Coronavirus conspiracy theories abound

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Thursday February 27, 2020 · 6:09 AM PST

2020/02/27 · 06:09

Wing nuts, conspiracy theorists and ammosexuals are jumping all over the Coronavirus crisis and making hay. Even though all the BS and conspiracy theories have been debunked social media is full of them and of course Facebook and Twitter allow anyone to lie about anything.

I know wingnuts that have been hoping for societal collapse since Y2K. They all think they will then be the alpha male of a new society. Idiots. They won't last a week.

OK lets put the conspiracy theories to rest so we can actually prepare and so that actual work can be done on a vaccine.
Facts not propaganda.

Coronaviruses are a group of viruses that tend to cause respiratory illnesses in humans and a variety of other illnesses in animals, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention explains on its website. The name comes from the crown, or corona-like appearance of infective viruses when seen under a microscope.

One patent is for a genetic sequence of the virus that causes SARS, or severe acute respiratory syndrome, a disease that spread to dozens of countries in 2003, sickening more than 8,000 people and killing 774.

“The sequencing was done at the CDC during the SARS outbreak and they were the ones that filed the patent,” Matthew Frieman, a coronavirus researcher at the University of Maryland, explained in an email.

The CDC told the Associated Press in 2003 that the agency was claiming ownership to ensure access, and to prevent others from controlling the technology. In a phone interview, Columbia law professor Harold Edgar told us that following a U.S. Supreme Court case decided in 2013, U.S. patent law no longer allows for patents on viral sequences as they exist in nature.

The other supposedly related patent is for a mutated form of avian infectious bronchitis virus, or IBV, which infects poultry, but not people. The patent was filed by the Pirbright Institute, a research institute in the U.K. whose mission is to prevent and control “viral diseases of livestock.” The mutations were created to attenuate, or weaken, the virus, so that it could be used as a vaccine to protect chickens from the disease.

As with all conspiracy theories, it is important to fight back with facts. You will not change the mind of those spreading them, but you might influence the lurkers and listeners to do their own research. Finding the facts takes works, lies are easy.

My mantras when I am on the internet.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts.

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

Fox News censorship

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Thursday June 27, 2019 · 7:23 AM PDT

2019/06/27 · 07:23

I follow the EVC forum
www.evcforum.net/…
It was started as a place for supporters of science to discuss issues with creationists. Through the years the creos have dwindled to a handful of whackos and nutjobs. The site attracts some of the most interesting and in depth conversation on science and politics. There are some world class scientists that participate there.
The admin just posted about an experience he had at Fox News dot com.

He posted a reply to a comment at Fox. Seemingly it was quite innocuous, but they deleted his comment and any other comments he made following that. I remember being censored by them a few years back, but assumed it was situation normal for a propaganda organization. It would be interesting to figure out how much they are censoring posts.

Here is text of Percy’s comment and a link to his post.

I occasionally comment on articles over at Fox News where I'm Percy00. Apparently if they don't like what you say they delete it. My comment on Sen. Graham: Nancy Pelosi is 'biggest loser' now that Mueller will testify was deleted, even though it got 4 likes. It was rather mild, and even though I did quote the Mueller report saying they couldn't exonerate President Trump I don't understand why they deleted it.

The replies to my comment are still there, just unanchored messages with no context. If you click on the above link it will take you straight to my deleted message and you can see the replies. Weird.

Even more weird is that I keep replying to the guy who replied about collusion, and that keeps getting "disappeared" with no indication it was ever there. I seem to have caught someone's attention at Fox News. All I said was:

"Besides, what evidence do you have of this collusion?"

I wasn't originally going to reply, but the original message has been deleted, so I'll just comment that my comment was about obstruction, not collusion, which isn't mentioned in the Mueller report anyway.

Strangely, this is the third time I've posted this to you, but it keeps disappearing, don't know why. Hope you get a chance to see this.

I've never had a comment deleted at the Washington Post or the New York Times.

AbE: That reply got disappeared again, so I just put it back again. I wonder how long this will go on?

--Percy

www.evcforum.net/...

A general strike by workers the answer?

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Wednesday January 23, 2019 · 9:15 AM PST

2019/01/23 · 09:15

Angry protesters — Strike by the people.

www.afacwa.org/…
The flight attendants union is calling for a transportation industry general strike.
This is what we may need to do. A general strike by all workers. The only way get the government to reopen is for the people of this country to respond to the 3rd world antics of our president with a strike of the people.

This needs to be more than just the airline industry. They will have a devastating effect, but we need the people to show solidarity with the airline workers, the 800,000 government employees and family members, and the government contract workers.

Now is the time.

I implore you all to reach out to your unions, your local political orgs, your families and push for an organized general strike by the people. We need to show the administration, the parties and the donor class who has the true power in our country. It is us, the people. Not the well connected, not the extremely wealthy, but us, the people.

When the strike happens, I will find a picket line to walk and support. I ask you all to do the same.

