Obama team chose to block viewing of gay bishop Gene Robinson?

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Monday January 19, 2009 · 7:02 AM PST

2009/01/19 · 07:02

I just don't think this bodes well for gays under an Obama administration.

First they choose a pastor who views us as sub-human.
Then, only in response to overwhelming anger, they choose a gay bishop, Gene Robinson.

But! They say it had nothing to do with Rick Warren, and they wouldn't want people thinking there was a problem with a bigot like Warren.

And then? When Robinson is giving his address, the Obama team directed his slot to be unaired. Completely unaired.

I want to hope.

But sometimes hoping makes you end up a fool.

I have to ask this: Who's the bigot?

HadIt

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Thursday December 18, 2008 · 6:56 AM PST

2008/12/18 · 06:56

This is tricky to write.

Because I don't want to believe it. I don't even think it's true.

But... here's the basic premise - and forgive me for it, because - no surprise - I'm upset:

Rick Warren is an avowed bigot - he views my life and rights (ie, I'm gay, so I'm exactly like a rapist or a pedophile) as less then his or other Americans.

Barack Obama SPECIFICALLY chose Rick Warren to give the invocation to his inauguration. It was not a committee, it was not someone else. It was specifically President-elect Obama's choice.

Now, this is most likely the typical triangulation bullshit that all politicians do.

But... the question is fair to ask (because we would as ask, and HAVE asked this of many others, usually Republicans):

By giving such a high pulpit to an avowed bigot, does President-elect Obama agree with Warren's bigoted views?

In short (and I know the stones will be flying... It's ok if so, I understand this will piss people off):

Is President-elect Obama a bigot regarding gay people?

I am 99.999% sure the answer is no.

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Was Obama's choice of Rick Warren...

154 votes Vote Now!

Was Obama's choice of Rick Warren...

a sign of personal bigotry against gay people

21 votes

a political triangulation move

58 votes

a badly thought out choice

51 votes

an inspired move

17 votes

...what's the problem? Warren is great and gays ARE lesser people than everyone else.

7 votes

They're not racists,you're not misogynists,you were all awful.

HadIt

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Saturday November 22, 2008 · 7:19 AM PST

2008/11/22 · 07:19

Enough.

It's amazing how you're all reliving the primaries.

I'll just say this, and you will all - to the last - disagree. And yet it's truth.

Those who supported Clinton during the primaries WERE NOT RACISTS.

Those who supported Obama during the primaries WERE NOT MISOGYNISTS.

Keep piling in saying, "nuh uh, Jerome Armstrong is a RACIST!!!" (pore through the comments just yesterday)

Go ahead.

But you're spouting bullshit, pure and simple.

However, as one who thought both Democratic candidates had adequate points and crappy problems, I thought you were ALL AWFUL.

Just atrocious.

Many of you (on both sides) have recovered your rationality and sanity.

And with good reason.

We won.

We all won.

But some... are stuck in a perpetual loop.

HadIt

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Tuesday November 18, 2008 · 5:15 AM PST

2008/11/18 · 05:15

Man, I thought the PUMA's were off-the-wall.

Sorry, but to those that are furious, incensed, or outraged at the mere possibility of Clinton as Secretary of State, all I can think is: hypocrites.

How many of the loopy PUMA's did you all tell to "get over it"?

A lot, right?

And I agreed, 100%, for what it's worth.

(Many won't believe that, natch. They only see someone not hating the word "Clinton" as a mortal enemy, so clearly I must secretly want a Clinton takeover of the government. But that's your dementia, not mine.)

Now, at the very thought of President Obama appointing Clinton as SOS - a job where if she was offered it, she would have to do everything at the direct discretion of the President or she'd be out on her butt - you all FREAK OUT ZOMG!!!!!!

So... if she doesn't get offered or take the job, then you all can go back to nursing your ancient angers. No harm, no foul, except to your better nature.

