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Tag: Palestinians

Obama Walks Back Jerusalem Remarks

Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 01:58:37 PM PDT

Democratic Presidential Nominee Barack Obama "quickly backtracked" from his remarks in a speech to AIPAC that Jerusalem "must remain undivided," a statement that had drawn widespread criticism from Palestinians, the Washington Post reports.

In a interview Thursday with CNN, Obama said:

"Well, obviously, it's going to be up to the parties to negotiate a range of these issues. And Jerusalem will be part of those negotiations," Obama said when asked whether Palestinians had no future claim to the city.

Jewish Voice for Peace welcomed Senator Obama's clarification, noting that his original statement "undermined the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations that Obama promises to promote," adding:

Poll

Senators Obama and McCain should affirm their support for Palestinian rights

82%144 votes
17%30 votes

| 174 votes | Vote | Results

Change Schmange

Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:32:14 AM PDT

Shouldn't really be a diary entry, but I can't see  any discussion elsewhere about Obama's staunch pro-Israeli diatribe. So check out the opening of Goodman's show with a clip from Obama. The rest of the clip on RFK is good too. And Amy is a public good.

http://www.democracynow.org/...

My take is that he is further alienating the Arab and muslim population at the worst time because he doesn't want to risk the political fallout. Now how much change is that? How new is that. Sounds like the same ole same ole to me. I wonder if anyone here has the nerve to speak truth to power? Obama owes his nomination to many of you--perhaps he would listen, if you dared speak.

Kudos to Ralph Nader who did have the nerve to speak.

Perhaps
OUR MOTTO at KOS ought to be:
See no evil!    Hear no evil!   speak no evil!
against our beloved leader.

Obama to Palestinians: Bye bye East Jerusalem

Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 11:18:01 AM PDT

    See AFP via Breitbart, Jerusalem must remain the undivided capital of Israel: Obama,

    US Democratic presumptive nominee Barack Obama said Wednesday that Jerusalem must remain the "undivided" capital of Israel in a speech to a powerful US-Israel lobby group here.
    "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided," Obama told the vast annual policy conference of the American Israel Public Affairs Council (AIPAC). ...

    Hmm.

Poll

Should Obama be saying bye bye to East Jerusalem Palestinians?

73%104 votes
26%38 votes

| 142 votes | Vote | Results

Obama's Speech at AIPAC: A New Concession to the Zionist Lobby?

Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:58:57 AM PDT

Obama gave possibly the most vaunted foreign policy speech today at the AIPAC conference. He's once again reiterating and repeating his committment to Israel' security and well being as well as his belief in the historical bound between the US and the Jewish state. Remarkably, he also promised that Jerusalem will become Israel's undivided capital, something that unheard of from Hillary, Bill Clinton, and even the Bushes. In terms of Iran, Obama promised to use a strong diplomacy and no longer applying the word "unconditional" dialogues with the Mullah's regime. Instead, he would carefully set up a preparation before engaging with it and only when Iran will not become a threat to the state of Israel (it sounds like a conditionality to me).  

Talking With Enemy: Official Israeli - Syria Talks Begin

Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:26:12 AM PDT

Israel and Syria know something that Bush and McCain do not. Enemies, divided by a bitter disagreement, need to negotiate with one another in order to settle their differences. Even James (don’t forget my role in stealing Florida) Baker knows this.

There are official announcements from both capitals today of what has been known about for months: Israel and Syria are having serious negotiations to settle their differences. As I will explain below this is both real and very important.

Oh, So NOW It's About the Palestinians?

Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:06:25 AM PDT

It's remarkable to me how two of history's latest, greatest buffoons—George W. Bush and Osama Bin Laden—after years of lurking in relative obscurity, came to prominence onto the world stage about the same time, just in time to do extraordinary damage.

Both are megalomaniacs, incompetent scions of wealthy families, fundamentalist believers in warped views of G-d and humans, leaders of sheep-like followers, morally and spiritually bankrupt, and shadowy, imperious "leaders" whose personal pissing match ("you dis'spected mah daddy" vs. "damn you li'l bush") has drawn us into the wars a select few are fighting on both sides today (y'know, while they and their children stay out of harm's way...the harm they've created?).

