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Do you have a favorite day in history?
Some sources attribute it to the acuity of one lone woman who late at night (while filling water jugs) caught the Spaniards trying to sneak out of town with their stolen gold. Her cries raised the entire city against them.
There are certain events in history I tend to ruminate on when I'm laying in bed having trouble sleeping (I've never used sleeping pills). There's nothing like falling asleep while meditating over a reality that is different than the one you've known during the day. The events of that rainy night are one of them.
La Noche Triste ("The Night of Sorrows") on June 30, 1520, was an important event during the Spanish conquest of Mexico, wherein Hernán Cortés and his army of Spanish conquistadors and native allies fought their way out of the Mexican capital at Tenochtitlan following the death of the Aztec king Moctezuma II, whom the Spaniards had been holding as a hostage. The event is so-named on account of the sorrow that Cortés and his surviving followers felt and expressed at the loss of life and treasure incurred in the escape from Tenochtitlan.
The fighting was ferocious. As the Spaniards and their native allies reached the causeway, hundreds of canoes appeared in the waters alongside to harry them. The Spaniards fought their way across the causeway in the rain, sometimes using the portable bridge to cover the gaps, although as the battle progressed some gaps had become so filled with wreckage and bodies that the fugitives were able to walk across. Weighed down by gold and equipment, some of the soldiers lost their footing, fell into the lake, and drowned.That night in the rain, the Aztecs had gotten the better of the Spaniards. Many Spaniards and allies, along with the gold they were still clutching, were dispatched to the bottom of the lake. However, the prize they most needed to sieze eluded them.
Cortés, Alvarado and the strongest and most skilled of the men had managed to fight their way out of Tenochtitlan, although they were all bloodied and exhausted. Cortés himself had been injured in the fighting. All of the artillery had been lost, as had most of the horses.Led by Cuitláhuac (successor to the killed Moctezuma II), this was the apogee of Aztec resistance to Spanish conquest. Never before had they come so close to thwarting Cortés, and never again would they. It could've turned out that Cortés was one of those on the lake bottom entombed with his gold and armor. None of his captains likely could've taken his place in the complex web of alliances that allowed him eventual victory over the Aztecs.
Time would've played on their side.
While there was dissatisfaction among allied and tributary states towards harsher elements of Aztec dominance, those dissatisfactions were as nothing compared to what Spanish rule would bring. With time, and with more former allies of the Aztecs waking up to the reality of total conquest, the Aztecs could've redefined their relationship with other tribes and forged a real alliance of interest.
Against such a united indigenous front, Spanish colonial expeditions would've quickly been dumped back into the sea from whence they came (even with indigenous communities decreased via disease by as much as 90%). Without the gold and silver from the New World, Spain would've been much less capable of mounting significant expeditions of conquest.
The Aztecs, according to their own myths, arrived in the Valley of Mexico originally as relatively poor nomads compared to the ancient settled civilizations they found there. They quickly learned from those civillizations, and adopted the tools and knowledge they deemed worthwhile. They would've done the same in resisting the Spanish onslaught given time. And all that might've been from one woman.
It takes a village to raise a child, but sometimes one woman with a sharp eye is all it takes to raise a city.
Anyways, I like to think about it sometimes late at night.
What about you?
Do you have any day in history you often find yourself thinking of?
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NEW GROUPS IN THE PROCESS OF ORGANIZING:These are the groups that have started since * NEW DAY * began. Please Kosmail navajo if you have started a group before that.
Send a Kosmail to the organizers and ask for an invitation to the group.• Northern Indiana Area: Kosmail Tim Delaney
• Long Island: Kosmail grannycarol
• Northern Michigan: Kosmail JillS
• Nebraska: Kosmail Nebraska68847Dem
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• West Texas Kossacks (including Big Bend Region and El Paso) : Kosmail Yo BubbaNote to the above new leaders: Feel free to leave a comment any day reminding readers about your new group. Also, tell us about your progress in gathering members. Kosmail me when you've chosen a good name for your group and have created a the group. Then I'll move you to the NEW GROUPS LIST. When you've planned a date for your first event I'll make a banner for you to highlight your event in our diaries and your diaries.
NEW GROUPS LIST:
• Kansas City Kossacks - Formed Oct 15, 2012, Organizer: [Founder stepped down]
ESTABLISHED GROUPS LIST: (List will grow as we discover them)
Saturday, September 21st
Los Angeles Kossacks Meet-up
TIME: 2:00 PM
LOCATION: The Federal Bar
5303 Lankershim Boulevard • North Hollywood
(One block from North Hollywood Red Line Station)
ORGANIZER: Send Dave in Northridge a kosmail to attend.
Latest diary: LA Kossacks: Meetup: September 21, 2:00 PM, North Hollywood, The Federal
1. Dave in Northridge
7. Joe Bacon
9. Gay CA Democrat
11. joe markowitz
DeKalb, Illinois KossacksSaturday, September 21st
DeKalb, Illinois Kossacks Dinner & a Show!
