3+ / 0-)
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    elwior, JeffW, sethtriggs

    On hate of non whites, yet.

  •  I still need to be convinced of this (3+ / 0-)
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    A DC Wonk, jhecht, cryonaut

    or, rather, nothing right now could convince me that the ACA is not  an electoral weight for us.  Whether that continues is another matter.

    I think it's directly related to the closeness of yesterday's election.

    From Neocon to sane- thanks to Obama- and Kos.

    by satrap on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:06:24 AM PST

    •  weight will be lifted as more people sign up (2+ / 0-)
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      satrap, True North

      By next November, millions will be enjoying healthcare they can actually use.

      -You want to change the system, run for office.

      by Deep Texan on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:25:15 AM PST

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      •  I'm sure this is going to be true. (1+ / 0-)
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        What worries me- but what can you do but vote?- is that the votes we'll lose aren't people benefitting from the law directly but from those otherwise avg. citizens who think "Obamacare sure turned out to suck".

        From Neocon to sane- thanks to Obama- and Kos.

        by satrap on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:34:39 AM PST

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        •  remember #1 issue is not Obamacare (0+ / 0-)

          it's not healthcare.

          it's not the debt.

          it's not welfare...

          the people say jobs.  jobs, jobs, jobs! also elections are local and it's really about the candidates.

          i don't worry about the Obamacare stuff. in fact the more they talk about, the more ppl know about it.  in this case, bad press is still good press.

          -You want to change the system, run for office.

          by Deep Texan on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:47:05 AM PST

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    •  Then How Did the Cooch get so close?!?! (2+ / 0-)
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      satrap, diffrntdrummr

      (i.e., I agree with you, satrap).

      Can someone explain how Cooch narrowed the margins at the end -- which just happened to be the time of the Obamacare-website-debacle and when Cooch started focusing on that?

      Huh?  Can someone explain it, if it wasn't Obamacare?  How an absolute nutcase like Cooch, who had Ted Cruz of all people campainging for him right after the federal shutdown, while TMac had Clinton and Obama campaigning for him?


      •  Right. I think the polling reads here (0+ / 0-)

        and by Greg Sargent, etc. are 'accurate' as far as they go, but something just isn't adding up.   No way.

        From Neocon to sane- thanks to Obama- and Kos.

        by satrap on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:36:07 AM PST

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        •  thanks for the concern (1+ / 0-)
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          if Obamacare is such a loser and such an albatross, then Cuccinelli should have won, like any other Repub has when running for governor of Va. in an off year with a Dem president.  
          All this hair pulling and handwringing over a Dem's slightly lower margin of victory in an off year is unnecessary.

          •  the fact is... (0+ / 0-)

            that he was polling much better than the results -- and the Cooch suffered from a dozen drawbacks: his record, the shutdown, Christie refusing to campaign for him, Obama and Clinton campaigning against him, the GOP establishment supporting him half-heartedly, and getting seriously outraised in $$$.

            And yet he won by 2.5%.

            I'm not "hair pulling and handwringing" -- I'm just saying that something has to explain the late surge he had.  And if it's not Obamacare, then do you have something else?

      •  How? (1+ / 0-)
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        By purging as many voters as he could get away with, and going out of his way to confuse, turn off and effectively disenfranchise as many would-be Democratic Party voters as possible and reduce turnout, that's how.

        But it wasn't enough.

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        by mwm341 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 11:12:41 AM PST

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      •  I was also shocked at how close.... (0+ / 0-)

        This election was. I'm thinking that the voter roles purge played a part and I hope that someone somewhere is going to find out just how many people went to vote and were denied. If it wasn't the voter purge then I honestly can't say why that fanatic came so close, only to say that a lot more women must have voted against their best interests than we thought. Short memories?

  •  Dems should run on fixing Obamacare in 2014 (10+ / 0-)

    specifically by letting people buy into Medicare if they want and by increasing premium subsidies.  That would help take care of people who are losing their cheaper junk insurance and have to fork over more for new plans.

    "Those who have wrought great changes in the world never succeeded by gaining over chiefs; but always by exciting the multitude." - Martin Van Buren

    by puakev on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:07:31 AM PST

  •  With All The Puffy Dkos Diaries Touting How Much (3+ / 0-)

    trouble Republicans are in just doesn't pan out.

    These elections were just too close.  Democrats have a lot of work to do to turn this all around, and really no time to waste on contemplating how the Republicans  are in trouble, blah, blah, blah.

    "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and a woman.” - Arnold Schwarzenegger 2003

    by kerplunk on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:20:37 AM PST

    •  I can't say this site is full (0+ / 0-)

      of 'puffy' diaries, especially from the senior writers, but I agree that Rs have been given electoral lifeline after electoral lifeline through healthcare reform alone.  It's been sort of weird that, up until now, we have gotten a net large negative electorally out of doing this.