Ted Belman and the anti-Obama Smear Machine

Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:58:59 AM PDT

Right-wing pro-Israel blogger Ted Belman has recently embarrassed himself by joining the stampede of conservative Republicans so desperate to keep Senator Barack Obama out of the White House that they'll say just about anything to scare people out of voting for him.

Make no mistake, Belman and his ilk are scared.  The smear tactics which worked so well against John Kerry in 2004 just don't seem to be working on Obama.  So, what's an ideologue to do?  The answer, apparently, is to take a gaggle of absurd accusations against Obama, combine them into a hastily written hodgepodge of rumor and innuendo, and throw them out into the blogosphere in the hope that "a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes."

Here's what the smear-mongers want you to believe:

Thousands Show Support of Jimmy Carter's Peace Efforts

Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:39:02 AM PDT

UPDATE: the news was carried by the Jerusalem Post.

The right-wing spin machine would have you believe that former President Carter only represented himself when he went to the Middle East, and met with Hamas leaders in efforts to challenge the destructive Bush Administration policy of trying to exclude Hamas from efforts at Israeli-Palestinian peace by imposing a blockade on Palestinian civilians in Gaza.

But it just ain't so.

This week Jewish Voice for Peace and Just Foreign Policy delivered 5,000 signatures on petitions in support of former President Carter's initiative.

Below the fold is the press release Just Foreign Policy sent to news media.

Poll

Jimmy Carter is right. We should engage Hamas in efforts for Israeli-Palestinian peace.

86%96 votes
13%15 votes

| 111 votes | Vote | Results

Celebrate Israel's 60th: End the Suffering of the Palestinians

Thu May 08, 2008 at 11:01:57 AM PDT

Many Jews around the world are celebrating Israel's 60th birthday this week. Mazl tov!

Let us recall this week a wonderful Jewish tradition, shared by other faiths and nations around the world throughout history. Those who have been blessed share their blessings with the less fortunate.

Fans of Yiddish literature will remember the wonderful story "Strike of the Schnorrers," where a Jewish wedding celebration is put in peril because the poor people are on strike - and how could the celebration proceed without a meal for the poor?

So long as Palestinians cannot exercise their right of national self-determination, any celebration of Israel's independence will always be marred.

We know what we have to do. Consistent pressure from the United States can help bring about a two-state solution on the 1967 borders, a solution that has near-universal international support.

Poll

I supported at least one of the three initiatives offered by this diary.

65%19 votes
34%10 votes

| 29 votes | Vote | Results

Kucinich, Hinchey: Secretary Rice Should Press Israel for Real Settlement Freeze

Wed May 07, 2008 at 05:09:14 PM PDT

Many U.S. policies should change to help bring about peace in the Middle East.

But in some cases, existing U.S. policy just needs to be implemented.

Such is the case with respect to U.S. policy towards the expansion of Israeli settlements in the Palestinian West Bank. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has stated:

"Settlement activity should stop - expansion should stop."

Unfortunately, the Israeli government does not appear to believe that Secretary of State Rice is serious. The Israeli government is moving forward with plans to build hundreds of new homes for Israeli settlers in the West Bank, in violation of international law and in violation of pledges that the Israeli government made at the peace conference in Annapolis.

Many Americans would like to change the perception that the U.S. is not serious about opposing Israeli settlement expansion in the West Bank. Thousands of Americans have written to Congress urging action.

Poll

The United States should press its opposition to Israeli settlement expansion in the West Bank more firmly.

88%39 votes
11%5 votes

| 44 votes | Vote | Results

LGF and the progressives who "hate" Israel

Wed May 07, 2008 at 03:14:47 PM PDT

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In case you did not know, it is the 60th anniversary of Israel's formation as a modern nation-state. Charles Johnson at LGF is taking the opportunity to point out how wacky and insane we all are. Instead of you know, engaging in meaningful debate on the MidEast conflict, CJ just treats his political opponents as comic relief. He tends to care little about troublesome facts such as the brutal nature of IDF conduct, the strangulation of Gaza, the colonization of the West Bank, or the demolition of Arab homes.

Continued below...

West Bank settler homes approved, Arab homes demolished

Sat Apr 19, 2008 at 09:56:54 AM PDT

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Three articles illustrate the problems with the so-called "peace process" between Israel and the Fatah-dominated Palestinian Authority.