TIME: 5:30 PM
LOCATION: Rosita's Mexican Restaurant
642 East Lincoln Highway • DeKalb
TIME: 7:30 PM
LOCATION: The Stage Coach Players Theater
126 South 5th Street (2 blks. from dinner) • DeKalb
ORGANIZER: Send NormAl1792 a kosmail to attend.
Latest diary: Northern IL Kossacks Dinner and a Show This Saturday
1. NormAl1792 (on stage as Henry II)
4. Mr. luvs
6. Amber6541's sister
7. 1864 House
8. 1864 House's husband
Farm Day for Oregon Kossacks! Baby Goat and Goat Cheese Edition
TIME: Anytime, all day!
LOCATION: Oregon Gal's farm
Address given privately • Alsea, Oregon
ORGANIZER: Send Oregon Gal a kosmail to attend.
Latest diary: Oregon Kossacks: FARM DAY! (with baby goats)
1. Oregon Gal
2. Sara R
4. Horace Boothroyd III
5. Blue Jessamine
Saturday, September 28th
Indianapolis Kossacks First Ever Meet-up
TIME: 2:00 PM
LOCATION: Shapiro's Deli
808 S Meridian • Downtown Indianapolis
ORGANIZER: Send CityLightsLover a kosmail to attend.
Latest diary: [Waiting for linked diary]
4. Alexandra Lynch
Saturday, October 19th
DKos Asheville Kossacks Meet-up
TIME: 1:00 PM
LOCATION: The Bywater
796 Riverside Dr. • Asheville
ORGANIZER: Send randallt a kosmail to attend.
Latest diary: DKos Asheville - Weekly Open Thread
7. Sandy on Signal
8. Mr Sandy on Signal
11. Mr Alecia
14. Otteray Scribe
15. Burns Lass
people power granny
One Pissed Off Liberal
Christian Dem in NC
Phil S 33
Sunday, October 20th
MEGA Philly/NJ/NYC Kossacks Meet-up!
LOCATION: Stuff Yer Face
49 Easton Avenue • New Brunswick, NJ
ORGANIZER: Send mconvente a kosmail to attend.
Latest diary: Philly/NJ/NYC Mega Meetup! Initial Information & Interest Diary
2. belinda ridgewood
11. blue jersey mom
aravir and son
Friday, October 25th
LAKossacks & SoCal Inland Empire See Lewis Black!
TIME: 9:00 PM
LOCATION: Agua Caliente Casino Resort & Spa
32-250 Bob Hope Dr. • Rancho Mirage
ORGANIZER: Send 714day a kosmail to attend.
Latest diary: L.A. Kossacks, Lewis Black Fans in So Cal
Friday, October 25th
Meet the Daily Kos Editorial Staff!
TIME: 6:00 PM
LOCATION: Daily Kos HQ
Address given privately to RSVP'ers • Berkeley
ORGANIZER: Send navajo a kosmail to attend.
You will need to bring Potluck.
HQ will be providing the main course like before. Please sign up for a beverages or side dishes below.
- POTLUCK SIGNUP BELOW -
16 six-packs of beer [3 down, 13 to go]
20 bottles of wine [5 down, 15 to go]
4 packs Bottles of water
4 packs Soft Drinks
I'll be bringing my large ice chest with ice, as before.
Anything goes here. Whatcha' got? [3 down]
6 green salads needed, each to feed 10 [4 down, 2 to go]
6 desserts, a dozen hand-held desserts each [4 down, 2 to go]
2. Susan Gardner
3. Meteor Blades
4. Joan McCarter
6. Faith Gardner
7. Will Rockafellow
8. Jen Hayden
9. Paul Hogarth
10. Chris Bowers
11. Rachel Colyer
12. Michael Langenmayr
14. Lusty + dessert
15. side pocket + two 6pks beer + 2 wines + stuffed mushrooms appetizer
18. citisven + beer + beet dip
19. norm + pumpkin bars
20. Lorikeet + big bowl of fruit
21. kimoconnor + appetizer
22. remembrance and TLO? + 1 wine
23. Glen the Plumber + Pasta Mystery Dish
25. dharmasyd + brownies
26. ceebee7 + green salad
28. Dave in Northridge + 2 bottles of wine
30. LinSea + bottled water
35. justiceputnam + grilled balsamic veggies
37. exlrrp +souvenirs ;) !
38. shanikka + salad
41. jpmassar + dessert
Saturday, October 26th
New England Kossacks Meet-up
TIME: 10:30 AM
40 Washington Avenue • Portland, ME
ORGANIZER: Send nhox42 a kosmail to attend.
Latest diary: C+J Kossack Fall Meetup
SFKossacks BBQ in the Wine Country
LOCATION: Andrew McGuire's home in the Wine Country
Address to be given privately to RSVPs • Windsor
1. Andrew McGuire
6. Hunter/elfling offspring
14. Mr. dksbook
17. side pocket
18. Mrs. side pocket
20. ceebee7's sister
21. leema (will carpool from Marin)
22. Meteor Blades
Glen The Plumber
Send navajo a kosmail if you post a diary about an event so we can update our round-up.
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