Obama should leave; can't win on "pledged delegates", alone.

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Friday March 14, 2008 · 12:29 AM PDT

2008/03/14 · 00:29

Why do Obama and obamacons get to say that 20% of the delegates can't vote? The rules say that superdelegates can vote their choice, but you want it over before the vote and, oh yes, take the vote away from nearly a thousand delegates. If we are going to change the rules for you, let's give Hillary her wins in Fla and Michigan.

Let's take the Texas delegate "win" away from Obama since Hillary beat him. When the people properly voted, they gave it to her by 100,000 votes, 51-47% If the caucus "tells the will of the people" then the people who voted in the day time would have given the majority to Obama by 400,000 votes, given his caucus percentages. Didn't happen because when more Democrates vote, he gets less than the 65% he sometimes gets in caucuses.

Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, Michigan,(2 we barely lost and 2 we barely won last election) all have to get the chance to vote for a candidate they like or they vote Republican. Reagan,Reagan, Bush, Bush Bush. for instance, all Republicans who won with Democratic votes. There were not enough Republicans to give them close to a win without rank and file Democrats who were dissatisfied with the nominee the primary voters chose.

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120 votes Show Results

I want to end it before the vote is counted because

I am afraid he will lose

I am afraid he wil reveal some big flaw

I am afraid his inecperience will become a problem

I am worried that he is too thin-skinned.

I am worried that he will cry "racist" once too often

I am worried that women will rebel against the way we treat Hillary

I am bored with the election and want it over.

I am worried that the Obama-Hillary conflict will get more violent

I am worried that some African Americans will start liking the Clintons again

I am afraid Obama will want to start a third party. Why not;we've got the money and organization.

I am afraid that all of these"overly sensitive" reactions are devisive.

I am afraid Obama is not tought enough to give the people confidence in him as CiC

I am worried about the aggressive intensity and lack of restrain of some Obama supporters

I am worried about the integrity and legitimacy of the caucuses.

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120 votes Vote Now!

I want to end it before the vote is counted because

I am afraid he will lose

5 votes

I am afraid he wil reveal some big flaw

1 vote

I am afraid his inecperience will become a problem

0 votes

I am worried that he is too thin-skinned.

0 votes

I am worried that he will cry "racist" once too often

6 votes

I am worried that women will rebel against the way we treat Hillary

2 votes

I am bored with the election and want it over.

5 votes

I am worried that the Obama-Hillary conflict will get more violent

16 votes

I am worried that some African Americans will start liking the Clintons again

0 votes

I am afraid Obama will want to start a third party. Why not;we've got the money and organization.

1 vote

I am afraid that all of these"overly sensitive" reactions are devisive.

1 vote

I am afraid Obama is not tought enough to give the people confidence in him as CiC

0 votes

I am worried about the aggressive intensity and lack of restrain of some Obama supporters

1 vote

I am worried about the integrity and legitimacy of the caucuses.

1 vote

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81 votes

Dear CNN: Don't Stop the Primaries; Don't Push Hillary to Quit

itsadryheat

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Monday March 03, 2008 · 5:53 PM PST

2008/03/03 · 17:53

Obama people are trying to get the media to pressure delegates to push Clinton to drop out tomorrow. Please don't fall for it.

There are one third of the primaries left. Obama has made much about Hillary staffers referring to 'important' states and he has gotton lots of applause lines on it. But 18 remaining states are not important?

Over 966 pledged delegates yet to be chosen.Hundreds more of superdelegates are uncommitteed. And Michigan and Florida may run new primaries with millions more voters, thereby raising the required-to-win delegate level to 2,2208. Or they may be seated by the convention credentials committee, according to the rules, in a decision to honor the previous vote.

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88 votes Show Results

I want all the votes to be counted because:

I believe all states are "important"

I believe all voters count

I want a chance to get to know Obama

I want to see if McCain is still the candidate in August

I want my delegate to have five months to see what happens

I want time to reform my bad behavior and make ammends

I want people to get to know the real Hillary and hate her as I do

I want Obama to have time to speak to 200,000,000 more voters in arenas

I want the Rezko trial over and Obama clean of it before the vote

I want Obama to get some experience before he has to face McCain alone

I want the diarist to take this diary to a web site that wants to see it.

I don't want Hillary to quit because she might eventually get the votes.

I want the press to vet the candidates with actual journalism

I want the press to earn its' constitutional protections and inform the electorate

I want pie

88 votes Vote Now!

I want all the votes to be counted because:

I believe all states are "important"

7 votes

I believe all voters count

4 votes

I want a chance to get to know Obama

2 votes

I want to see if McCain is still the candidate in August

0 votes

I want my delegate to have five months to see what happens

0 votes

I want time to reform my bad behavior and make ammends

0 votes

I want people to get to know the real Hillary and hate her as I do

15 votes

I want Obama to have time to speak to 200,000,000 more voters in arenas

3 votes

I want the Rezko trial over and Obama clean of it before the vote

0 votes

I want Obama to get some experience before he has to face McCain alone

1 vote

I want the diarist to take this diary to a web site that wants to see it.

15 votes

I don't want Hillary to quit because she might eventually get the votes.

4 votes

I want the press to vet the candidates with actual journalism

7 votes

I want the press to earn its' constitutional protections and inform the electorate

3 votes

I want pie

27 votes

Hillary fought against NAFTA! Edwards folks, take note.

itsadryheat

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Thursday February 14, 2008 · 10:32 PM PST

2008/02/14 · 22:32

John and Elizabeth Edwards ran a valiant campaign to bring Democrats and others in close touch with the scandal that is poverty in this rich country.

They advocated admirably for us all to go back to New Orleans and start to break the deadlock and right the wrongs that have been visited on the working families and the poor there. They travelled the country to bring the stories of the mill workers and steel workers and thousands of others who lost lifetime jobs when the manufacturing sector took on foreign addresses. And they talked about the evils of NAFTA for the people in other countries. (Hillary shares the Edwards' concern and has made several major proposals to continue to address their efforts. more later)

Now that the Edwards campaign has been suspended, Senator Obama has begun to speak about NAFTA. He has his eye on primaries in states that have been especially hard hit, where many displaced workers support Senator Edwards or Senator Clinton. His material and surrogates are giving voters the impression that Hillary is responsible for NAFTA because Bill came to support it.

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