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..with nothing new from the "conservative" movement that has been tried, failed, and documented

I can rant about Paul Ryan's "Blame the Poor" - summer poverty tour but what is needed right now are people that know what they're talking about, before this two pronged political assault on working folks gets any more traction.

The basic two pronged agenda of Paul Ryan/GOP/"conservative" movement:

 1) End the New Deal; stealing away with guaranteed social programs, a long time goal of the RWNJ republican pseudo “conservative” movement. End Social Security, turning it into a voucher program = no-guarantee no - COLA coupon; Slash Medicare & Medicaid.
 Allow republican controlled states another sluiceway into the federal treasury to direct tax monies into the pockets of private for profit entities - cronyism- and away from federal departments and agencies

2) “Defunding the left”; Dismantle the democratic infrastructure Dems built in order to fight back and protect against the never ending assault by the RWNJ’s “conservative” movement. Code named: "De-fund the left"

These people know what they're talking about.  

Starting with Joy-Ann Reid of the Reid Report who questions: "Are 'opportunity grant' just double speak?" (video) (I'd embed the video because it is very informative but am unable to with this latest format - sorry about that)

Joy-Ann Reid references Charles M. Blow's recent article that seriously nails the GOP and Ryan; exposing blatant hypocrisy and racist genesis of his ideas, while questioning the wisdom of giving over to states the control of our national social infrastructure - The New Deal - asking "What could possibly go wrong?"

Joy-Ann Reid also points to an excellent article written by Jeff Shear @ the Baltimore Sun back in 1995, long before Paul Ryan took on the GOP's lead role in continuing the many decade old effort to weaken the federal governments ability to tend to and protect the 'general welfare' of its citizens while systematically dismantling the Democratic infrastructure from within called:
GOP Catch Phrase for the '90s: 'Defunding the Left'  by Jeff Shear | April23, 1995

excerpts from Jeff Shear's work:

Prong 2)

"Defunding the Left" is the catch-phrase for the campaign to stop the flow of federal funds to not-for-profit groups that are associated with liberal causes, and it has gained powerful new impetus through the GOP's takeover of the House. In its latest incarnation, the drive aims to disrupt the liberal infrastructure that supports the legacy of the New Deal. It differs from earlier efforts because it is more narrowly targeted and because the GOP controls Congress.
"We will hunt [these liberal groups] down one by one and extinguish their funding sources," Grover G. Norquist
Prong 1)
Privatization and block grants are other potential weapons in the GOP's arsenal. Privatization could be used to cut social advocacy groups out of the money loop by replacing them with for-profit contractors.
Attack on unions and on women - not new:
Among the advocacy groups singled out by conservatives so far: AARP; the AFL-CIO; the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees; the Association of Head Start Grantees; the Child Welfare League; the Children's Defense Fund; Families USA; the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc.; the National Council of La Raza; the National Council of Senior Citizens; and Planned Parenthood Federation of America Inc.
With more on de-funding the left from source watch

Another expert on fiscal matters is Robert Greenstein, founder of CBPP (Center on Budget and Policy Priorities)  with Joy-Ann Reid and Lawrence O’Donnell

Here is a shortened clip:
(short ad – sorry)
Link to full discussion and more stuff too:
Here is Ryan's con:

"..get the public and the private working together. Tha's how we can smooth the transition from assistance to success.."
read: the transistion of federal dollars and authority into the hands of RWNJ state legislatures, governorship's, and out of the control of Dems
"..I would start a pilot program called an 'opportunity grant'. It would consolidate up to eleven federal programs into one stream of funding to participating states."
Re-label the failed/rejected block grant scheme calling it an "opportunity grant"

Bypass the federal government, eliminate social programs starting with republican states in control of revenue - like the 26 states that refused to expand Medicaid, leaving millions of people without health care

"..The idea would be..let states try different way of providing aid and then to test the results. In short more flexibility in exchange for more accountability"
In short, fuck -off pip squeak sorry, let me try that again.

 In short hand over to Red states the ability to slash every program they can get their greedy hands on without having to answer to anyone, especially Democrats or the federal government.

Slip of the tongue or The tell?: "more flexibility in exchange for accountability". Ryan openly admits to holding states unaccountable to the federal government in trade for "flexibility"

Then there's Ryan's tease: the earned income tax credit expansion mirrors what the President has recommended; but the con: pay for it by ripping away the child tax credit for millions of low income families, immigrants and Dreamers

(short ad – sorry)
Link July 24, 2014:

So Ryan wants to start a pilot program. A little teeny weeny experiment that can’t hurt to try right?