The first article is an April 15 report by Rory McCarthy of The Guardian on Israeli demolitions of Palestinian homes in the "Area C" sections of the West Bank:

Area C covers 60% of the West Bank, home to around 70,000 Palestinians. It is also the area in which most Jewish settlements, all illegal under international law, are built. Compelling statistical evidence shows that while it is extremely hard for Palestinians to obtain building permits, settlements continue to grow rapidly.

More below.

Should Jimmy Carter talk to Hamas?

Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 11:23:06 AM PDT

This is not truly a diary, but a simple poll placed in the open thread.  I believe we make peace with enemies, and Jimmy Carter proved the point in Camp David.  

By talking to Hamas President Carter should not be viewed as anti-Israeli, but his actions should be properly considered as helpful to Israel.  The Israelis need to have a dialogue with them, but for obvious reasons cannot make the first step, and a credible interlocutor is needed. Ergo, Jimmy Carter.

Without dialogue, the horrible status quo will remain, peace will remain elusive, and today its in Israel's interest to have a solution, perhaps moreso than the Palestinians.

Israel has no viable partner for peace, absent Hamas.  So where do we start?

Poll

Should Jimmy Carter talk to Hamas?

78%157 votes
21%42 votes

| 199 votes | Vote | Results

Israeli security service refuses to protect Jimmy Carter

Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 11:25:14 AM PDT

As Passover approaches, some of you may hear references to "why is this [ fill in the blank ] different from all other.....? " type questions.  It's a (usually humorous) reference to the 4 Questions asked at Passover Seders.  Tradition has it the youngest child(ren) at the table have to answer them.  It's a way of transmitting the oral tradition.  The 4 Questions actually answer the Big Question: "Why is this night different from all other nights?"  

This brings me to Jimmy Carter and his recent trip to Israel.  Why is this trip different from all other trips?  For starters, the only Israeli official who would meet with him was Shimon Peres.  But the real corker was the Shin Bet, Israel's General Security Service, refused to protect him.   That's a big difference from Bush's recent visit which featured 10,000 police officers deployed across Jerusalem in addition to the usual snipers, etc.

Obama Compromises His Principles

Fri Apr 11, 2008 at 09:06:53 AM PDT

Let me first say that on the conflict between the Palestinians and Israel, Obama has shown more boldness than most pols with presidential aspirations. The possibility that he might bring some sanity and decency to American policy on this issue is a reason I voted for him.

But as the campaign has progressed, he's gotten more timid on the issue. And now he's timid to the point of compromising his principles.

Was there ever a 'Palestine'?

Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 02:25:14 PM PDT

I have seen on Daily Kos many people argue that there was a 'Nakba' on May 14, 1948, whereby innocent Palestinians had to flee from the evil Zionist invaders.  In order to address this notion, it first is necessary to examine whether there ever was a 'Palestine,' where this 'Palestinian ethnicity' came from, and who the Palestinian leadership was in 1948.

How many on Daily Kos are Zionists?

Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 01:30:40 PM PDT

I am a liberal Zionist American and member of the Democratic Party.  The Democratic Party is now being labelled as increasingly unfriendly to Israel.  So I have a question...how many on here are Zionists?  By Zionist I mean simply someone who believes in a Jewish State in Israel, according to any boundaries.

EDIT: I mean an Israel according to UN 1947 boundaries, 1948 boundaries, some form of boundaries being discussed in Annapolis, or a Jewish state according to present boundaries.

So in short, I am asking whether you believe in a Jewish state of Israel, be it on land smaller than what Israel occupies now, or not.

Poll

Are you a Zionist?

61%177 votes
28%84 votes
10%29 votes

| 290 votes | Vote | Results

Mr. Moderate Palestinian Leader, Meet Mr. Easter Bunny

Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 12:08:48 AM PDT

Every Thursday night, my home hosts a weekly poker game. The Easter Bunny, my pet unicorn, and moderate Palestinian leaders play a hearty card game.

For those who want the politically correct sanitized column about poor innocent suffering Palestinians, you have the wrong column.

For those who want to see the picture I refer to, go to www.blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com


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