But, if Armageddon happens and the President-elect offers her the job, and she accepts...

You'll all have to get over it, and fast.

It's President Obama's decision. Like it or not.

She'd also be his employee. You gotta like that, at least, no?

Is Scott Eckern a bigot that doesn't realize his bigotry?

HadIt

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Wednesday November 12, 2008 · 7:38 AM PST

2008/11/12 · 07:38

A few days back I wrote a diary stating that, in my opinion, people who supported Proposition 8 in CA, which strips gays and lesbians of the rights all others share, were bigots.

While I stand by that assertion, some in the comments suggested that some supporters were merely suffering from ignorance that was fed by the lies coming from those that despise anyone who is gay (Mormons, Catholics, generally angry people, etc). Thus, bigotry is not fair.

I kinda sorta agree on that point, in certain cases.

But what to make of Scott Eckern?

He's the artistic director of the "California Musical Theatre" and evidently works with many, many gay and lesbian people for at least 25 years.

He also donated to Yes on 8.

Is he a bigot and should he be called out for his bigotry?

In his case, I say yes, and there is no wiggle room of ignorance. He knows exactly what he's doing.

HadIt

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Saturday November 08, 2008 · 11:53 AM PST

2008/11/08 · 11:53

No no no, this is not about what groups voted for or against prop 8 in CA, which stripped gay and lesbian people of a basic civil right. It's totally 100% not about that at all, so, please, no one get upset.

It's about a simpler question stimulated by something I just heard on NPR

It's about the individuals - one by one - who voted to enshrine my status as less-than-human in the CA constitution.

Some guy on Weekend America on NPR tried to say he was all tolerant and stuff.

But then he said no way can gays marry.

But what was said next pissed me off more.

When mentioned that some would then call him a "bigot," he became offended at the name and insisted it wasn't true.

So, is he a bigot?

From M-W online:

one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Lemme see: he says we don't have the right to equal treatment under the law.

I'd vote: yes, he is a big smoking bigot.

Is there any reason he should NOT be called a bigot? Your thoughts?

Maybe I'm missing something and I SHOULDN'T have the same rights as everyone else.

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If someone supported the move to strip gays and lesbians of a basic right, are they a bigot?

225 votes Vote Now!

If someone supported the move to strip gays and lesbians of a basic right, are they a bigot?

Yes

189 votes

36 votes

You like prop 8? You have no soul.

HadIt

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Friday November 07, 2008 · 4:38 AM PST

2008/11/07 · 04:38

(EDIT: Changed beginning to make it CLEAR I am not attacking the reader - unless of course you fill the "you" role I put at the bottom of the post)

Regarding the decision by Californians that I am less human than you...

It's unfortunate that this Rec'd diary is the first recommended diary on the matter I've noticed since Tuesday.

DO NOT get me wrong. That diary is good and probably quite necessary.

Even if - and that is likely untrue - there was really a larger amount of one group that voted me to be subhuman, it has little to do with the GROUP.

Should one "group" be singled out over another for blame? No.

But... should all individuals who feel I and others, who are gay - as God made us (don't argue, it's true) - should be segregated as separate citizens and unequal, should those with such beliefs be viewed with disdain?

Yes. Deep disdain.

Since the diary is that is rec'd is from a different perspective, I'd like to give a small statement from a gay perspective.

Every one who views me as less than human because I am as I was born, to them I start off by saying this:

HadIt

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Thursday November 06, 2008 · 4:01 AM PST

2008/11/06 · 04:01

Man, this kind of diary (the one I'm linking here) really pisses me off. And who the hell is recommending it???

We, as Democrats, should not take the great victories of this week as a license to use deceit as a tool to make progressive points.

Here's the amazing, wonderful headline of the diary:

MASSACHUSETTS VOTES OVERWHELMINGLY FOR SINGLE PAYER 72% to 28%

Now, universal healthcare is absolutely necessary for the US.