Ryan is trying to sneak in what has been rejected time and again – ending the guarantee that social programs provide.  What the GOP can’t eliminate despite decades of trying they will privatize (corporate welfare to cronies); coupons instead of Social Security; End all nutritional assistance programs and ‘block grant’ federal money to the states to hoard as they see fit (the same asshole republicans refusing to expand Medicaid btw) and defund the left in the process.

My under standing after listening to Robert Greenstein and Joy-Ann Reid explain is that the RWNJ controlled states would have free rein to do as they please with the Federal government bypassed.

So even if Ryan's "deep concern" about the cultural "tail spin" in the "inner cities" is for real, there is zero guarantee that the current republicans in control wouldn't continue to do what they have vowed to do in service to their 1%er/corpo "betters"

This has probably been covered here @ Daily Kos by now, but I really appreciate Joy-Ann Reid's take on these issues. She know her stuff and tells it like it is - imo
Also Robert Greenstein of CBPP has many years of expertise on this I wanted to share

Thx for stopping by; and mini rant over  :)

Late update: xaxnar has an excellent write up with more on:

Paul Ryan Poverty Scam Eviscerated

Originally posted to Eric Nelson on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 03:35 PM PDT.

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  •  Paul Ryan... (14+ / 0-)

    ...should eat [REDACTED] and [REDACTED]!

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 04:37:47 PM PDT

  •  When that butthole gets to hell, Ayn Rand (12+ / 0-)

    will welcome him.

    May you live in interesting times--Chinese curse

    by oldcrow on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 05:09:38 PM PDT

  •  GOP incentives, tax cuts and subsidies (8+ / 0-)

    for the poor = bad

    for the rich = good

    That should be the theme for 2014, complete with Ross Perot style charts. Voters need to SEE what the disparity means, not just hear about it.

    Where is the Mark Fiore cartoon showing money being taken from the poor and given to Block Grant Inc, which sends some of that money back to the Republicans in the form of campaign cash? And Republican Governors turning away the money while their own state residents suffer?

    •  And another GOP hypocrisy: (0+ / 0-)

      Accepting monetary assistance from government agencies leads to one's dependency on the state. But accepting assistance with additional strings attached-- requiring the poor to take tutelage from the state and accept jobs on the state's terms-- somehow that does not lead to dependency?  

  •  And, I might add, see just how little .... (9+ / 0-)

    these "entrepreneurs" actually do for their bloated salaries and bonuses. It helps to play golf with the gang at the board of directors, doesn't it?  Or am I being too cynical?


    Plus a larger and larger percent of billionaires inherited their money for just being the son or daughter of a billionaire.

  •  Libertarians 'know' better. About everything. (4+ / 0-)

    The poor need to overthrow their librul slave-masters with their odious shackles of dependency and embrace the absolute freedom of the marketplace!

    "If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite would have to be right."

  •  How do you find out in a nation run by (12+ / 0-)

    Movement Conservatives like Paul Ryan, and Movement Conservative economic policy like trickle down economics, that a widely used bridge built almost a hundred years ago, that has needed to be overhauled from top to bottom if not outright replaced for ages, has finally become a priority?

    When it suddenly and catastrophically collapses and a few dozen innocent people die. Crisis. Disaster. Calamity.

    That's how you find out. When things break and break down. When people get hurt. When people die. When markets crash. When jobs vanish by the millions all at once because of a collapse.

    From roads and bridges, to communities, to the economy of the nation itself.

    Boom! That is your sign. Your earliest warning is that you are in rubble or facing some form of ruin. A Republican early warning system would go off a day after the tornado or flood hits.

    So the reconstruction effort can be properly privatized.

    How do you find out they lied about some scheme to re-engineer a foreign nation into a thinktankers fantasyland?

    When the war is years in and you are on the hook for trillions of dollars and countless lives have been tragically altered or ended forever.

    Don't worry though. Bill Kristol will always be there to tell you to shut the fuck up and listen to the Cheneys, because they always know what they are talking about.

    Vouchers? Privatization? Trickledown tax cuts? Letting industry regulate themselves? Letting college Republicans go into war zones to run a ruined nation's stock markets, or public works departments, or rebuild what you just blew up?