      From Neocon to sane- thanks to Obama- and Kos.

      by satrap on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:29:10 AM PST

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      •  Guess Obama should have never bothered to try (0+ / 0-)

        because that's unfortunately what happens when you go big... remember Lyndon Johnson after Civil Rights legislation was passed?  (we've lost the South, maybe forever).  He was right.

        And this wasn't even "going big" the way Democrats wanted and look what's happened.

        You've probably seen the end of the big initiative. It will be just incremental piecemeal patches from here on out.  Politicians will learn the lesson from this that "change" sounds great in stump speeches but in reality people prefer it in small doses.

        •  Non-responsive (0+ / 0-)

          We're just trying to correct the record -- and facing facts.

          I have full confidence that in a year or two, Obamacare will be a big winner.

          But I don't think that's the case in November of 2013, according to the public.

    •  I'd want to see (0+ / 0-)

      What voter turnout was like. McAuliffe wasn't making Dems in VA trip over ourselves to vote for him.
      Turnout is what helped his predecessor win last time around. Many of those enthusiastic Obama voters stayed home, and I wonder whether something similar occurred this time too.

      "The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract." Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

      by SNFinVA on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:38:09 AM PST

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    •  naw, Republicans just lost (2+ / 0-)
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      ...and ended a 36 year streak of electing a governor who is the other party from the president.

      Democrats ran a bad candidate who nobody likes and still beat basically the incumbent Republican in an off off year election.

      This is really bad for Republicans.

      "An inglorious peace is better than a dishonorable war." -Mark Twain

      by humanistique on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:43:56 AM PST

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    •  Too close? (3+ / 0-)
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      IM, red rabbit, sethtriggs

      The sitting AG just got beaten by Terry McAuliffe.

      There's a very strange, but predictable anchoring effect in play here. We saw, for a month or so, number around 7-10, and so now winning by 2.5% is "too close". It's not too close. It's McAuliffe somehow winning a race in which he was disadvantaged in for personal and political reasons.

      A political operative with no governing experience wins the governor's mansion against the sitting Attorney General in Virginia, where the governor's party is basically always the opposite of the President's..."too close"...good grief.

      it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

      by Addison on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:46:22 AM PST

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    •  Which elections? (2+ / 0-)
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      IM, sethtriggs

      Are you talking about just in VA or elsewhere?  Democrats actually had quite a few heartening wins yesterday (see Iowa, North Carolina) to go along with some obvious disappointments, but if your measure of "victory" is that they have to win by a certain margin to make it meaningful, then I guess yesterday was a complete GOP blowout everywhere except NYC.

      As for turning it around, I'm afraid there's not much Democrats can do.  Nothing will get through the house, and little will get through the Senate. They're trying to fix the ACA, but you know there are always going to be new revelations every week to keep a simmering unease about it. Should Obama just say - sorry, I was wrong. Let's cancel it all and start over?  Not sure that would help any Democrat's electoral chances either.

      So please, spare no thoughts on how they can turn it around in the current environment.

    •  "turn this around" (2+ / 0-)
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      mwm341, sethtriggs

      turn around what exactly?  You do realize they just won right?  It was a slightly closer race in an off year when Repubs almost always win governor of Va with a Dem president.  
      You think it's gonna be any easier for Repubs in Va. during a presidential election when Dem turnout is much higher?
      Check and see if the ACA covers adult diapers for your pantswetting.  

  •  Someone ought to go tell Lamar (5+ / 0-)

    and the rest of the Republicans on day umpteen of Obamacare hearings. They are still reading letters from supposed constituents claiming cancelled policies or 400% increase in premiums - come on people, most know by now that means the policy wasn't insurance at all and that people are not stuck with one choice - go find something that works and is affordable, it's out there for you.
    On the other hand, don't tell the dumbasses it's a loser & let them keep railing against affordable health care.

  •  not going to stop them (4+ / 0-)
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    it will be their leading issue in 2014.

    please proceed.

    -You want to change the system, run for office.

    by Deep Texan on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:23:45 AM PST

  •  "I'm a Prtestant. I can put my John Thomas any (1+ / 0-)
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    darn place I please"
    "Oh yes, dear, please do."

    (Caption for the above photo).

    Say no more!

    Please know I am not rude. I cannot rec anything from this browser. When I rec or post diaries I am a guest at some exotic locale's computer. Ayn is the bane!

    by Floyd Blue on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:28:43 AM PST

    •  Much as the Jewish G-d, I refuse to spell (0+ / 0-)

      Protestant, on religious grounds.


