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From ABC's This Week"

Kristol seemed to agree [with Eric Holder's withering assessment of Palin] during an ABC News panel discussion on Sunday.

No responsible Republican official has called for impeachment,” he explained. “And one problem with it is, of course, is you just get Joe Biden as president. The Republican task is to elect a Republican Senate, and to elect a Republican president in 2016, not to create a phony issue that allows Democrats to make Republicans look extreme.

Republican strategist Ann Navarro agreed that “nobody of responsibility, nobody in leadership, nobody of relevance has talked about impeachment… So, can we stick to talking about people who can actually make something happen say, and not just folks who want to make headlines say?

My my my.... so now we're supposed to only be talking about what "Responsible" Republicans have to say, not what those outside leadership, with no relevance, and who only want to make headlines say or think?

Sniff! I think I smell a really mean, snarky, semi-literate facebook post about Kristol in Palin's immediate future.

And just where exactly does all this put John Boehner and his Impeachment-Lite Plan to Sue the President?  Will it appease the pitchforkers, or simply enrage them further as too little and too late?

Somebody heat up the Reddenbacher...

It's almost cute that Kristol and Navarro think they can credibly sell the idea that somewhere, out there, over-the-rainbow... there are "Responsible Republicans" who should be taken seriously and who don't seem to spend every waking moment attempting to grab a shocking headline.

It's almost like Kristol went to sleep in 1987, then sudden woke up in the raging  drug-soaked, animal ritual sacrifice, frat toga goat-sex party that is today's GOP and can't understand who let all these rabid crazy kids into his house and where the adults are hiding? The thing is, the people with the virgin lamb on the altar about to carve him up live for Chtulu Are the Adults in the room. They're the GOP Base.

After all these years of screaming and crying about untrue bullcrap like "Death Panels", the President's "Muslim Faith", his "Kenyan Birth Certificate", his "Hatred for America" and "Anti-Colonial ways", the evils of "Fast and Furious", then "Benghazi", then "IRSghazi" then "BergdahlGhazi" and now "RefugeeGhazi" - is it any surprise that the term "Responsible Republican" is the very definition of an Oxymoron?

Let's take Texas Governor Rick Perry who thinks the most "humane" thing to do for the Central American Child Refugee Crisis is to put Troops on the border so we can send them back to the Murderers, Gangsters, Thugs, and Drug Runners even faster than we are now.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) argued on Sunday that his plan to deploy the National Guard, and to deport thousands of refugee children back to their countries as quickly as possible was “the most humanitarian thing we can do.”

In an interview with Fox News, Perry said that the best response to an estimated 50,000 women and children who were fleeing violence was a “show of force” on the border.

“Because that’s the message that gets sent back very quickly to Central America,” he explained. “It’s important to do that because this flood of children is pulling away the border patrol from their normal duties of keeping bad people — keeping the drug cartels. They’re being distracted. So, that is a very obvious that I would suggest to you that those National Guard troops should come play an important role.”

Because nothing screams "Compassion" better than priming the pumps for the Death Squad Mill.  Even though what Perry is suggesting wouldn't speed up the handling of processing and determining the proper disposition of these kids one iota.  The National Guard have been deployed at the border before, and they haven't been used to interdict and "replace" what Border Patrol does, they've been used as extra sets of eyes to help identify and spot people attempting to cross through the rough terrain in remote areas which are far more difficult to reach and remain less patrolled.

Even Brit Hume realizes that the actual role that the National Guard can fulfill on the border, isn't anything like what Perry - or Palin - think it is.

"They need to be right on the river. They need to be there as a show of force because that’s the message that gets sent back very quickly to Central America," he said.

Hume challenged Perry, asking what purpose troops could actually serve.

"They’re not, under the law, allowed to apprehend any of these children that are crossing, are they?" he asked.

"The issue is with being able to send that message because it’s the visual of it, I think, that is the most important," Perry responded. "If you don’t stop the bleeding. If you don’t staunch this flow of individuals that are coming up here, this is only going to get worse."

Hume continued to press Perry.

"But the question I’m trying to get at with you is this: if these children, who have undergone these harrowing journeys to escape from the most desperate conditions in their home countries, have gotten this far, are they really going to be deterred by the presence of troops along the border who won’t shoot them and can’t arrest them?" he asked.

"I think we’re talking about two different things here," Perry responded.