    The only thing in question is the level of the Suck.

    Everything about the ACA that is complicated and allows the Right to gum it up royally can be traced back to its Movement Conservative policy roots. The free market comes first. Even before care.

    It is the most free market friendly regime of all the potential reform ideas proposed. Nothing else will be nearly as free market based. So it must be destroyed.

    Why? Well, that's simple.  

    Because a black Democrat with a funny foreign-sounding name championed and Democrats passed it, along party lines only because the GOP refused to participate in making their own ideas law because Barry Soweto O'MaoBummer would get the credit from word one, so, it's practically communism.

    Right now, the American Right is on a scorched Earth campaign to make it impossible for America to govern itself in any way but by Movement Conservative and Corporate oversight. That is the only legitimate form of governance. If you don't vote for them? You don't deserve to vote freely, as "everyone knows" that poor black people rig elections so rich white people cannot vote in fair elections.

    How can you tell if the election is riddled with fraud?

    The Democrat wins.

    How can you tell if elections are fatally flawed with fraud?

    The Democrat wins twice.

    You don't deal with it until it breaks down, and then you blame the disaster on those who were trying to fund the highways, repair roads and bridges, expand education opportunities, raise the minimum wage and counter income inequality to revive the American middle class.

    This is why I argue that Movement Conservatism, from the Tea Party to the Rove/Atwaterites to the Koch Brothers, should be treated like a dangerous threat to America's national security.

    The whole idea of sending National Guard troops to the Texas border is that the loudest and angriest part of the base of the Republican Party wants to see bloodshed because bloodshed is the ultimate 'No Trespassing' sign. A dozen people gunned down in a river with their clothes held up on the tops of their heads, or while scrambling or climbing up a sharp-angled cement embankment as the ultimate cold-blooded deterrent to border crossings.

    Paul Ryan doesn't give a damn about the poor. He doesn't even give enough of a damn about math to learn to do basic math, let alone truly understand established and novel public policy regimes. You repeal ObamaCare, but you keep the saving and cost reductions on the books for years after it ceases to hypothetically exist. Paul Ryan would propose killing off every cow in America, and then argue that beef would be twice as available as it is now, and ice cream, cheese, and milk sales would be increasing by double digits every year for the next twenty. That's how he rolls.

    He's one Heritage Action weekend seminar away from proposing freeding the homeless to the hungry to solve killing two birds with one stone, and then arguing that those two birds will be laying very valuable eggs for years after they don't exist any longer.

    He gives a damn about gutting the social safety net because the poor have no power but the people who will cut him a big fat check do.

    "Real journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." -George Orwell

    by LeftHandedMan on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 08:10:15 PM PDT

  •  National Socialism = Socialism For Whites Only (4+ / 0-)

    It's true, the Nazis were in a limited sense "socialist."   They were socialist for whites only. Property was confiscated from non-Aryans, while white party members were sure to get jobs.  

    Ryan's idea of case workers would work as a white bureaucracy for white people, in the Nazi model. Ryan isn't smart enough to think this up by himself.  He's just a puppet.

    Men are so necessarily mad, that not to be mad would amount to another form of madness. -Pascal

    by bernardpliers on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 08:18:49 PM PDT

  •  Poor people don't have money (8+ / 0-)

    They have other problems, but practically by definition, if you're poor you are lacking money. However, actually giving money to poor people is considered a bad idea in Conservative circles. In fact they are spouting the idea that money in Those People's hands just harms rather than helps them.

    I suppose there have been people whose lives took a turn for the worse when they had more money, but that can't be true universally, and it is at least as true for rich people as poor people.

    Their idea instead is to just give grants to the states, so they can spend it on the state government's favorite priorities, which very seldom include poor people. That is just perverse.

  •  "Supply-side" economics has been (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Eric Nelson, unfangus, gypsytoo, Rogneid

    discredited, yet we still hear the same old tired arguments that money should go to the wealthy "job creators" rather than to the poor, children and the elderly. Gift boxing a shit sandwich doesn't make it anything other than a shit sandwich in a fancy box.

    "The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

    by Lily O Lady on Fri Jul 25, 2014 at 10:08:56 PM PDT

  •  VOTE!!!!!!! (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Eric Nelson, Rogneid

    These republicans are sneaky, slimy pawns of the devil.......