      Please know I am not rude. I cannot rec anything from this browser. When I rec or post diaries I am a guest at some exotic locale's computer. Ayn is the bane!

      by Floyd Blue on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:29:34 AM PST

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  •  My opinion as a Virginian (7+ / 0-)

    Is that the ACA made no difference at all. The Rs were going to vote R no matter what. That's what most Virginia Rs do.

    The NVA Dems were mobilized enough by the shutdown to turn out in this off year at least enough to win. The ACA was peripheral.

    Look at the electoral maps. VA is two states. One is rural and red, the other is urban/suburban and purple/blue. This time that urban was blue. Ergo we won.

    But turnout is the single biggest issue for VA Dems. GOTV in off-years is CRITICAL.

    •  Commitment to voting (1+ / 0-)
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      I afraid we Democrats depend a lot on people who only vote when fired up. They may only vote once every 4 years, or if one of us gives them a special reason to vote. GOTV should be a reinforcement of a commitment to vote, not just a brand new vote in this election and this one only.
      I live in Houston, who is a low-turnout community. I talk up voting in every election.
      In addition to electing Wendy Davis, my biggest hope is that next year's campaign will get more Texans committed to wanting a 2-party state and to voting in off-year elections.
      One sign of hope: Houston had a good voter turnout for an odd-numbered year.

      Censorship is rogue government.

      by scott5js on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:53:32 AM PST

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      •  Making issues "backyard" issues (0+ / 0-)

        is CRITICAL, and that has to be a big part of GOTV. Figuring out what will have "backyard" intimacy and urgency, to deliver voters to the polls, and getting that message to them somehow.

        In NVA, the percentage of federal workers is high enough that the Demcoratic message about the danger of Republican crazies hit in many, many backyards. Still, it was a close call.  But seriously, messaging matters, and making that connection matters, as does real physical outreach.

        •  But paradigm change is needed (0+ / 0-)

          We need more voters to have a more extensive backyard. Preferably the whole of politics as their backyard. If not that, at least a commitment to following all elections in which they can vote.
          I just went through the Houston elections, where voter turnout was pretty good in spite of the new voter ID law.

          Censorship is rogue government.

          by scott5js on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 02:24:51 PM PST

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  •  LOOK at the GOP's desperate spin in this headline! (1+ / 0-)
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    "If Wall Street paid a tax on every “game” they run, we would get enough revenue to run the government on." ~ Will Rogers

    by Lefty Coaster on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:32:58 AM PST

    •  Sure, if you don't mind... (2+ / 0-)
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      Lefty Coaster, sethtriggs

      ...shooting yourself in both feet.

    •  An anti-government vote? (1+ / 0-)
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      Lefty Coaster

      It seems McAuliffe did not get quite 50 % and the spoiler was a Libertarian. So this election was not a vindication of a faith in government.
      I live in Houston but I did donate to McAuliffe because he was ABC, Anyone But Cuccinelli. Cooch litigated for a reinstatement of sodomy laws. He subpoenaed E-mails of an academic who spoke out on global warming. Ask not what country can do FOR you, but what your government can do TO you.
      OK, I want the ACA to survive, as a bridge to a single-payer plan. Nevertheless I only want so much out of government. I work with many Democrats who expect more from government than I do.

      Censorship is rogue government.

      by scott5js on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 11:10:06 AM PST

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    •  Hmmmm. Weaponized healthcare... (0+ / 0-)

      I like it.

      ObamaCare! Sign-up by phone: 1-800-318-2596

      by mwm341 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 12:02:21 PM PST

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  •  For me (3+ / 0-)
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    It was Cuccinelli's absurd anti-science lawsuits, his bullying of health care agencies, his advocacy for government-as-gynecologist, TRAP laws, and especially injecting religion where it doesn't belong that made up my mind months ago.

    "The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract." Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

    by SNFinVA on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:33:06 AM PST

  •  Let's acknowledge it (3+ / 0-)
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    The Administration screwed this up from day one - literally!  They should have begun by selling it, not as healthcare reform but as health insurance affordability and availability reform.  They should never have caved on single payer before even arguing for the idea.  They should have made a major effort to publicize and "sell" the law once it was enacted (most people STILL don't understand it or what it provides).  Every time something new came into being as a result of the law, there should have been major publicity surrounding it.  They let the 'pubs take over the argument over the rollout problems by failing to connect them with 'pub cuts in spending for the new law.  They got blindsided by the "you'll lose your insurance" development and then they made their frequent mistake of letting MSNBC TV hosts carry their argument for them.  No damn wonder it's a negative political issue.