No, you're really not.  Hume is Dead-Right to point out that Guard troops are NOT Cops, nor are they Border Patrol.  They can't just walk in there and do what Border Patrol Officers do.

Perry is at least trying to address the issue that got Palin all "Impeachmentified" although he's going about it in exactly the wrong way, we still have to recall this is a long way from the first time a Republican has called to have the President Impeached for things he either didn't do or has no control of, they've been saying this Derp for years now...

August 8, 2013.  From sea to shining sea, the howls of presidential impeachment have returned to the nation this month in grand fashion. “It would be a dream come true,” said Michigan Representative Kerry Bentivolio. Oklahoma Senator Tom Coburn has declared Obama “perilously close” to meeting the constitutional standards required for an impeachment trial. Texas Representative Blake Farenthold has said the House GOP probably has the votes to do it.
So it's not like Palin is the first to bring it up.  Republican Talk Show Hosts have written books on it: Impeachable Offenses: The Case for Removing Barack Obama From Office.

But then how valid their arguments for this case, is yet another question entirely.

A copy of the book released to TIME shows that the arguments for impeaching Obama appear to fall far short of the historical legal threshold. The book claims that one of Obama’s impeachable offenses is signing Obamacare, for example, because the law is “unconstitutional.” This might surprise members of the Supreme Court who affirmed the law’s constitutionality with a 5-to-4 ruling last year.
And who else, including the above,  have brought up the I-Word?  Well...

Sens. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) and Tim Scott (R-S.C.), Reps. Blake Farenthold (R-Tex.), Kerry Bentivolio (R-Mich.), Michael Burgess (R-Tex.) and Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), former congressmen Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.) and  Allen West (R-Fla.), and the South Dakota Republican Party. Not all of these folks called for Obama's impeachment directly, but all of them suggested that it is or should be on the table.
The thing here is that to some extent Kristol is right.  None of these people are in GOP "Leadership" so what they say can be somewhat ignored.  However, Leadership isn't always defined by whether someone has granted you a title, but whether you command a following and an audience - which Palin does.
What none of these folks have, though, is a national following. That's where Palin comes in. She's the first Republican of any significant national stature to make this call. And she's the kind of figure who could potentially recruit others to the cause — people who will want to be heard. Palin surely doesn't carry the kind of weight she once did in the GOP, but she still has a significant tea party following and is highly popular among the conservative base..
Palin is within her very deepest heart, a panderer.  And here, yet again, she is pandering to the GOP Base and Tea Party.  Giving them what they want.  And what they want, since they haven't been able to defeat Obama at the ballot box in 2012, is his head on a pike.

They want blood.

Just like the head of "Moms with Guns" who called for President Obama's Assassination this week

And as the Bloodhounds howl louder, the question is just what will the GOP "Leadership" do about it? Will their doomed attempt to "Sue" the President appease them?

If a significant pro-impeachment portion of the conservative base does materialize — and that's a big "if" — it will put Republican lawmakers in the unenviable position of responding to questions about whether they, too, agree with the idea of impeachment.
Yes, Senator - how do you feel about "Impeachment"?  And let the squirming begin.  In fact, that questioning has already begun as we see with the current head of the House Judiciary Committee - the committee where Impeachments Begin.

Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA), chair of the House Judiciary Committee, on Sunday said the House doesn't have grounds to impeach President Obama.

"We are not working on or drawing up articles of impeachment. The Constitution is very clear as to what constitutes grounds for impeachment of the president of the United States. He has not committed the kind of criminal acts that call for that," Goodlatte said on ABC's "This Week."

But he still threw his support behind House Speaker John Boehner's (R-OH) bill to allow the House to sue Obama for using executive authority to delay the health care law's employer mandate.

"We do believe that the President is not enforcing the law. And there's a wide array of issues, not just immigration, where we believe that," Goodlatte said. "And that's why the speaker, and many of us in the Congress, are getting ready to take legal action to stand up for the people's right, for their elected representatives to be the part of our government that passes laws, not a president with his pen and his cell phone."

Yeah, good luck with that diversion pal.

This should be a good show to see just how much their willing to give their base red meat it will never be able to swallow, especially while the Democrats simultaneous pushing forward their legistation to overturn of the Hobby Lobby decision and getting their base out to the polls this November 2014.

The giant rift between establishment Republicans and the Tea Party is one that already took down Eric Cantor - just how much more damage could it do?

Yes, it should be interesting indeed.


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