Punishing Obama?

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Friday July 20, 2018 · 6:36 AM PDT

2018/07/20 · 06:36

A friend sent me this article. I am known as a fact checker and debunker extraordinaire. I need some help with this one. Does anyone know of a confirming source? Also, if this is true is it normal procedure? I would think withholding resources from a former President might be a little newsworthy.

citizen.co.za/...

Walker losing the business people

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Tuesday June 09, 2015 · 9:31 AM PDT

2015/06/09 · 09:31

Scott Walker was never for the small business person or even the medium size business person. Those people are finally figuring it out. Walker is beholden to his billionaires and the multi national corporations. After you cut the fat you start cutting muscle and bone. Walker and the Republican legislature are now cutting away healthy bone and muscle from the state in order to appease the billionaire class. Here is a great look at the comparison between Minnesota and Wisconsin and more particularly, Superior, WI and Duluth, MN. The cities share a harbor but lately, seemingly little else.
http://www.superiortelegram.com/...
Some choice bits beneath the fold.

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Thursday March 26, 2015 · 7:22 AM PDT

2015/03/26 · 07:22

With the Supreme Court refusing to take the case challenging Wisconsin voter photo ID, it is time for progressives to move on. The Democratic Party establishment is raking in cash right now. We need to pressure them into using that money effectively. What is needed? Do we need expensive, connected consultants? Do we need multi-million dollar ad campaigns? Not now. We need to get people registered to vote and we need to get people photo Id's. We need a get the ID campaign.

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Tuesday September 02, 2014 · 7:52 PM PDT

2014/09/02 · 19:52

The latest from the rightwing noise machine is a supposed photo of Darren Wilson in a hospital be with gruesome injuries.

This photo seems to be making the rightwing Facebook hate circuit.
Not sure how to link to it. But here is the url

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/...

"This is Ferguson police officer BEFORE he shot Mike Brown. Please pass this around over and over. Think Sharpton and MSNBC will show this? That means TPC will have to...start passing folks"

Not sure what TPC is.
But of course this is all lies. Below the fold I show you the real source of this picture

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Thursday February 21, 2013 · 10:41 AM PST

2013/02/21 · 10:41

Yesterday my mother-in-law received a notice when she tried to login to her email account that it was blocked due to suspicious activity and she needed to verify that she was truly who she says she is. There was an online form. One of the questions was a standard security question that she thinks she knew the answer to. Next she had to give them 3 people she had recently sent emails to and what the subjects were. Like she said how is she supposed to know that if she cannot see her email. Also, a hacker could know that info too. All of her contacts are saved she has no idea what their email addresses are. Also she checks it once a week.

We attempted to give them the information and submitted the form. their response was it was not enough and to resubmit with more info. Sounds like she isn't the only person in this hell.

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Wednesday March 03, 2010 · 9:08 AM PST

2010/03/03 · 09:08

Those on the right make a huge issue about gun rights. There is a lot of obsessing about how the left wants to take a away all guns and establish some sort dictatorship(solely to take way guns it seems)

The hypocrisy of this line of thinking from the right is astounding to say the least. They will fight to the death for gun rights, but most any other civil right is up for grabs.

Let me give you some info on me so I am not accused of being an anti-gun fanatic

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Monday March 01, 2010 · 8:40 AM PST

2010/03/01 · 08:40

It may just be the type of wingnut I know, but the last few emails have had very interesting links on the bottom.

http://www.goldnuggetinvest.com (Visit)
http://www.geniusfunds.com/
http;//arbsfund.com/

These are all HYIP's(High Yield Investment Programs) in other words Ponzi schemes. These places are "guaranteeing" 20% monthly returns. Now I am no investment guru, but that screams fraud. BTW all of the urls had ref's attached to them so the person that directed you to the site could get a commission. I removed them so there is no chance that person can make money off of this post.

If you take time to do actual research you will see they are clearly illegal, clearly ponzi schemes. There is little about them on the web, I think part of it may be that when these disappear it is usually the little guy that gets burned.

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Saturday February 27, 2010 · 1:19 PM PST

2010/02/27 · 13:19

I received an email that my nephew has been forwarding. The whole premise of the email is a lie and it is full of right wing slander and propaganda. The premise is that Lee Iacocca has come out with a harsh condemnation of President Obama. The most perverse part of the email is that a lot of it is taken from Lee Iacocca's book Where Have All The Leaders Gone?, which is highly critical of the George Bush presidency, neoconservatives and the conservative movement in general.

My response to my nephew and those that received the email from him.

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Friday July 17, 2009 · 11:49 PM PDT

2009/07/17 · 23:49

I learned today why people are against healthcare reform. I spent a couple hours in a bar with a dentist and some professional wannabe's. The idea I got from them is that they don't want anyone to get health care for less than what they pay. I tried to bring up arguments that total health care expenses would go down but all they cared about was what the people that currently do not have health care would have to pay for health care.

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