  •  For more on Ryan's latest Con Job…. (4+ / 0-)
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    unfangus, Eric Nelson, Rogneid, apimomfan2

    I've gathered links to a number of people dissecting Ryan and his scam here.

    One of the best takedowns, IMHO, is the work of Charles P. Pierce on this.

    "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

    by xaxnar on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 04:15:44 AM PDT

  •  More warmed over FAILED GOP ideas with new (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    a2nite, Lily O Lady

    names.......More reason to VOTE in November!

  •  They haven't come up with a new idea since 1899 (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Eric Nelson, drmah

    I voted Tuesday, May 6, 2014 because it is my right, my responsibility and because my parents moved from Alabama to Ohio to vote. Unfortunately, the republicons want to turn Ohio into Alabama.

    by a2nite on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 06:24:02 AM PDT

  •  This isn't even a new idea, this proposal has its (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Lily O Lady, Eric Nelson, apimomfan2

    foundations in the Nixon era Republican thinking that brought us "Block Grants," and the basis of the Reagan Administrations' war on the poor. It's the same old thing dressed up in a nice shiny "GenX" package by Mr. Ryan, the fascist ass!

    "Intelligence is quickness in seeing things as they are..." George Santayana

    by KJG52 on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 07:20:17 AM PDT

  •  Note that the Pubbies just love "privatization" (3+ / 0-)

    of any federal program.  What good is government if a Pubbie can't make money off it?  Right, Pubbies?

  •  I despise this poor-shaming skankbag. (3+ / 0-)

    He even looks like fucking Scrooge, with his sharp, parsimonious features, pointy beak, collapsed lips. K-reist, what a Dickensian caricature.

    "He went to Harvard, not Hogwarts." ~Wanda Sykes
    Teh Twitterz, I'z awn dem.
    Blessinz of teh Ceiling Cat be apwn yu, srsly.

    by OleHippieChick on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 01:25:35 PM PDT

  •  Tough Love (0+ / 0-)

    The right wing does not fear or respect Kos.  They use it as boogeyman to scare their kids but that is it.
    When is the last time you saw Markos on TV, never, that is when.  The few times he tried it he presented poorly and could not deal with the pressure.  I.E., he cannot play in the real world.
    On the other hand Eric Erikson from Red State gets asked to appear often to present the Conservative position.
    Kos is where you come if you want to beat up and steal someone’s lunch money.  And that includes Democrats as well as Republicans.
    And those candidates like Tester and Webb? Where are they now?  Christ, we couldn’t even get the Democratic candidate to defeat an Independent Lieberman.
    Hitler and Lenin with less support took over empires and turned them to their purpose.
    We can’t even keep America democratic (with a small “d”) and free.
    Defeat Paul Ryan in his district otherwise you are just shit to him.

    I am a Liberal. I am not a Progressive. If you are a Progressive you are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

    by LemmyCaution on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 04:42:35 PM PDT

  •  More slop from the "Christian Dominionists" (2+ / 0-)

    that have invaded the political structure in DC.

  •  Ryan is an asshole (1+ / 0-)
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    Don't bother covering him.  He is a clown.

    "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Riane Eisler

    by noofsh on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 06:04:18 AM PDT

  •   they see states as bathtubs, not as laboratories, (1+ / 0-)
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    as in "to shrink it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub".

  •  Remember Paul Ryan is a Lover of Atheist Ayn Rand (1+ / 0-)
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    Eric Nelson

    When Ryan was informed that Rand was an atheist, he responded that he was a follower of the teachings of Jesus Christ to distance himself from his idol Rand who said the only moral obligation a person has is to be as GREEDY and Selfish as humanly possible.

    The Catholic bishops called him on his blatant LIE noting that Ryan's budget was ANTI-Christian because it benefitted the filthy rich and harmed the poor.

    Ryan is a classic pyschopath, a pathological liar, a narcissistic asshole, and a megalomaniac -- he is a wolf in sheep's clothing.  Rethugs have always hated the poor and want them to die off as soon as possible.

    Infrastructure/public works JOBS (now that unemployment is high and interest rates are low) are the best way to help the poor -- we need high speed rail/hyperloop, highway and bridge repair, sewer and water treatment repair, airport and seaport renovation, wind and solar power development, electric car development, etc.  The rethugs haven't and won't tolerate that.

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