But, something bugged me about this diary.

I mean, I was surprised, at first.

Even I thought "ZOMG, why isn't it being covered by the media!!!"

Er... Come to think of it, what evil force actually made the question NOT appear on my ballot in BOSTON?!!!!

It wasn't a very long ballot at all, how could I miss it?

Hmmm... looking at the numbers and tables in the link provided in the diary, I see the answer.

It's because Massachusetts, as a state, did NOT vote on this question AT ALL

HadIt

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Monday September 29, 2008 · 11:23 AM PDT

2008/09/29 · 11:23

Sorry, but this is most definitely not what hope looks like.

A mediocre bill got canned.

A mediocre (at best) plan that would - so economists say - have helped unjam the economic jam we're in.

And a lot of people disliked portions of the bill, others disliked other portions of it. But it's dead now.

And now our economy is tanking - thanks to greedy people on Wall Street, yeah. But it's still tanking.

Dow collapsed 500 pts at the news.

And yeah, it was a crummy bill, made a bit better by Democrats.

But now what do we have?

Nothing.

Oh yeah, a collapse of everyone's retirement and an economy about to permanently seize.

Is this something to shout "YAY" about and call a "WIN!!" when no alternative has been offered??

Since when did Progressives hope for an Adam Smith type calamity to teach us all a good lesson? I thought that was a Conservative talking point.

I'm absolutely confused - not at the vote, but at the reaction.

HadIt

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Friday September 26, 2008 · 8:33 AM PDT

2008/09/26 · 08:33

I searched for a diary about this and didn't see one yet.

I know this is just light fare in the face of the insanity we're all seeing.

But it's funny and damn pertinent... and I've taken the liberty of transcribing the lyrics below the fold.

Julie Brown just updated her song "Homecoming Queen Has Got a Gun".

The new one is: The Ex-Beauty Queen Has Got a Gun.
It's about our favorite Caribou Barbie!

She premiered it on the Stephanie Miller show yesterday.

Take a listen, it's worth it, IMO.

This is straight from the radio show.
Looks like you can buy the song from Julie Brown's site or from iTunes.

My attempt at the lyrics is below.

HadIt

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Tuesday September 16, 2008 · 4:47 PM PDT

2008/09/16 · 16:47

UPDATE with apologies: Free speech zone published a 10min vid of Obama's Golden, CO speech today . I thought the full speech deserved a place of prominence after the past few weeks of asinine fake-ass nothing bullshit. (/Update)

I will take it down if I really fucked it up by reposting content. Sorry again :(

Anyway, here's the full thing, direct from the BarackObamadotcom youtube channel.

Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/...

It's all about - duh - the economy and... ZZZZzzzzzzzzzz... NO!
This is a barn-burner, standing ovation inducing speech.

It's what hope looks like with details.

HadIt

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Tuesday July 08, 2008 · 3:28 AM PDT

2008/07/08 · 03:28

So I was in Provincetown, MA, this weekend. I had a real fun time, as did most there, I suspect. One thing happened, though, that got me a bit bummed.

Now, the 7-8 o'clock hour tends to be rather festive. And, since the crowd at that point is largely gay and gay-friendly, I do mean "festive" for real. People are happy and laughing and generally having a very good time.

During this time, a few friends and I are walking near the center of town, passing by a couple of handsome guys handing out "Vote Obama" stickers.

Now, you can see from my past entries, I've had problems with the excesses taking by some Obama supporters, and by some of the recent swings to the rightward moves, but I'm all in now and happily took a couple of stickers.

As he took a couple of stickers, one of my friends said, and I can quote, "well, he wasn't my choice, but he's the nominee, so sure!" and was hoping to get a sticker or two.

Now, you only have me to tell you this so believe it or don't: This was said in as friendly a way as I could imagine. It was a real reconciliation gesture for him.

Which is why the response from the Obama volunteer was so surprising:

"Well, you can vote for McCain then."

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