    "The test of our progress is not whether we add to the abundance of those who have much. It is whether we provide enough to those who have little. " --Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by jg6544 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:36:23 AM PST

  •  They (0+ / 0-)

    Should be encouraged to run on these issues. Encourage their idiocy. Applaud them as they support rapists and decry healthcare and feeding the poor. Well  done!  Good job!! And then watch as they get picked off the political spotlight,one by one.

  •  Oh, but NBC News's FIRST READ (3+ / 0-)
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    (FIRST READ ... dun dun dunnnn!) sez it was!
    The day after Terry McAuliffe's (D) closer-than-expected gubernatorial victory in Virginia, Republicans are arguing that Ken Cuccinelli's (R) campaign to emphasize President Barack Obama's health-care law narrowed the race.
    And, they add, that should frighten Democrats heading into the 2014 midterms.
    The top spokesman at the National Republican Senatorial Committee tweeted, "Election day takeaway? Obamacare a disaster for Democrats in '14."
    And in his remarks last night, Cuccinelli said, "Despite being outspent by an unprecedented $15 million, this race came down to the wire because of Obamacare."
  •  I'm not sure how you can "fix" a system (1+ / 0-)
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    that relies on inherently crooked private insurance companies.  Personally, I'm in the "repeal" camp so long as the repeal contains the provisions for single payer. Which of course nobody is discussing.  But that's a big difference between me and the teabaggers; I want improvement.

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    by bigtimecynic on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:42:48 AM PST

  •  The wide zoom. (2+ / 0-)
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    I think a lot of people are allowing the polls results, which seems to go 6 back to 3 back for Cuccinelli at the same time Sarvis dropped three ponts -- coincidental? -- to skew their overall take on this.

    The sitting Attorney General of a relatively prosperous and well-off state just lost the governor's race to TERRY MACAULIFFE. Think about it. How does that happen? And how is it anything other than a pretty amazing defeat for the AG?

    it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

    by Addison on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:42:57 AM PST

  •  The Cuch got 45% of the vote??? (0+ / 0-)

    Does that mean that roughly half of voting age Virginians would like a return to the early 14th century in their culture?  No wonder they still think the Civil War is going on.  They haven't progressed past the 19th century, let alone moved to the 21st.

  •  Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh! (0+ / 0-)

    I don't want to let the teabaggers in on the secret, Joan...

    The again, they are soooooooooo obsessed with Obamacare, it probably won't make a difference.

    If they want to self-destruct, then by all means, "please proceed."

  •  Per Sebelius today at the Senate hearing and (3+ / 0-)
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    the rep from the Center for Medicare and Medicaid, they Administration appears to have turned the corner in the enrollment process.  They are able to process about 17,000 apps per hour without significant errors.  

    That information is very timely, not that the media will report it.  If the enrollment process is functional, then it will give a big lift to Democrats in 2014. It won't be an electoral albatross and can be used to motivate our base to vote and to expand our base, because a lot of people who have flirted with the tea party in the past may become more invested in the new marketplace.

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    by khyber900 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:57:37 AM PST

  •  3 points spread isn't CLOSE people! <eof> (3+ / 0-)
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  •  Somebody is advising the republican (2+ / 0-)
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    mwm341, sethtriggs

    party that the fight against Obamacare will be a winner for them and they're determined to continue that and Bengotcha.

    The religious fanatics didn't buy the republican party because it was virtuous, they bought it because it was for sale

    by nupstateny on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 11:01:29 AM PST

  •  what year is it? (1+ / 0-)
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    since at least July of 2102
    I think you may have a typo there.

    (Is it time for the pitchforks and torches yet?)

    by PJEvans on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 11:12:11 AM PST

  •  you are asking the wrong questions (1+ / 0-)
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    Exit polling that showed just 27 percent of people calling Obamacare the number one issue for them proves that the only people (outside the Beltway) obsessed with Obamacare are tea partiers.
    Exit polling also showed that Obamacare was 46-53 in favorables. And that 53% voted overwhelmingly for Cuccinelli. Focus on Obamacare was pretty much the only explanation for the closeness of the race.

    The interpretation in this article is trying to spin the wrong stats.

  •  So is T-Mac going to push for (0+ / 0-)

    VA to have Medicaid expansion and its own health care exchange? Or how does that work?

    "We need institutions and cultural norms that make us better than we tend to be. It seems to me that the greatest challenge we now face is to build them." -Sam Harris, neuroscientist

    by MarthaPeregrine on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 11:18:27 AM PST

  •  but...but... (0+ / 0-)
    SteveKingIA says the gov’s race in Va was closer than expected and he attributes that to pushback on Obamacare.  #iapolitics link

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